Don’t worry. Eventually 60 yr old men with Tom Cruise fetishes will flood the thread pretending to be minor characters from a D-List 80s movie about a miserable steel town in Pennsylvania.
Don’t worry. Eventually 60 yr old men with Tom Cruise fetishes will flood the thread pretending to be minor characters from a D-List 80s movie about a miserable steel town in Pennsylvania.
Back to Class 2. Trinity couldn’t beat Blair Oaks. I said it on the internet. That makes it a fact, right?
I would love to see the trinity team play Blair oaks this year. All talk about opposing great offenses every week the Blair oaks goes against. But to give up 60 total yards in the state championship? Come on. Blair oaks QB didn’t throw an interception this YEAR. Wow. Would love to see what he would do under a little pressure but never really got that chance when your defense shuts down every opponent.
No. Then....
Or ESL is a 10 point favorite vs Southern Boone..
Trinity may be the most talented Class 3 team in years, maybe ever. They earned their title and you can celebrate that. Just don’t be too upset if a lot of us don’t think they would match up with the likes of Vianney,Rock, etc because honestly right now they don’t. One game against ESL doesn’t prove it.
I can remember a class 6 champ Desmet some years back had to come from behind to beat a .500 Class 4 St Charles West early in the season.
If Trinity continues to bring in players maybe that will change in s couple years.
I never said any of that, just don't sit there and downplay their game against them. Teams don't just roll into East St. Louis and take them to triple OT. And East St. Louis would smash Southern Boone to pieces.
The kid is a seriously good high school QB. Some college coach somewhere is gonna give him a shot. He had a tremendous Jr season also. I don’t recall seeing him at any Nike, Rivals or Under Armour events and idk if he went to any college camps this Summer. He doesn’t show up in any rankings on recruiting boards, so I don’t think he got much exposure to colleges. Hopefully someone finds the kid.
My bad but seriously Trinity will probably be 5th or 6th in the final College Football Playoff standings
Joke all ya want, I'm not here to argue the 2nd best team stuff. All I know is they are state champs in Class 3 and mowed through the class, which many of you predicted and hoped they wouldn't.
Not enough depth to do that. Class 3 champs, no joke. Y'alls tears are delicious, however.
He is a helluva high school quarterback but @ 5' 10" makes it a bit problematic for a lot of college offenses. But of course there was Doug Flutie, so who knows? I'm certainly no expert on the subject. From all reports he is a tremendous young man in all respects so wishing him the best wherever his path leads.
Rumor has it this is why the Rams left st louis .The threat of possibly losing to trinity in a showdown game for bragging rights of best team in st louie was more pressure than they could handle.
You rural MO dudes have an insanely lame sense of humor. LOL
Oh ... you care about history now? Is it only when history doesn't support your argument that you want to ignore it?
LN went to battle with BO with several D1 prospects (6 to be exact per rivals.com) playing on both sides of the ball and it didn't help them out in beating a much smaller BO team which technically does not have any.
So if you think Trinity would run all over BO just because they are Trinity you are more delusional than the LN defense coach whose game plan was disrupt BO's QB and create chaos game over. They tried, they failed miserably. Trinity's game plan would probably be the same and might have a bit more success but after seeing them in person and seeing BO in person I have to say this. BO plays with passion. They feed off their fan base and their fan base is huge and they travel very well. Trinity would have to match that passion in their play (LN's failure that they did NOT do) and actually succeed in disrupting the QB (LN's other failure that they did not come come close in doing). If Trinity could do both then they would have a chance against them. It didn't matter how many D1 prospects Trinity has or the size difference.
So if you think Trinity would run all over BO just because they are Trinity you are more delusional than the LN defense coach whose game plan was disrupt BO's QB and create chaos game over. They tried, they failed miserably. Trinity's game plan would probably be the same and might have a bit more success but after seeing them in person and seeing BO in person I have to say this. BO plays with passion. They feed off their fan base and their fan base is huge and they travel very well. Trinity would have to match that passion in their play (LN's failure that they did NOT do) and actually succeed in disrupting the QB (LN's other failure that they did not come come close in doing). If Trinity could do both then they would have a chance against them. It didn't matter how many D1 prospects Trinity has or the size difference.
The fan base would be the difference. Dudes that know when to yell "hit somebody" and "OL block somebody." Huge factor.
I know what you're saying here ... LOL ... but, don't discount that a fan base is not ONLY Carthage Moms and Uncle Ricos ... it's made up of people who have supported the kids for 5 am weights and tutoring before a math test and meals and shoes where there might not have been any and encouragement when things get tough etc etc ....
Fan bases don't decide championships but they certainly aren't without value.
I saw the game too, Lutheran North seemed to underestimate. That has to be assumed because they didnt stop anything. Blair Oaks is obviously a good team but Trinity is next level. Much more offensive talent than LN. That Fan Base and Passion shit is literally the least interesting thing to talk about, dont know why that was added.
I think BO would end up with about the same result Maryville did against Trinity.
Keep it close for first half then Trinity's OL would dominate the LOS the second half. Having 300lb kids going play after play against 200lb kids will wear them down.
Keep it close for first half then Trinity's OL would dominate the LOS the second half. Having 300lb kids going play after play against 200lb kids will wear them down.
You're assuming the 300 lbers would still be in the game. Imagine the unsportsmanlike and personal fouls that would be called if Trinity was down double digits.
I think it would be a close game and it could go either way. I will say everybody kept saying the same thing about Lutheran North against Blair Oaks. But I think people don't quite understand Blair Oaks was very talented in their own right, not as much as Trinity but they still have some guys that can flat out play.
To me the biggest difference would be coaching, and that was the biggest difference in the Lutheran North game.
Blair Oaks would severely out coach and out scheme Trinity just like they did Lutheran North. Lutheran North had no clue how to adjust to Blair Oaks motions and formations, they were constantly misaligned the whole game, and that gave Blair Oaks some really good numbers advantages and matchups.
Defensively Blair Oaks is fast and can run as well, again not saying more so than Trinity. But if you saw their games all year long, especially against LN and Lathrop, it will give you an understanding of just how good their defense was this year as well. Coaching would once again be a big advanatage, Blair Oaks is always in the right position to make plays and are very very fundamentally sound. Blair Oaks also only had 3 players that played both ways, Trinity has most guys going both ways.
Overall I think it would be a great game but Blair Oaks to me is talented enough, and so disciplined and well coached. In the games I saw Trinity play, they were undisciplined, didn't always align correctly, didn't have enough guys on the field, walking around at that snap of the ball not ready to play, etc. They are extremely talented, but that is what the rely on about 95% of the time to be successful. I believe Lutheran North was better coached than Trinity. LN played right with Trinity in the jamboree, granted it was a jamboree and at the very beginning of the year.
In several games this year there was talk about how teams would either beat Blair Oaks, play with them or they wouldn't be able to handle this and that. But every game the players and coaches left no doubt who the best team on the field was in those games.
I wanna argue back because well, thats what I do.
But the Blair Oaks/LN game made a believer out of me. Blair Oaks, while isnt in Trinity’s league athletically, executes their offense similar to only CBC. Like the opposition just feels helpless because the ball is being moved at will.
I know you guys love to talk about discipline every .473835 seconds because you all are weird in that way, but the execution and scheme is what makes Blair Oaks stand out.
Its just hard to say for sure about BO because the schedule had only 2 games of teams even close to them (Maryville/LN).
Then the argument really falls apart because of the way Trinity choked out Maryville, I mean it wasn’t remotely close WHILE getting the typical 573937363738 penalty yards they are known for. Maryville/BO very competitive game, similar athletically. Maryville/Trinity was a mismatch as soon as you seen the teams line up vs each other.
So in so many words: **** outta here thinking BO would beat Trinity.
It’s a forum so yes it’s like an argument but let’s also not forget some of the teams lutheran north beat before getting handled by Blair oaks. Lutheran north beat chaminade which is a team that beat class 6 Jeff city. Now granite, Jeff city isn’t the program it once was but we all now there is a large gap between talent in class 2 vs class 6. Kids are just bigger faster and stronger at that level of school in most cases. Lutheran north also beat micds which was in the class 4 state championship game. I know I know. Previous games don’t matter as a while argument but that Lutheran north team had 300 pounders on that team and 5-6 division 1 players. Blair oaks didn’t care how big, nor how fast they were. They did there jobs just like any other opponents they faced and put on a slobber knocker. That game wasn’t as close as the score showed. As every kept saying they moved the ball at will and a very fast stymie defense controlled their very best players including their star running back.
Man if we could just set up one game between the two to separate the men from the boys and end this thread. Lol
Man if we could just set up one game between the two to separate the men from the boys and end this thread. Lol
Let’s keep in mind this was game one, as stated before. Blair oaks was a different team towards the end of the season. There wasn’t anyone going to conditionally beat them. Those 300 pounders would likely be worn out with the speed vs those 200 pounders you are stating.
Maryville was by far the worst game BO played all season. Maryville didn't play great but they out executed BO and took advantage of mistakes to keep it within 2 scores. Final margin came after a late touchdown due to another BO mistake. Maryville is a great team but it should have never been that close, BO just outplayed them all day and the score didn't reflect it due to mistakes.
BO didn't make those mistakes later in the year. I think if Trinity played BO and used Maryville as a comparison they would be stunned and down 3 TDs before they knew what hit them, like LN
I was just checking back to see if the unresolvable, no opinions changeable "we're better than you" contest had finished up yet. Nope.
So why not compare another common opponent? Let's say, Southern Boone? This was a team that was ranked in the Class 3 Top 10 all year and 2 of their 3 losses came to the Class 2 & Class 3 State Champs. Both BO's and Trinity played at Southern Boone....on a muddy field?!
In so many words: ****** outta here thinking BO wouldn't stand a chance in this game!
It sure is refreshing to see a thread this week that isn’t full of excuses, complaining and bitching about private schools. I remember the last 2 years when every rural small school fan was able to ride Lamar’s jockstraps and pretend THEIR schools had won because Lamar did. Back then, it was all backslapping and jokes because ... even though they were jealous of the scholarship offers STL kids were getting ... they could say it didn’t really matter because Lamar was winning.
Then, Lamar loses and they’re forced to watch Trinity play for State against a school NOT from SWMO ... and the tears start flowing. Not only do Trinity kids get offers and write ups, but now they’ve won State!
Maybe they need to take a page from Blair Oaks’ notebook and join the trend of teams that DON’T run offenses from before the forward pass was legal? Maybe Bailey ISN’T a genius? Maybe LePage is better? Maybe this is the beginning of another trend in MO high school football where small school Wing T teams are forced to evolve?
Either way ... it’s fun to watch them cry. Even more fun than watching BO run a RPO Clinic all the way thru Class 2.
Then, Lamar loses and they’re forced to watch Trinity play for State against a school NOT from SWMO ... and the tears start flowing. Not only do Trinity kids get offers and write ups, but now they’ve won State!
Maybe they need to take a page from Blair Oaks’ notebook and join the trend of teams that DON’T run offenses from before the forward pass was legal? Maybe Bailey ISN’T a genius? Maybe LePage is better? Maybe this is the beginning of another trend in MO high school football where small school Wing T teams are forced to evolve?
Either way ... it’s fun to watch them cry. Even more fun than watching BO run a RPO Clinic all the way thru Class 2.
