Cons vs Libs
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Liberals are more caring for people??? If any group pushed to have all elderly over the age of 90 euthanized, would that group care for people? How is a group that pushes to have almost 1 million people murdered by abortion considered to be the caring group??? To put it like the guy in the video, "When you have to give an answer one day for voting for people who allow babies to be murdered, then have the afterlife you deserve."
Bless your heart. The pro-forced birth faction speaks again. You can’t defend the actions of your tribe so you go straight to the anti-freedom policy. No Libs force or even encourage women to get abortions. They let women choose. Remember women? You will in November.
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Sure...those are the abortions I'm talking about. SMH All 900k abortions in a year are to save the mother's life. I told someone the other day that if I had to choose between a pre-born baby and my wife the choice would be simple, My wife would live. I'd concede all mother in jeopardy and rape victims. Would you concede the abortions for birth control and convenience?
Pro-forced birth. rofl. You are allowing women to kill as a form of birth control. With all of the free and easy to get birth control available, this is inexcusable. You "people people" have trouble letting people dealing with the repercussions of their actions. That's not helping them and it shows by looking at the living and life conditions of the populous responsible for the highest number of abortions. I can defend anything I say easily and have asked you numerous times to do Facebook lives to debate these issues and you've refused all the while you sit safely behind your keyboard spewing idiocies that can't be defended by sound logic and morals. I can't wait until November. Most of the deeply liberal political people are saying it's going to be a red landslide. And that will be credited to you all for putting the biggest joke of an administration in the history of our country in charge...all because the orange man hurt our feeling saying mean things. Even the St. Louis gang people figured out they were better off under Trump's policies.
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It’s good you have a topic that keeps you interested. I’m not a one issue voter. I look at the entire picture. Conservatives are bad.
Corporate Dems are bad. These “LGBT are the most important issue” people are bad.
A huge segment of the country is bad. I weigh the good vs bad and have determined that I can’t stand the Pelosi’s and Schumers but they are wonderful people compared to DeSantis/Trump/Cruz/anyone riding the election fraud train.
Corporate Dems are bad. These “LGBT are the most important issue” people are bad.
A huge segment of the country is bad. I weigh the good vs bad and have determined that I can’t stand the Pelosi’s and Schumers but they are wonderful people compared to DeSantis/Trump/Cruz/anyone riding the election fraud train.
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Wait!! The state of Arizona sold the land and water rights to the Saudis that contains the aquifer for Arizona's emergency water supply??? And the Saudis own the 3 largest oil refineries in Texas?????
The Motiva refinery is an oil refinery located in Port Arthur, Texas. It is the largest oil refinery in North America.
Owner: Saudi Aramco
www.theamericanconservative.com
Owner: Saudi Aramco
Saudi Arabia Controls North America’s Largest Oil Refinery
Ahead of its expected IPO, Kingdom-owned Aramco now has 100 percent stake in this Texas facility.
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Arizona farmers grew Saudi Arabia's agriculture empire. Now, the monarchy has a chunk of the state's water
An Arizona copper miner tried to sell Saudi Arabia's king "American desert farming expertise" in the 1940s. He succeeded. Now, we face the water-driven consequences.
www.12news.com
Greed greed greed.The Motiva refinery is an oil refinery located in Port Arthur, Texas. It is the largest oil refinery in North America.
Owner: Saudi Aramco
Saudi Arabia Controls North America’s Largest Oil Refinery
Ahead of its expected IPO, Kingdom-owned Aramco now has 100 percent stake in this Texas facility.
It's almost like the Saudis want to control all of the energy for some reason.
What could that be?
I'm hardly a one issue voter. I do have a deep conviction that we should protect a sector of our populace from being slaughtered at will that can't protect themselves. Every other age of human beings are protected except those that are (conveniently for those not wanting to take accountability for their actions) "hidden".
Speaking of multiple issues, give me a list of what Trump did to harm our country. I'll give you a list of what I liked about him.
Great economy (obviously better than the worst in history now), we were energy independent for the first time in years (unlike today with gas prices hitting all time highs and driving costs up across the board), great foreign policies, our border was controlled, not allowing thousands of who knows what to flood into our country like now. Trump's National Defense Strategy has been praised by many including Politico, great relations with our ally Israel, plus a lot more. Our country was in great shape. Now it's in a pathetic mess.
You can try to rewrite history, but the truth is in Trump's last year in office in 2020, the US economy fell -3.4%, the largest decline since WWII. When Don the Con left office, our country and economy were not in great shape. Come on Pete, you can't pretend the pandemic didn't occur under Trump's watch and then blame Biden for the consequences.
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If you believe our economy is the worst in history now, you need to go back to school and pay attention. That’s just an absurd statement from someone who doesn’t understand economics nor history at all.
You simply believe everything the right wing haters tell you and repeat it. Your BS meter is broken. THAT is the biggest problem in our country right now.
You simply believe everything the right wing haters tell you and repeat it. Your BS meter is broken. THAT is the biggest problem in our country right now.
step away from the altright propaganda.
Sheesh it's scary you have the same voting rights as people that aren't done in by con men.
Pete, do you believe that such substantial voter fraud occurred that Trump actually won the election, and the Jan 6 was justified?
The only voter fraud that has been proven was done by GOPers from what I know.
Trump has
1. brought dishonor and sleaze to the office of the US president.
2. attacked democracy in the US. He has damaged our election system significantly with lies and innuendo. He triggered an attack on the US capitol.
3. He has tarnished the image of our courts, the CDC, the FBI, the IRS, the EPA, military leadership, the dept of education, the FDA, the postal service, you name it, everything Trump touches dies. His presidency was an utter disaster for the US government and has done massive long term damage.
4. He made racists feel comfortable enough to come out of the shadows and spread their hate publicly. They adore him.
5. He pressured the fed to hold off on raising interest rates. Stupid. His tariffs have made a significant impact on inflation, he cut taxes big for the rich when the economy was gang busters-stupid move.
He made your pidly tax cut temporary but the corporate tax cut permanent. Admit it.
6. Mishandled a pandemic-spent daily briefings talking about himself and extolling virtues of inappropriate drugs his supporters wanted to sell as a cure.
7. he did nothing to improve healthcare or infrastructure and lied about Mexico paying for the wall. He is a failed husband, father, businessman and president. He brings out the worst in people. His existence on the planet is a stain on humanity.
1. brought dishonor and sleaze to the office of the US president.
2. attacked democracy in the US. He has damaged our election system significantly with lies and innuendo. He triggered an attack on the US capitol.
3. He has tarnished the image of our courts, the CDC, the FBI, the IRS, the EPA, military leadership, the dept of education, the FDA, the postal service, you name it, everything Trump touches dies. His presidency was an utter disaster for the US government and has done massive long term damage.
4. He made racists feel comfortable enough to come out of the shadows and spread their hate publicly. They adore him.
5. He pressured the fed to hold off on raising interest rates. Stupid. His tariffs have made a significant impact on inflation, he cut taxes big for the rich when the economy was gang busters-stupid move.
He made your pidly tax cut temporary but the corporate tax cut permanent. Admit it.
6. Mishandled a pandemic-spent daily briefings talking about himself and extolling virtues of inappropriate drugs his supporters wanted to sell as a cure.
7. he did nothing to improve healthcare or infrastructure and lied about Mexico paying for the wall. He is a failed husband, father, businessman and president. He brings out the worst in people. His existence on the planet is a stain on humanity.
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Cons like Pete also like to talk about Trump's "great foreign policy". You know we are going to hear from the Fox crowd until the '24 election about how great Trump was on foreign policy and how he got tough on North Korea and China. But what did he actually accomplish?
What did the China trade war and subsequent Trump's "Deal of the Century" trade agreement accomplish?? After the trade war escalated through 2019, in January 2020 the two sides reached a tense phase one agreement; it expired in December 2021 with China failing by a wide margin to purchase American goods and services as agreed. By the end of the Trump presidency, the trade war was widely characterized as a failure. Farm bankruptcy rates hit 24%. Many small farmers went out of business.
The net loss to the US —the $114.2 billion consumers paid, minus the net production gains and tariff revenue—was $24.9 billion. In other words, the country was made worse off because of the trade war. Consumers and businesses that purchase imported goods were hit the hardest by these policies. China just increased trade in other parts of the world.
Then there is the "Art of the Deal" North Korean Nuclear Agreement (remember when Trump almost started a nuclear showdown??). The agreement is full of vague and immeasurable guidelines for North Korea and some idle promises from N Korea. UN Inspectors are not even allowed to inspect production sites. The agreement is a worthless piece of paper.
I have always been a "close the border" guy and I mostly agreed with Trump on immigration, but I opposed a 2,000 mile wall because it doesn't make sense financially and structurally in some areas of the border. (And definitely knew that Mexico paying for it was a flat out lie!! I actually laughed out loud the first time Trump said it!!) I'm OK with a wall near populated areas. In desolate desert areas, besides getting washed out, illegals can easily go over a wall or under it. In areas of Texas, remote canyonlands make building a wall on the actual border a difficult task, and ranch owners away from the canyons don't want a border wall going thru their ranches.
That said, the Dems are dead wrong on immigration. I refuse to believe we don't have the resources to stop illegal border crossings. I would have no problem putting troops across the entire border .
Trump made a bunch of noise on the world stage on foreign policy as the Ugly American Bully - that's all
What did the China trade war and subsequent Trump's "Deal of the Century" trade agreement accomplish?? After the trade war escalated through 2019, in January 2020 the two sides reached a tense phase one agreement; it expired in December 2021 with China failing by a wide margin to purchase American goods and services as agreed. By the end of the Trump presidency, the trade war was widely characterized as a failure. Farm bankruptcy rates hit 24%. Many small farmers went out of business.
The net loss to the US —the $114.2 billion consumers paid, minus the net production gains and tariff revenue—was $24.9 billion. In other words, the country was made worse off because of the trade war. Consumers and businesses that purchase imported goods were hit the hardest by these policies. China just increased trade in other parts of the world.
Then there is the "Art of the Deal" North Korean Nuclear Agreement (remember when Trump almost started a nuclear showdown??). The agreement is full of vague and immeasurable guidelines for North Korea and some idle promises from N Korea. UN Inspectors are not even allowed to inspect production sites. The agreement is a worthless piece of paper.
I have always been a "close the border" guy and I mostly agreed with Trump on immigration, but I opposed a 2,000 mile wall because it doesn't make sense financially and structurally in some areas of the border. (And definitely knew that Mexico paying for it was a flat out lie!! I actually laughed out loud the first time Trump said it!!) I'm OK with a wall near populated areas. In desolate desert areas, besides getting washed out, illegals can easily go over a wall or under it. In areas of Texas, remote canyonlands make building a wall on the actual border a difficult task, and ranch owners away from the canyons don't want a border wall going thru their ranches.
That said, the Dems are dead wrong on immigration. I refuse to believe we don't have the resources to stop illegal border crossings. I would have no problem putting troops across the entire border .
Trump made a bunch of noise on the world stage on foreign policy as the Ugly American Bully - that's all
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Mr. Tough guy’s foreign policy
1. kissing Putin’s arse
2. Sharing confidential info in the White House with Russians
3. Extorted the Ukraine president
4. Sharing love letters with NK
and Taliban lovin…..
1. kissing Putin’s arse
2. Sharing confidential info in the White House with Russians
3. Extorted the Ukraine president
4. Sharing love letters with NK
and Taliban lovin…..
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I am confused by the premise? Are you suggesting that we are supposed to be concerned about any life with skin color darker than pearl?
