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Coach Cuonzo Martin draw up an almost perfect play with 2 seconds remaining last night

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The Missouri Tigers @ home were down by two points last night against Texas A-M. The Tigers almost perfect play did indeed get off an uncontested 3-pointer that missed. It appears three players were involved in the perfect play ( Mark Smith, Parker Braun, and Torrence Watson ).

1. Mark Smith-----------47-120--- 491% for the 2020 season
2. Terrence Watson----23-81-----284% for the 2020 season
3. Parker Braun----------2-13------1-13% for the 2020 season ( 69 minutes this season )

Missouri are 9-9 overall and 1-5 in the SEC.

As it turn out---A long pass from Mark Smith ( Baseball pitcher ) to Parker Braun to Terrence Watson.

The Tigers play in West Virginia this weekend and will be a heavy underdog.

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Duck_walk said:
491% 284%. Someone’s math skills are next level.
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Missouri-----------9-9
West Virginia---15-3

Missouri is a 12 point underdog

Game time--11:00 AM

The boys in Las Vegas have done a good job on this point spread. I might not bet this game if I was in Vegas.

The game is on ESPN
 
metro-dude said:
The Missouri Tigers @ home were down by two points last night against Texas A-M. The Tigers almost perfect play did indeed get off an uncontested 3-pointer that missed. It appears three players were involved in the perfect play ( Mark Smith, Parker Braun, and Torrence Watson ).


1. Mark Smith-----------47-120--- 491% for the 2020 season
2. Terrence Watson----23-81-----284% for the 2020 season
3. Parker Braun----------2-13------1-13% for the 2020 season ( 69 minutes this season )

Missouri are 9-9 overall and 1-5 in the SEC.

As it turn out---A long pass from Mark Smith ( Baseball pitcher ) to Parker Braun to Terrence Watson.

The Tigers play in West Virginia this weekend and will be a heavy underdog.

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Ever since the tourney loss to Norfolk State Missouri basketball has been roughly on par with Kansas football.
 
Mizzou down one at half to West Virginia today, then score only 2 points in first 7 minutes of second half.
 
Duck_walk said:
the last I heard the highest scoring starter today was at 3 points.
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Missouri-----------51
West Virginia ---74

Illinois------------64--Coach Brad Underwood has Illinois in first place in the big ten.
Michigan--------62

When Brad Underwood took over @ Illinois. He got rite of players who could not play his style of basketball. It appears Coach Brad Underwood was correct as his Illinois team is ranked and in first place in the " Big Ten ". Illinois is almost a lock to be in the NCAA Tournament this year. It appears the Illinois AD made the right call when he hired Brad Underwood!
 
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Everyone said Anderson was the problem at Mizzou. Obviously he wasn’t the problem. His teams were improving but not quick enough. Now Mizzou is steadily getting worse.
 
washMoSports said:
Everyone said Anderson was the problem at Mizzou. Obviously he wasn’t the problem. His teams were improving but not quick enough. Now Mizzou is steadily getting worse.
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He was competent but only to a point. I don’t think he was going to ever get Missouri contending for SEC titles. Mike Anderson was the right guy for the job.
 
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kaskaskiakid said:
It's about the Jimmies and Joes,not the Xs and Os. Martin is a good coach. Give him time.
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it’s been 4 years and for sure not getting better. If anything getting worse. But he’s going to get a long time. Guaranteed 6 million if they try to get rid of him.

Anderson number one did a pretty good job I agree. Unfortunately we lost him.
 
washMoSports said:
Well he was smart enough to get a guaranteed $6 million buyout
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We have two very good college coaches on three sides of Missouri.
1. Kansas-----Bill Self-----------------------------15-4--second to Baylor in big twelve standing
2. Arkansas--Eric Musselman--presently----15-4
3. Illinois------Brad Underwood--presently---15-5---first in big ten standing

I believe the above three coaches will have their teams ranked for years to come. I keep an eye on all three of these teams as favorite. I will admit I watch ever game Missouri plays, if possible. We gave Kim Anderson three years before removal, Cuonzo Martin is in his third year and needs SEC type players to compete. The SEC is loaded with top coaches. Basketball coaches in the SEC must be great recruiters to compete in the top 10-11 in this league. How many roster players @ Missouri could be in the rotation @ the top 11 teams in the SEC? Would some post a number?
 
The porter boys and Tillman were a disaster for Missouri. I root for coach Martin but it’s just hard basketball to watch. They need better players!
 
3Rfan said:
How many teams have lost their best player 3 years in a row? I know you need better depth but that's pretty tough stuff to swallow 3 straight years. :eek:
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Too many of his critics forget this bad luck. I don't think you can blame Martin, he would have had much better luck with the guys he lost healthy, especially if the first Porter had stayed healthy. Instead of getting positive momentum from his full season, he played about 3 partial games and not in good health. It just seemed to snowball downhill ever since.
 
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That’s what I mean by disaster. The porter boys play a couple years you win. More better recruits come to Mizzou. Then a different story for Martin and the tigers
 
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mike37 said:
That’s what I mean by disaster. The porter boys play a couple years you win. More better recruits come to Mizzou. Then a different story for Martin and the tigers
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We must remember the Porter boys came to Missouri because their father was hired as assistance coach @ Missouri. Porter senior was made the 5th highest paid assistance coach in the NCAA. Porter Sr was instrumental in the recruitment of his two sons who were committed to Washington before Romar and Porter Sr. were fired . Tilmon enrolled because of the Porters. The above three Missouri recruits came to Missouri three years ago. It's rumored Porter Sr. will not be with the Missouri basketball team next year. ( This leaves open an opportunity to hire another asst. coach ) Could Missouri hire another asst. coach with assets? Recruitment @ Missouri has been below par for the past two season and there are no real reasons things will change next year, unless!

The results @ Missouri will not change until SEC type players are enrolled @ Missouri. Cuonszo Martin is a fine man, a decent bench coach but his recruitment has been a disaster. The attendance @ Missouri is also a disaster. Missouri has 4-6 wasted roster players who could not play NAIA D-3 basketball. The top player in St. Louis are enrolling @ winning programs out of Missouri. How can that change?

Let's review the new basketball coach @ Arkansas, Eric Musselman. There are three ( 5-star ) players in the state of Arkansas. Coach Eric Musselman has commitments from two of those 5-star players. There are Arkansas recruiters in the stands @ every game of the other 5-star player. The rumor is " What ever it takes ". We, Arkansas, will not let Kentucky cross our borders and enroll another Arkansas player without without our finest effort.

How can recruiting change @ Missouri?
 
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metro-dude said:
We must remember the Porter boys came to Missouri because their father was hired as assistance coach @ Missouri. Porter senior was made the 5th highest paid assistance coach in the NCAA. Porter Sr was instrumental in the recruitment of his two sons who were committed to Washington before Romar and Porter Sr. were fired . Tilmon enrolled because of the Porters. The above three Missouri recruits came to Missouri three years ago. It's rumored Porter Sr. will not be with the Missouri basketball team next year. ( This leaves open an opportunity to hire another asst. coach ) Could Missouri hire another asst. coach with assets? Recruitment @ Missouri has been below par for the past two season and there are no real reasons things will change next year, unless!

The results @ Missouri will not change until SEC type players are enrolled @ Missouri. Cuonszo Martin is a fine man, a decent bench coach but his recruitment has been a disaster. The attendance @ Missouri is also a disaster. Missouri has 4-6 wasted roster players who could not play NAIA D-3 basketball. The top player in St. Louis are enrolling @ winning programs out of Missouri. How can that change?

Let's review the new basketball coach @ Arkansas, Eric Musselman. There are three ( 5-star ) players in the state of Arkansas. Coach Eric Musselman has commitments from two of those 5-star players. There are Arkansas recruiters in the stands @ every game of the other 5-star player. The rumor is " What ever it takes ". We, Arkansas, will not let Kentucky cross our borders and enroll another Arkansas player without without our finest effort.

How can recruiting change @ Missouri?
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Not sure you can say his recruitment has been a disaster. No matter how he got the three you mentioned he still got them. Those three may have been the best recruits in a two year period since the Norm days.

What he didn't do is recruit players to fill in around them and now that they are gone he really only has a couple players that are D1 talent. I am more perplexed at his ability to evaluate talent. Very rarely does he have the best players on the floor the majority of the game. Watching Pinson against a good defensive guard looks like a freshman in high school playing. How he can watch it and keep him in there is hard to believe. Plus no improvement from LY to TY. How could you not of gotten him physically stronger over the summer.

At this point the rest of the year should be getting ready for next year. Every freshman should get at least 10 minutes each game to see what they got for next year. Martin's contract has that he cannot be fired until after the 20/21 season. Not many coaches have that so I would put everything on next year & use playing time accordingly. Some of the freshman show promise at times but are taken out when they make a mistake. They need to play through that to get ready for next year.
 
metro-dude said:
We must remember the Porter boys came to Missouri because their father was hired as assistance coach @ Missouri. Porter senior was made the 5th highest paid assistance coach in the NCAA. Porter Sr was instrumental in the recruitment of his two sons who were committed to Washington before Romar and Porter Sr. were fired . Tilmon enrolled because of the Porters. The above three Missouri recruits came to Missouri three years ago. It's rumored Porter Sr. will not be with the Missouri basketball team next year. ( This leaves open an opportunity to hire another asst. coach ) Could Missouri hire another asst. coach with assets? Recruitment @ Missouri has been below par for the past two season and there are no real reasons things will change next year, unless!

The results @ Missouri will not change until SEC type players are enrolled @ Missouri. Cuonszo Martin is a fine man, a decent bench coach but his recruitment has been a disaster. The attendance @ Missouri is also a disaster. Missouri has 4-6 wasted roster players who could not play NAIA D-3 basketball. The top player in St. Louis are enrolling @ winning programs out of Missouri. How can that change?

Let's review the new basketball coach @ Arkansas, Eric Musselman. There are three ( 5-star ) players in the state of Arkansas. Coach Eric Musselman has commitments from two of those 5-star players. There are Arkansas recruiters in the stands @ every game of the other 5-star player. The rumor is " What ever it takes ". We, Arkansas, will not let Kentucky cross our borders and enroll another Arkansas player without without our finest effort.

How can recruiting change @ Missouri?
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Easy answer to your question — Hire you as their top recruiter. It seems to me you think the job is an easy one.
 
TJ_DUB said:
Easy answer to your question — Hire you as their top recruiter. It seems to me you think the job is an easy one.
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TJ, Why are you attacking me. You should attack the post! Dude, I'm asking you to post anything that is not true in the above post? TJ, you appear to in favor denial and discredit concerning Missouri's problems which are recruiting and lack of attendance.
 
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metro-dude said:
TJ, Why are you attacking me. You should attack the post! Dude, I'm asking you to post anything that is not true in the above post? TJ, you appear to in favor denial and discredit concerning Missouri's problems which are recruiting and lack of attendance.
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No, Dude. What I’m saying is the job is not as easy as targeting Player A. Approaching Player A. Offering Player A and then signing Player A. Other schools, with a much more tradition rich in success, being on national TV at least once a week, etc., is doing the same to Player A. To me, you make it sound so easy to target, approach, offer and sign. If it’s that easy you or I could become the top recruiters for the Tigers and Coach M. Not trying to attack you, just trying to explain that getting Player A is not that easy.
 
TJ_DUB said:
No, Dude. What I’m saying is the job is not as easy as targeting Player A. Approaching Player A. Offering Player A and then signing Player A. Other schools, with a much more tradition rich in success, being on national TV at least once a week, etc., is doing the same to Player A. To me, you make it sound so easy to target, approach, offer and sign. If it’s that easy you or I could become the top recruiters for the Tigers and Coach M. Not trying to attack you, just trying to explain that getting Player A is not that easy.
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TJ, I agree with you on recruiting @ Missouri is not easy because the low attendance, the lack of TV coverage and top 30 coach. Under the leadership of the present basketball staff @ Missouri, top players are signing with the more attractive schools like Kentucky, Kansas, Michigan State, Duke, Auburn and others. Can anyone name a college coach who could defy the odds and turn this Missouri ship around when Coach Martin decides to leave Missouri?

1. Eric Musselman is one of the few who could take this challenge with a chance for success.
 
I understand that offering the players isn’t necessarily going to get them to come. Who would want to play there right now. I don’t see it getting any better.

If they fire Martin before April 30 2021 they have to pay him 6 million dollars. If they wait until April 30 2022, it’s 3 million dollars. Only 1 million in 2023. I don’t see Mizzou buying out in near future. Gonna be a long haul
 
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Gregg Marshall but they would have to open there pocket book. He is currently 17-3 with 2 wins over sec schools and 2 over big 12 schools
 
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TJ_DUB said:
No, Dude. What I’m saying is the job is not as easy as targeting Player A. Approaching Player A. Offering Player A and then signing Player A. Other schools, with a much more tradition rich in success, being on national TV at least once a week, etc., is doing the same to Player A. To me, you make it sound so easy to target, approach, offer and sign. If it’s that easy you or I could become the top recruiters for the Tigers and Coach M. Not trying to attack you, just trying to explain that getting Player A is not that easy.
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It absolutely isn’t easy. But that’s why he’s paid $4M+ to do exactly that. And also why his contract basically prevents him from being fired without cause until after next season. Short of some sort of scandal, Mizzou is stuck for the next year and a half. Their best hope is that he figures it out. But he’s a long way from that currently.
 
Eagles_Ball said:
It absolutely isn’t easy. But that’s why he’s paid $4M+ to do exactly that. And also why his contract basically prevents him from being fired without cause until after next season. Short of some sort of scandal, Mizzou is stuck for the next year and a half. Their best hope is that he figures it out. But he’s a long way from that currently.
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Cuonzo needs NBA type players to make him look good. If you were an NBA type talent would you want to play in his system? Slow it down half court grind it out games. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. I don't like watching it either. When was the last time they had a fast break dunk, or an alley opp dunk, or anything exciting for that matter? 70 points happens about once a month, when they happen to get hot and make a few shots. It's boring basketball in front of bored fans. It's going to be hard to get good enough talent to win consistently considering all those factors.
 
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