Cardinals decline Wong's $12.5 million option for next year, REALLY?
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You’ve GOT to be kidding me!!They say they're open to discussing bringing him back but the flexibility for roster money next season is not very good. Surely he will get a decent deal on the free agent market from somebody.
Do they really think some other team ain't gonna offer more than that for a GG 2nd baseman? He might even hit better somewhere else. I just saw the Birds have already committed to their entire coaching staff for next season.
I can’t understand declining it. One yr and $12M is NOTHING. All that tells me is Edman will play 2B daily, Marp is your 3B, and they’re gonna roll with the same pitiful OF they had this yr. What baffles me even more is they put Schrock on waivers and he got claimed. Wtf??? Means Sosa is your UT guy. Putting a lot of stock in crappy players for the offense. Total cost-cutting move. Not a chance in hell they’ll sign a decent offensive player. One more effing yr of watching this crap. Perfect. Wasting a ton of good, cheap pitching.
Flaherty
Mikolas
Kim
Martinez
Gomber
Brebbia
Cabrera
Gallegos
Helsley
Hicks
Miller
Reyes
Knizner
Rando Cheap Backup
Goldschmidt
Edman
Dejong
Carpenter
Sosa
Bader
Carlson
Fowler
ONeill
Thomas/Dean/Williams
Brebbia and/or Gant will probably be around in some form or fashion.
For the most part, meet your 2021 Cardinals.
Mikolas
Kim
Martinez
Gomber
Brebbia
Cabrera
Gallegos
Helsley
Hicks
Miller
Reyes
Knizner
Rando Cheap Backup
Goldschmidt
Edman
Dejong
Carpenter
Sosa
Bader
Carlson
Fowler
ONeill
Thomas/Dean/Williams
Brebbia and/or Gant will probably be around in some form or fashion.
For the most part, meet your 2021 Cardinals.
Completely done on metrics this yr. Statistically, he’s one of the best OFers in all of baseball. Too bad he can’t hit MLB pitching. Just another AAAA player.
He played LF and he is fast. He got to a lot more balls than most LFs do. That was a big reason his metrics were so good.
Hard not to think the total lack of revenue from ticket sales and concessions at the ballpark doesn’t figure into a lot of decision making. How long can MLB and NFL survive with just revenue from television contracts if this continues into next season???
Granted I haven't followed it too much but did salaries get adjusted due to the lack of ticket revenue and the lower number of games? 3 million tickets and concessions to zero is a pretty big hit.
I don’t have a clue, I think if I was a player I would be telling management I can play cheap until this is all over
Salaries were adjusted for number of games, I don't know if anything was in there for loss of fans/revenue. There was a time before they figured out if they would have a season when the players union and owners had to do a little give and take on reduced salary per game also. I don't recall how that came out but at least we had a little bit of a season.
Adjusted for games, that’s all I think. The last hiccup in the negotiations was the owners wanting to renegotiate the original deal, which was due to the realization that there weren’t going to be fans. My hope is that money will be the catalyst that brings some normalcy back. Meaning the team owners finally just say screw it, and tell MLB we’re opening up the stadiums or we’re not playing.
One of the ONeill highlights they show on the Cards website is the one where he dove for a ball that he caught chest high and couldn't turn the DP on the runner off of 1st because he flopped on the ground and by the time he could get up his throw was too late.
Waino and Molina are going to end up playing for LaRussa and the ChiSox and we will screw up this offseason unfathomably bad.
Idk about the Waino and Molina part...but can whole-heartedly agree with the back half of that statement. I'd like someone not as lazy as me to list the trades and signings over the last five seasons or so. Think it'd be eye-popping bad. That includes extensions. Not a lot of guys playing to their contracts, and not a lot of trades that worked out well for the Birds. Not exactly sure how that equates to GM/POBO success.
I think he and Gomber, both, could be in the rotation. Put them with Mikolas and Flaherty, that’s a really solid four. Would assume that means Reyes/Ponce/Gant/CMart/Cabrera fight out that last spot. I like having the lefties. Just when you think about no Waino and no Hudson, the pitching depth really isn’t there. And I have a feeling the FO and owners are going to try to force feed Libatore, just to sell the narrative they didn’t get fleeced in that deal too. All in all, pitching still seems to be a definite positive.
I agree with Gomber as well. I would like it to be Gant, Reyes, or Cabrera. I don't really understand why Gant hasn't ever been thrown in the rotation. I think he would be a much better choice than Ponce. Reyes and Cabrera also have a lot of upside. I'm still curious what was going on with Cabrera and Molina at the end. I haven't seen Libatore, but you may be right on them having to push him up to try to save face.
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