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Classified documents found

As bad as I hate the Don, I will have to see proof that he used classified information for anything illegal or unethical. I haven't heard one report of any Trump activity related to classified information. Even Trump is innocent until proven guilty.
 
As bad as I hate the Don, I will have to see proof that he used classified information for anything illegal or unethical. I haven't heard one report of any Trump activity related to classified information. Even Trump is innocent until proven guilty.
He IS guilty of mishandling classified documents regardless of whether he gave the information to anyone else or not. Even if he didn't pack the boxes as he claims he knew they were there and claims they belong to him not the Archives. He is also guilty of obstruction when he had many months to return them and refused to do so then claimed all of them had been returned when that was not true.
 
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Biden had some documents. Trump had box after box specifically moved to a country club where he hosts thousands of people a year. Why would he do that unless he thought he could make some cash off of it?
It’s not like he is a voracious reader.

The proof is in the quantity, the location, the refusal to return the documents, the lies and obstruction of the investigation. The proof is in plain sight. We already have the proof.
 
and so is Biden........and didn't Hunter get $$$MMM from Ukraine.....
You haven't seen me defend Biden on this, only said he has been much more cooperative than Trump has ever been once this came out. I have called for Biden to resign, if he didn't know they were there and how they got there he should should have, HE was the boss, plus this all happened 2 or 3 months ago. What does Hunter Biden have to to do with this? I don't know what his deal was in Ukraine but he was paid to do it.
 
Yep no chance to remove Trump. You are so blind by your love of Trump.
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I don't love Trump I wish he would go away.... and that is not a Jury Trial that is a political impeachment and even that went tit's up. I do believe Trump was acquitted by the Senate do to lack of any legit evidence.
 
There is truly no comparison between the small number of documents found in Biden’s former office, how his people reacted, his intent and the hundreds of documents found in box after box in the basement of a country club accessed by tons of people and visited by people from several different countries including Saudi Arabia and China.

Trump claimed he didn’t have the documents, then claimed to own the documents, refused to return them, claims they weren’t classified, then claimed he declassified them with his mind, delayed and obstructed for months.

Just stop with the false equivalency BS.
And saying you’re sure Trump wasn’t going to do anything nefarious with the documents is the most naive nonsense I have ever heard. In what aspect of his life has Trump ever gone legit? What’s next, I’m sure Jared didn’t do anything for his 2 Billion dollar Saudi loan??

The “you don’t have any proof” defense defies human logic.
I just love how Biden lies in 2018 directly to the press Claiming he had no access to Classified Documents while in the Same building the interviewed was being conducted in housed those Classified documents. Not to mention those in his own home. Who Knows what types of people have seen those Documents and Visited Biden residence and Former Office.

I get it he's a Democrat so in your eye's it's 100% different. Different rules apply to Different parties. The Bias is strong with you.

And yes if their was Proof, Evidence and Prosecutable circumstances Trump would clearly have been found Guilty and faced the consequences.
 
Biden had some documents. Trump had box after box specifically moved to a country club where he hosts thousands of people a year. Why would he do that unless he thought he could make some cash off of it?
It’s not like he is a voracious reader.

The proof is in the quantity, the location, the refusal to return the documents, the lies and obstruction of the investigation. The proof is in plain sight. We already have the proof.
That is not proof..... that is just speculation and made up here say. Good gosh you truly are a believer in guilty first and must be proven innocent.

There is at this time no evidence or proof that has been released that anything untoward was done by either President with those documents.

Using your Burden of Proof scale.... Biden has had those Documents a lot longer and has had a lot more opportunities to Sell, Leak info. or Monetize them than Trump. Who knows how many Classified Documents Biden gave to Hunter that where once storied in his home in Delaware, or who was visiting his office?
 
I don't love Trump I wish he would go away.... and that is not a Jury Trial that is a political impeachment and even that went tit's up. I do believe Trump was acquitted by the Senate do to lack of any legit evidence.
Evidence has not mattered in any of these impeachments and it won't in a Biden impeachment. The fact there were members who crossed over to vote against Trump speaks volumes.
Yes, you do love Trump. You defend him more than Don, Jr.
 
Evidence has not mattered in any of these impeachments and it won't in a Biden impeachment. The fact there were members who crossed over to vote against Trump speaks volumes.
Yes, you do love Trump. You defend him more than Don, Jr.
If the GOP senate had allowed witnesses, Trump would have been removed from office.
 
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Biden had some documents. Trump had box after box specifically moved to a country club where he hosts thousands of people a year. Why would he do that unless he thought he could make some cash off of it?
It’s not like he is a voracious reader.

The proof is in the quantity, the location, the refusal to return the documents, the lies and obstruction of the investigation. The proof is in plain sight. We already have the proof.
So you are a quantity over quality guy?😁
How about the location comparison?
Marlargo and an office that is a think tank.
 
So you are a quantity over quality guy?😁
How about the location comparison?
Marlargo and an office that is a think tank.
Both are wrong.

The reaction is telling.

Trump obstructed justice.

But he has the evangelicals buying his BS to get their vote so they defend him.
 
The other question is why it took President Bidens team 48 days to notify the Justice Department upon discovering the classified docs?
 
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The other question is why it took President Bidens team 48 days to notify the Justice Department upon discovering the classified docs?
Good question.

The better question is why isn't biden hiding the documents and having his attorneys lying to feds?
 
Actually, Biden did hide it for 48 days!! ;) I wonder why it wasn't announced Nov 2?? Surely not because it was 2 days before the election!!

This classified docs mess has me wondering if taking docs out of authorized areas could be more widespread in other branches of government. Consider the House and Senate Committees on Intelligence and many others that have access to classified docs.
 
Actually, Biden did hide it for 48 days!! ;) I wonder why it wasn't announced Nov 2?? Surely not because it was 2 days before the election!!

This classified docs mess has me wondering if taking docs out of authorized areas could be more widespread in other branches of government. Consider the House and Senate Committees on Intelligence and many others that have access to classified docs.
I think we can assume at this point all presidents do it and some VPs.
 
That is not proof..... that is just speculation and made up here say. Good gosh you truly are a believer in guilty first and must be proven innocent.

There is at this time no evidence or proof that has been released that anything untoward was done by either President with those documents.

Using your Burden of Proof scale.... Biden has had those Documents a lot longer and has had a lot more opportunities to Sell, Leak info. or Monetize them than Trump. Who knows how many Classified Documents Biden gave to Hunter that where once storied in his home in Delaware, or who was visiting his office?
There are BOTH guilty if mishandling the docs which a crime, but Trump fought long and hard to keep them and say they're HIS.
 
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Actually, Biden did hide it for 48 days!! ;) I wonder why it wasn't announced Nov 2?? Surely not because it was 2 days before the election!!

This classified docs mess has me wondering if taking docs out of authorized areas could be more widespread in other branches of government. Consider the House and Senate Committees on Intelligence and many others that have access to classified docs.
They didn't hide it from the FBI and the Archives for 48 days. The docs were removed and the investigation has been on going all this time. It was not made public so you can take that however you want. The FBI has a goofy rule about not disclosing such things around and election.
 
They didn't hide it from the FBI and the Archives for 48 days. The docs were removed and the investigation has been on going all this time. It was not made public so you can take that however you want. The FBI has a goofy rule about not disclosing such things around and election.
You are correct. My mistake.

 
Evidence has not mattered in any of these impeachments and it won't in a Biden impeachment. The fact there were members who crossed over to vote against Trump speaks volumes.
Yes, you do love Trump. You defend him more than Don, Jr.
I don't love Trump..... I make the point that so far all this Hub Bub has amounted to nothing but hot air and gas. That the continued witch hunt has been ineffective and a waste of time. We are going on 6 years of Trump TDS and it's to some degree hilarious and funny and on another level its unhealthy.

I will continue to make my point that Trump is slimy but so is Biden, Obama,Clinton, Bush, Pelosi, McCarthy, McConnel, Schumer, AOC ,Sanders, Cruz etc. They are all equally bad some politicians just mask and veil their Slime and corruption to maintain power. And some are not exposed to the bright lights of exposure either.

Take toots he needs to convince himself that Biden is empathic and actually cares for people. Just a simple look at his political career and interaction with people shows this to be false on all levels. If you lie about your Son's suffering and death to gain political favor and votes you simply are not a empathic person. Biden used that situation for his own narcistic gain. Him and Trump are one in the same, Biden's fascade cracks every once and a while...why Trump bask's in the glow of his own self aggrandizing.

I operate under no delusions that Most of the people who aspire for Political power are heavy on the dark triad scale. As are most CEO and Public Figures in entertainment.. ... I understand fully what these people are and what they are capable of.

I've pointed out before that I pick the lesser of two evils. I would much rather have a Con man who isn't above skimming a bit off the top, than a Career politician who is embedded in Political Corruption across the Globe to enrich his family and friends and is Politically focused on taking away Constitutional rights and Freedoms that are enshrined in our Republic to gain favor with the radical arm of his party.


If toots thinks I'm gonna apologize for that he has less instinct about logical analysis than I suspected.
 
If we use toots guilty and must be proven innocent way of thinking then Biden and Hunter are 100% guilty. I mean Hunter living in the Home where these Documents where housed looks awful suspicious.


 
Actually, Biden did hide it for 48 days!! ;) I wonder why it wasn't announced Nov 2?? Surely not because it was 2 days before the election!!

This classified docs mess has me wondering if taking docs out of authorized areas could be more widespread in other branches of government. Consider the House and Senate Committees on Intelligence and many others that have access to classified docs.
This right here, I was watching a news show and somebody else mentioned this that politicians don't pack up thier stuff when they leave office, their staff does it and they just start throwing crap on a desk in the cabinets whatever, they just go in and start cleaning up throwing crap in boxes. If you have ever moved from one office to another or one house to another you understand that after the move many times boxes get shoved into corners and never get looked at again nobody knows what is in them it is just junk until you need to start looking for something.

Maybe our government needs to find a better way to make sure this doesn't happen when a politicians leave office.

The second question I have is how did they know Trump still had Classified Docks within a year of him leaving office but not Biden for 6 years after he had left, and really didn't know it was Biden's staff that self reported? How is all this classified information tracked, and really who looks at it, if it is just laying around on a desk and anybody can pack it up or see it...is it really that classified and secure, just seems our government is inept at this especially now with all the technology we have you would think there would be a better way to track this and know who has what, and when it is accessed and who is looking at it.
 
This right here, I was watching a news show and somebody else mentioned this that politicians don't pack up thier stuff when they leave office, their staff does it and they just start throwing crap on a desk in the cabinets whatever, they just go in and start cleaning up throwing crap in boxes. If you have ever moved from one office to another or one house to another you understand that after the move many times boxes get shoved into corners and never get looked at again nobody knows what is in them it is just junk until you need to start looking for something.

Maybe our government needs to find a better way to make sure this doesn't happen when a politicians leave office.

The second question I have is how did they know Trump still had Classified Docks within a year of him leaving office but not Biden for 6 years after he had left, and really didn't know it was Biden's staff that self reported? How is all this classified information tracked, and really who looks at it, if it is just laying around on a desk and anybody can pack it up or see it...is it really that classified and secure, just seems our government is inept at this especially now with all the technology we have you would think there would be a better way to track this and know who has what, and when it is accessed and who is looking at it.
Clearly it was all planted just like at Mar-A-Lago.

/s
 
Maybe so the MSM needs click bait and Emotional hate eyeballs to pay the bills. I wouldn't put it past the press to do so LOL I kid I kid.

"The MEDIA IS THE MOST POWERFUL ENITY ON EARTH. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent. Because they control the minds of the masses" Malcom X
 
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