Once a week I try to ask a football based question to help balance out all the nonsense I post, this weeks is, Who are some of the best programs in the state (sorry Ampipe) without a title but are consistent winners
Best programs without a title
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You clearly have NOT seen my doc. Before every game, the Ampipe players touch the championship game ball. NICE TRY CLOWN!!! Now I will respectfully stop my doc talk, as to not derail your one thread that isnt pure nonsense!
I've always thought Macon was the best program to never make the title game (3 time semi-finalist) but I am biased as all get out. Have always been consistently good. Have never made a title game in basketball either despite having a really strong girls program for decades and good boys teams from time to time. A product of being the smallest or close in C3 instead of the largest or close in C2 a lot of years during the 4 class era.
Up until about 15 years ago, Stockton had around 30 straight winning seasons, a dozen or more district titles and a handful of state semifinal appearances. Also look at Thayer and Pierce City, both are continuously the best in their conferences and usually play each other in districts or the first round of state. They have had to go through Hayti or Valle usually at some point as well.
Thayer or Tipton. Tipton won the Tri-County one year only to fall to Cabool 6-0, I believe.
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You'd have to have luck from hell to be higher on this list than Jackson. Near double digit semifinal berths, three state final berths and zero state championships. Also, no state championship was lost by more than six points. The Jackson Indians have to be up there.
Carthage used to always make this list, glad they are no longer in this elite club!
Thats who I was going say. 2nd choice would be Smithville.
I was going to say the same thing, Carthage has been a very good program for years, just could not get over that hump until last year.
Could Joplin be considered a program that has not won any titles. I mean the town had schools that won like Parkwood and Memorial, but Joplin as a single school has never won?
Nixa has always been one of the better SWMO schools but I don't think they have ever won. Branson had some really good runs in the 80's and 90's and early 2000's I know they were in the title games but did they win one?
Bolivar is another program that not many want to play because they are usually pretty good, I don't think they have any titles.
Mountain View has been pretty good the last 10 years. Would probably have a 2 or 3 trophies if not for Lamar's run.
Does the Grove have any titles they have really been pretty peppery over the years.
I don’t agree. Thayer and MTN View Liberty are both good examples of being the second best team in the state meeting the number one team early in the playoffs.
True:
Thayer always ran into Valle
Tipton: always ran into Valle or Thayer
Mtn View always ran into Lamar
All played very good competition during the regular season.
Thayer always ran into Valle
Tipton: always ran into Valle or Thayer
Mtn View always ran into Lamar
All played very good competition during the regular season.
I'm pretty sure no one in the SCA has ever won a state title, but the conference has had a lot of very good teams. Salem has been State Runner up several times, Ava was Runner Up last year, Thayer has been runner up a couple of times. Houston and Mnt Grove have been to the Semis several times. Then of course Mt View Liberty running into Lamar all those years. Good conference that for whatever reason just hasn't broken through yet.
It's a shame how good MV has really been probably gets lost outside of southern mo. Remove Lamar and they probably have 2-3 State Championships and 2-3 Runner-up's in the last ten years.
Mtn. View was very good during that stretch that Lamar won their 7. Lamar was non-existence as a quality team until 2009 or so. MV/BT in 2014 and 2015 played Lamar as close or closer than anybody and just couldn't seal the deal. That 14-7 loss was a heartbreaker. Actually there have been several good Class 2 and 3 teams in SWMO/SOMO that have been good for a long time without being able to seal the deal. Throw Fair Grove into the mix, recently, maybe even Strafford.
Lol yeah the old "got beat by the best team so that means we're really good" argument. It usually holds up.
Anytime you have one team winning all or most of the championships during a long stretch of time, like Lamar or Webb City there will be those teams that popped up during the same time period and had really good runs but didn't get much attention because of 'that one team' that was abnormally good for an abnormally long time.
The two teams I mentioned regularly have a good strength of schedule and the years they was contending they only lost one or two games a season so yes they was beaten by the best and they were really good.
I'm going off topic but how many new state champions we will see this year.
I see about 2 but could be 5
Teams that could win their first championship this year
Class 1
Mid- Buchanan
Thayer
Windsor
Westran
East Buchanan
Class 2
Lutheran St Charles
Palmyra
Lafayette County
Butler
Class 4
Hannibal
West Plains
Festus
Smithville
Winnetonka
Carl Junction
Moberly
St Dominic
Class 5
Jackson
Grain Valley
Ft Zumwalt north
Belton
Class 6
Liberty
Nixa
I see about 2 but could be 5
Teams that could win their first championship this year
Class 1
Mid- Buchanan
Thayer
Windsor
Westran
East Buchanan
Class 2
Lutheran St Charles
Palmyra
Lafayette County
Butler
Class 4
Hannibal
West Plains
Festus
Smithville
Winnetonka
Carl Junction
Moberly
St Dominic
Class 5
Jackson
Grain Valley
Ft Zumwalt north
Belton
Class 6
Liberty
Nixa
Cabool has only title in SCA, 1968 vs Seneca
From 1976 to 1985 Stockton had 3 semifinals, and lost to the state champs in 2 of those three. Also lost to state champs in quarterfinals in 78, 81, 84 by 2 td, 1 td, 3 pts. Coach Hancock had 2 semis and qtrs in 9 yrs at Stockton. Erickson had semi in 76 and qtr in 75. Lost to state champ in 76.
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CJ, they have had some really good teams that had to play Webb in districts. I think they would have had multiple titles if they hadn't ran into WC. I think they make a run this year.
You are Correct I forgot that one, either way the SCA has had a lot of good teams that have not won a championship besides Cabool.
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