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Saw Festus referred to as a "Blue Blood Program" in another thread.

Got me intrigued, what would/should the qualifiers for "blue blood" status be in the state of Missouri for high school football?

I mean Webb City and Valle are obvious blue bloods, who else falls into that status and why?
 
Veerman_12 said:
Saw Festus referred to as a "Blue Blood Program" in another thread.

Got me intrigued, what would/should the qualifiers for "blue blood" status be in the state of Missouri for high school football?

I mean Webb City and Valle are obvious blue bloods, who else falls into that status and why?
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Im glad you specifically mentioned Missorui here. You were about to get some long rambling posts on PA and TX requirements for schools having blue blood status!
 
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Veerman_12 said:
Specificity definitely reduces unwanted responses.
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Unwanted!?!?
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Veerman_12 said:
Saw Festus referred to as a "Blue Blood Program" in another thread.

Got me intrigued, what would/should the qualifiers for "blue blood" status be in the state of Missouri for high school football?

I mean Webb City and Valle are obvious blue bloods, who else falls into that status and why?
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In KC, Blue Springs, Rockhurst, Kearney, Platte County have been really good for 25-45 years and keep on going.
 
deacon jones said:
One of those looks out of place.
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Depends on how you quantify "blue blood" all those schools HIGHLY prioritize their football programs. All of those schools have at least appeared in championship games, and for the most part they have a history of sustained success.
 
Veerman_12 said:
Depends on how you quantify "blue blood" all those schools HIGHLY prioritize their football programs. All of those schools have at least appeared in championship games, and for the most part they have a history of sustained success.
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It's your topic, so you can set the definition of "Blue Blood."
If those are your only qualifications, dozens of more schools should be on the list. Dozens, really.
 
deacon jones said:
It's your topic, so you can set the definition of "Blue Blood."
If those are your only qualifications, dozens of more schools should be on the list. Dozens, really.
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I literally asked, what qualifies a blue blood? I want to know, I want input. Trust me, my opinion isn't the end all and be all.
 
Veerman_12 said:
Saw Festus referred to as a "Blue Blood Program" in another thread.

Got me intrigued, what would/should the qualifiers for "blue blood" status be in the state of Missouri for high school football?

I mean Webb City and Valle are obvious blue bloods, who else falls into that status and why?
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MICDS for sure
 
Veerman_12 said:
Saw Festus referred to as a "Blue Blood Program" in another thread.

Got me intrigued, what would/should the qualifiers for "blue blood" status be in the state of Missouri for high school football?

I mean Webb City and Valle are obvious blue bloods, who else falls into that status and why?
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A Blue blood is an elite. Not a new-money type of elite, but old-money elite. At least 25 years, some up to 40 or more, of consistent state championship contending, including several titles then and recent. For instance, Lee's Summit West was good for 12 years or so, which would be new-money (not Blueblood). Blue Springs has been good for 40 years or so, which would be old-money/Blueblood.
 
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Lamar has a had great run, but only for the last decade. They are more new blood. They were once consistently bottom tier of the Big 8. Still though, their recent run has been incredible!
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Yeah. Huge respect for Lamar and what Bailey has done but Lamar was not relevant prior to Bailey’s arrival.

10 years ago I don’t know that Webb City would even be considered a Blue Blood. I think a program’s success needs to go back at least 25-30 years.
 
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Historic Blue Blood Programs in Missouri High School football based on State titles, Playoff Appearances, Playoff wins, Finals Appearances.

Webb City
Valle Catholic
Jefferson City
Rockhurst
John Burroughs
MICDS
Lutheran North
Cass-Midway
Harrisonville
Chillicothe
Camdenton
Maryville
Blue Springs
Hazelwood Central
Sumner
 
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blue and white pride said:
Historic Blue Blood Programs in Missouri High School football based on State titles, Playoff Appearances, Playoff wins, Finals Appearances.

Webb City
Valle Catholic
Jefferson City
Rockhurst
John Burroughs
MICDS
Lutheran North
Cass-Midway
Harrisonville
Chillicothe
Camdenton
Maryville
Blue Springs
Hazelwood Central
Sumner
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Webb City 15 x Champions 3 x Runner-up
Valle Catholic 15 x Champions 4 x Runner-up
Jefferson City 10 x Champions 2 x Runner-up

Rockhurst 9 x Champions 7 x Runner-up
John Burroughs 9 x Champions 6 x Runner-up
MICDS 7 x Champions 6 x Runner-up
Lutheran North 6 x Champions 1x Runner-Up
Cass-Midway 6 x Champions 1 x Runner-Up
Harrisonville 5 x Champions 3 x Runner-Up
Chillicothe 5 x Champions 2 x Runner-UP
Camdenton 5 x Champions 2 x Runner-Up
Maryville 5 x Champions 3 x Runner-Up
Blue Springs 5 x Champions 3 x Runner-Up
Hazelwood Central 4 x Champions 10 x Runner-Up
Sumner 4 x Champions 5 x Runner-Up



Missing:



Worth County 7 x Champions 3 x Runner-Up

Webster Groves 4 x Champions 2 x Runner-Up

North Andrew 6 x Champions 6 x Runner-Up

Mound City 9 x Chamions 2 x Runner-Up

Lamar 7 x Champions



On the edge:

St. Pius X 3 x Champions 3 x Runner-Up

Seneca 2 x 5 x Runner-Up

Lexington 4 x Champions 1 x Runner-Up

Kearney 4 x Champions 1 x Runner-Up

Helias 2 x Champions 6 x Runner-Up

CBC 3 x Champions 3 x Runner-Up

Blair Oaks 3 x Champions 2 x Runner-Up
 
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Ilovewatching said:
A Blue blood is an elite. Not a new-money type of elite, but old-money elite. At least 25 years, some up to 40 or more, of consistent state championship contending, including several titles then and recent. For instance, Lee's Summit West was good for 12 years or so, which would be new-money (not Blueblood). Blue Springs has been good for 40 years or so, which would be old-money/Blueblood.
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To be fair...LSW has only been in existence for about 17 or 18 years.
 
Blue bloods are more than just titles or wins. The traditions, length of time of success, sustained success under multiple coaches, along with titles, wins, fanbase size, and all the other intangibles make for a blue blood.

So this is a tough one...I'd almost automatically say some of these would be. But I'd say give everything, there are probably only 4 to 6 programs that go there:

Webb
Rock
Maryville
Jeff City is a tough one, because they have dropped off. Like Indiana in basketball.
Valle Catholic
John Burroughs
MICDS

Sustained, long term success.
 
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Stockton doesn't have a Championship appearance but from 1974-2004 they had winning seasons every year, several semifinal appearances. They lost to St. Pius several times, if I remember right they had semifinal appearances in 76, 79, 84, 86, and maybe twice in the 90s. Head coaches include the likes of: Mike Smith (Webb City DC), Steve Hancock, Kevin Baldwin, Jon Franks, and Lynn Erickson all during those stretches. Probably not a current Blue Blood, but definitely was once in the conversation.
 
Harrisonville Wildcats Football

*102 years of football.
*623 wins, 322 loses and 40 ties.
1906-1907 (4-2-2)
1908-1919 (Didn't play football)
1920-1929 (42-31-9)
1930-1939 (41-27-12)
1940-1949 (36-30-9)
1950-1959 (52-33-2)
1960-1969 (45-47-2)
1970-1979 (75-20-4)
1980-1989 (75-28)
1990-1999 (58-44)
2000-2009 (101-25)
2010-2019 (94-35)

*Mineral Water Bowl Champions (1951)
*23 State Playoff appearances.
*45 State Playoff wins.
*8 State finals appearances.
*5 State Championships (2003,2005,2006, 2007,2016)
*3 Runners-up (1970,1983,2004)
*12 State semifinal appearances (8-4)
*17 State quarterfinal appearances (11-6)
*11 State Sectional appearances (9-2)
*4 State Regional appearances (4-0)
*18 District Championships
*34 Conference Championships
*8 Undefeated Seasons (1907,1928,1951,1952,1953,1971,2006,
2007)
*24 Final Media Poll Top 10
1970 #3 (10-2) 2A
1971 #4 (10-0) 3A
1975 #8 (9-1) 3A
1981 #8 (9-2) 3A
1983 #2 (12-1) 3A
1984 #3 (12-1) 4A
1985 #7 (8-2) 4A
1996 #7 (9-1) 4A
1998 #3 (10-3) 3A
2002 #10 (8-3) C3
2003 #1 (14-0) C3
2004 #2 (12-2) C3
2005 #1 (13-1) C3
2006 #1 (14-0) C3
2007 #1 (14-0) C3
2008 #9 (9-3) C4
2009 #9 (11-2) C4
2010 #2 (12-2) C4
2011 #5 (11-2) C4
2012 #3 (11-3) C4
2014 #9 (11-2) C4
2015 #5 (12-1) C4
2016 #1 (12-3) C4
2017 #7 (9-4) C4
*40 game undefeated streak
October 20,1950-October 29, 1954 (the longest in the state of Missouri at the time.)
*41 game winning streak
September 9, 2005-November 24, 2007

*Notable Coaches
George Brock (1930-31) became Dean of Students at Missouri Valley College
Volney Ashford (1932-36) College Football Hall of Fame, Missouri Valley College Hall of Fame
Ed Elliot (1960) President of Central Missouri State University from (1985-1998).
Don Keck (1961-1963) Department Head of Education Administration of Southwest Missouri State University (1979-2001).
Bob Barrett (1975-1989) record 113-35-2.
Fred Bouchard (2002-2007) record 75-6. MFCA Hall of Fame.
Chuck Lliteras (2008-2013) record 60-16. MFCA Hall of Fame.

Division I players in program history.
Howard Bearce (1934) Missouri
Luke Scavuzzo (1945) Missouri
Karl Lathrop (1952) Kansas
Dudley Childress (1952) Missouri
Rob Wright (1953) Missouri
Gene Roll (1953) Missouri
Bennie Alburtis (1954) Missouri
Michael Weaver (1968) Missouri
Gillis Leonard (1976) Missouri
Randy Hartzler (1985) Colorado
Kelly Donahoe (1986) Kansas
Zach Kendall (2006) Kansas State
Michael Keck (2007) Missouri
Taylor Lee (2008) Kansas
Derek Naida (2009) Air Force Academy
Travis Britz (2012) Kansas State
Zach Davidson (2014) Kansas State
 
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My best guess from reading the old newspaper articles of that time would be that finding teams to play at that time was difficult. They seem to play several of the teams on their schedule multiple times. Travel would have been more difficult at that time. Most player loaded up in cars with people going to the game, or you took a train to the game if the rail went where you were playing. Games were usually on Saturday because they were day games. Harrisonville didn't get lights on their football field until 1936. The other factor would be keeping players throughout the season. Rural areas lost players to the farm. Back in those days work was way more important than extracurricular activities. Even when Harrisonville restarted the program in 1920 they dealt with some of these same issues. Also these early games in 1906 and 1907 had different rules than the modern game. More of the rugby football. You can tell by the points awarded for scores. Baseball was also the American pass time and far more popular in our culture.
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Any idea why Harrisonville didnt play football from 1908-1919
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Jackson Indians football:

* 124 years of football
* 640 wins, 408 losses, 38 ties
* 18 state playoff appearances
* 33 playoff wins
* 7 semifinal appearances (3-4 record)
* 3 finals appearances (1994, 1995, 2019)

Outscored opponents 307-0 in 1935 in a 10-0 season.
 
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My best guess from reading the old newspaper articles of that time would be that finding teams to play at that time was difficult. They seem to play several of the teams on their schedule multiple times. Travel would have been more difficult at that time. Most player loaded up in cars with people going to the game, or you took a train to the game if the rail went where you were playing. Games were usually on Saturday because they were day games. Harrisonville didn't get lights on their football field until 1936. The other factor would be keeping players throughout the season. Rural areas lost players to the farm. Back in those days work was way more important than extracurricular activities. Even when Harrisonville restarted the program in 1920 they dealt with some of these same issues. Also these early games in 1906 and 1907 had different rules than the modern game. More of the rugby football. You can tell by the points awarded for scores. Baseball was also the American pass time and far more popular in our culture.
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Good points there. Back then, teams usually played "home and home" series during the year with teams to give both schools a chance at gate money. Another scheduling factor was train schedules. Teams traveled by train. I remember reading a Lexington vs Higginsville game historical article.. the visiting team was on the two yard line with a chance to win late in the game when the officials ended the game so the visitors wouldn't miss the train. A near riot broke out lol.
Two interesting facts about Chillicothe: the last time they lost every game in a seasonwas 101 years ago.. 0-3 in 1918 season, which was late to start and short due to a deadly Spanish Influenze scare nation wide. The last time Chilli failed to win a game was 70 years ago in 1949 when they were 0-6-3. Had a new coach that year that changed everything... he only lasted two years. The Fullback on that team? --- future legendary Chillicothe coach Bob Fairchild, he was a Senior. I always wondered if the frustration of his Senior Season is what helped make him a great coach.. cus he had been through the disappointment of a no-win season.
 
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Harrisonville Wildcats Football

*102 years of football.
*623 wins, 322 loses and 40 ties.
1906-1907 (4-2-2)
1908-1919 (Didn't play football)
1920-1929 (42-31-9)
1930-1939 (41-27-12)
1940-1949 (36-30-9)
1950-1959 (52-33-2)
1960-1969 (45-47-2)
1970-1979 (75-20-4)
1980-1989 (75-28)
1990-1999 (58-44)
2000-2009 (101-25)
2010-2019 (94-35)

*Mineral Water Bowl Champions (1951)
*23 State Playoff appearances.
*45 State Playoff wins.
*8 State finals appearances.
*5 State Championships (2003,2005,2006, 2007,2016)
*3 Runners-up (1970,1983,2004)
*12 State semifinal appearances (8-4)
*17 State quarterfinal appearances (11-6)
*11 State Sectional appearances (9-2)
*4 State Regional appearances (4-0)
*18 District Championships
*34 Conference Championships
*8 Undefeated Seasons (1907,1928,1951,1952,1953,1971,2006,
2007)
*24 Final Media Poll Top 10
1970 #3 (10-2) 2A
1971 #4 (10-0) 3A
1975 #8 (9-1) 3A
1981 #8 (9-2) 3A
1983 #2 (12-1) 3A
1984 #3 (12-1) 4A
1985 #7 (8-2) 4A
1996 #7 (9-1) 4A
1998 #3 (10-3) 3A
2002 #10 (8-3) C3
2003 #1 (14-0) C3
2004 #2 (12-2) C3
2005 #1 (13-1) C3
2006 #1 (14-0) C3
2007 #1 (14-0) C3
2008 #9 (9-3) C4
2009 #9 (11-2) C4
2010 #2 (12-2) C4
2011 #5 (11-2) C4
2012 #3 (11-3) C4
2014 #9 (11-2) C4
2015 #5 (12-1) C4
2016 #1 (12-3) C4
2017 #7 (9-4) C4
*40 game undefeated streak
October 20,1950-October 29, 1954 (the longest in the state of Missouri at the time.)
*41 game winning streak
September 9, 2005-November 24, 2007

*Notable Coaches
George Brock (1930-31) became Dean of Students at Missouri Valley College
Volney Ashford (1932-36) College Football Hall of Fame, Missouri Valley College Hall of Fame
Ed Elliot (1960) President of Central Missouri State University from (1985-1998).
Don Keck (1961-1963) Department Head of Education Administration of Southwest Missouri State University (1979-2001).
Bob Barrett (1975-1989) record 113-35-2.
Fred Bouchard (2002-2007) record 75-6. MFCA Hall of Fame.
Chuck Lliteras (2008-2013) record 60-16. MFCA Hall of Fame.

Division I players in program history.
Howard Bearce (1934) Missouri
Luke Scavuzzo (1945) Missouri
Karl Lathrop (1952) Kansas
Dudley Childress (1952) Missouri
Rob Wright (1953) Missouri
Gene Roll (1953) Missouri
Bennie Alburtis (1954) Missouri
Michael Weaver (1968) Missouri
Gillis Leonard (1976) Missouri
Randy Hartzler (1985) Colorado
Kelly Donahoe (1986) Kansas
Zach Kendall (2006) Kansas State
Michael Keck (2007) Missouri
Taylor Lee (2008) Kansas
Derek Naida (2009) Air Force Academy
Travis Britz (2012) Kansas State
Zach Davidson (2014) Kansas State
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The Blue Blood Hall of Fame Committe of MoSports, proudly announces that Harrisonville, is without a doubt, a member of the Blue Blood HOF.
 
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