CNN---shot 6 times. Not from close range.
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No, actually what that means is that the kid wasn't shot while leaning in the car struggling to get the gun.
It ain't looking good for the cop. The girl who saw it sounds very credible and her statement jibes with the preliminary autopsy report. If there isn't residue on Brown's clothes the cop should have been arrested a week ago.
This post was edited on 8/18 10:54 AM by Duck_walk
This post was edited on 8/18 10:54 AM by Duck_walk
"Jackson said Brown was with a friend at an teen reportedly initiated an altercation, pushing the officer back into the vehicle and struggling to retrieve his weapon. The fatal shot was then fired from within the car.
Ferguson, Mo., Police Chief Thomas Jackson confirmed on Hannity that a shot was fired inside a police officer's vehicle during a struggle that ultimately resulted in the death of an unarmed black teenager. Jackson said there was a struggle for the officer's gun before 18-year-old Michael Brown was fatally shot by the officer.
The police have said Brown was shot amid a struggle with the officer in and around the officer's squad car.
So back to your original comment, I personally think it is vital new information, and not as worthless as you think it may be.
On the flip side, though, I think the autopsy report also paints a different picture if accurate.
One of the bullets entered the top of Brown's skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for New York City, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family's request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.
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Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.
The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunshot powder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Brown's clothing, to which Baden did not have access.
So, to me, if he was shot at least five times in the front, it would seem difficult to understand how he was running away. Unless, he really did turn and face the officer to give him self up.
Report also said the two shoots to the head were probable the last two fired. So whose to say he did not shoot him in the arm 4 times yet the person still charged forward so he shot him two more times hitting him in the eye and then as he fell over in the top of the head? Just saying according to the evidence and autopsy that is a very credible account. But again so many wanting to jump to conclusion and stroke the fires of a raciest cop. Never mind the kid had just committed a strong armed robbery, and never mind the autopsy show he did not have his hands up or that he was running away as several eyewitness swore at first...
We want all the negative about this kid to be thrown out because that is character assassination. But it is alright to go after the cop...this is one mixed up world. We all make chooses and with those sometimes come consequences that we might not like.
If he didn't stop coming towards him, he prolly didn't know he was hitting him. Also I believe they said really only one of the arm shots was a direct hit, grazes being the others until the first head shot. Then the second shot on top of the head.
There is so much information that is missing, it's hard to wait around for it with the nonsense going on.
It does look bad, but again had you been there or even if the cop had been wearing a camera it might also look justifiable hard to tell. Just so many unanswered questions. But I think it is clear to say the autopsy is putting some of the "eye wittiness" account in a very questionable light. Clearly he did not have his hand up when he was shot, and he also was not in a chock hold as his friend first said and he was not running away, he was facing the officer.
But I guess Holder did not get the autopsy he wanted as he is now requesting a third. I don't think this will be settled until the cop is charge be it he is guilty or innocent. You just wait if that happens there will be less people going into law enforcement, crap I would not recommend it because no matter what there seems to be this idea that all cops are racist.
A lot of questions to be answered yet.
The report says there was no powder residue but could be on the chothes which he didn't have access to. The one video that has surfaced makes it sound like he was charging the officer outside the car. Makes the victim sound guilty but doesn't jive with the scuffle part.
Maybe they fought inside the car and a shot was fired. Brown was running away and when the officer persued, Brown turned and charged being shot in the arms but kept coming leading to the fatal shots?
Way too many pieces missing to make a puzzle but few pieces we have jive with the "gentile giant" with hands up being gunned down scenario that the "protests"/riots are about.
The report says there was no powder residue but could be on the chothes which he didn't have access to. The one video that has surfaced makes it sound like he was charging the officer outside the car. Makes the victim sound guilty but doesn't jive with the scuffle part.
Maybe they fought inside the car and a shot was fired. Brown was running away and when the officer persued, Brown turned and charged being shot in the arms but kept coming leading to the fatal shots?
Way too many pieces missing to make a puzzle but few pieces we have jive with the "gentile giant" with hands up being gunned down scenario that the "protests"/riots are about.
I just don't see how the kid went from a first shot in the car, to fleeing, to getting shot in the front six times. Which is the information that is missing to me, even though every eye-witness account says he fled to approx. 35 feet, stopped while getting shot at, then raised his hands. If he turned toward the police and raised his hands, this guy is going to have a difficult defense. But if Brown turned and started toward him in a threatening manner, then I could see the number of shots to his front side.
As far as 2 shots to the head, aren't policemen trained where to shoot to bring down an unarmed person??
Police trained to eliminate the threat. In this case that was when he was down. Or so says his side of the story.
People like Duck think a cop is trained to hit somebody out 50 yards with a handgun. That's not reality. These guys are OK with handguns but not experts. They're not in the range like somebody that would be on the SWAT team. And yes, being shot one time and "grazed"(as they put it) a few others would not bring somebody down in a case like this. You can read Duck, do a google search. There are millions of cases of people getting shot in attacks and not even knowing it.
You shoot until they are down. Which is what he did.
This post was edited on 8/18 6:57 PM by Drop.Tine
People like Duck think a cop is trained to hit somebody out 50 yards with a handgun. That's not reality. These guys are OK with handguns but not experts. They're not in the range like somebody that would be on the SWAT team. And yes, being shot one time and "grazed"(as they put it) a few others would not bring somebody down in a case like this. You can read Duck, do a google search. There are millions of cases of people getting shot in attacks and not even knowing it.
You shoot until they are down. Which is what he did.
This post was edited on 8/18 6:57 PM by Drop.Tine
