Did they talk to Larry Drew about the job? If the Tigers move on from Anderson, would Drew be a good fit?
Before the Tigers hired Kim Anderon
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Does he have any college coaching experience?
They currently have a basketball coach and a football coach that were hired because they played at MU. It's almost always a bad idea to hire someone for that reason. I know no top candidates wanted either job, but those two have not done anything to improve it for the next guy.
Nothing will top what Missouri State did in' 92. They passed on Kevin Stallings (among others), and Mike Brey was flying in to interview, and then Bill Rowe hired Mark Bernsen! You can't make it up.
At this point the program is many years from returning to what it was under Norm
Stewart.Bring in a new coach got to start over he will get fired and just becomes a vicious
circle. They are very young Anderson recruited them all like in South Carolina he didn't
have a winning team until 4 th year. To me lets see if they can compete when they are
sophs and Junior's under Anderson. As this point NO high level coach is going to get
involved in this program.
Stewart.Bring in a new coach got to start over he will get fired and just becomes a vicious
circle. They are very young Anderson recruited them all like in South Carolina he didn't
have a winning team until 4 th year. To me lets see if they can compete when they are
sophs and Junior's under Anderson. As this point NO high level coach is going to get
involved in this program.
I think it's unquestionably true at this point that Kim Anderson will be relieved of his duties after this season.
Not sure what you would consider a top level coach, but Frank Haith and Kim Anderson neither one exactly had people knocking down their doors.
Yeah, with the trouble that the football and basketball teams are currently in, not sure any more egregious infractions will be looked upon favorably by the NCAA. He is a good coach, though!
He got in trouble with the NCAA 8 years ago because he made too many phone calls and texts and then lied to them about it. He's kept his nose clean sense. That doesn't bother me very much.
The text message/phone call stuff happened at Indiana and OU. I think he got hammered by the NCAA because he lied to them about it. To me, what he actually did is not very upsetting. Plus, I know he can come in right away and win.
Don't be too sure of that. I think with Barnett, this team does no worse than the NIT next season. They're extremely young, but most can see pieces are there. I hope HCKA gets the chance to coach this bunch next season and beyond. My belief he'll quiet some of the critics.
They just need someone who can score consistently. The defense has been decent. They don't turn it over all that much. They just can't score. 40% from the field with 28% from 3 isn't getting it done. One guy who can score would make a big difference.
Mizzou needs to throw a ton of money at a top level coach and pray he takes it! Plus have it in writing he gets at least 5 years to turn this mess around.
I honestly don't think it's a mess, and I would bet most that can view...with an open-mind...the games along with understanding the youth of the roster, don't think that either. But there's a lot of season left before deciding a change needs to be made.
How do you know Barnett is any good? He couldn't get any clock on two mediocre Texas teams.
They just lost to an Arizona team by 20 that started 3 freshman. The talent isn't very good. No one can score with any consistency.
I'm sure he's better than most of the players on mizzou's roster. That says more about Mizzou than Barnett.
You mean the three frosh that made up the #3 class? Of course their talent level is greater. Sean Miller and a handful of other programs can do that every single year. That isn't possible at MU (see FFH's attempts), and surely doesn't appear to be HCKA's plan. Amazingly, players tend to improve with age and coaching in college. Derek Willis wasn't good enough to get clock a couple years ago at UK, and look now. IMHO, KA is trying to build it with 3 and 4-star guys that will be four year players. Problem is, all of those players are frosh and sophs currently. Once they get to be jrs and srs, there will be a class behind them ready to contribute as jrs and srs. But I get it, everyone wants instant results.
It's not so much that the talent is better. The problem is that arizona's talent is so much better while being just as young as Mizzou. That shouldn't be the case under Kim Anderson year 3.
Also,
1) Kim ran off all the upper classemen he inherited. It is his choice that the team is this young.
2) The upperclassman on the roster (Woods) is terrible, and the sophomores on the team have not gotten any better.
I don't want instant results. I want to see SOME improvement in year 3. There is 0 improvement. In fact, Mizzou is just as bad in year 3 as in year 1 under Kim. But it doesn't matter. He will be fired after this season and we will wash our hands of this whole terrible experiment.
Do I believe that Kim Anderson close to Miller? Uh, no, that's not what I believe or what I said. My point is that Kim has no players that are anywhere near Arizona's talent regardless of class. That's a problem in year 3.
The university hired Kim Anderson, above all things, to win games. Do you really think they care if he did it all by transfers? He also ran off players that were half-decent and weren't trouble makers. Players like JIII. His choice, but he has to live with the results.
Really, tell me what Woods does "much better?" Can't score, slow feet, not especially good on the glass. And the argument isn't whether he's "much better," it's whether he's any good or not. He's not good.
You can wait to see whether the young guys are any better. It's pretty obvious to those of us that have watched the games and seen practice that these guys are simply not good. Again, Kim Anderson's fault. He can't recruit.
The university hired Kim Anderson, above all things, to win games. Do you really think they care if he did it all by transfers? He also ran off players that were half-decent and weren't trouble makers. Players like JIII. His choice, but he has to live with the results.
Really, tell me what Woods does "much better?" Can't score, slow feet, not especially good on the glass. And the argument isn't whether he's "much better," it's whether he's any good or not. He's not good.
You can wait to see whether the young guys are any better. It's pretty obvious to those of us that have watched the games and seen practice that these guys are simply not good. Again, Kim Anderson's fault. He can't recruit.
Good thing the people making that decision probably haven't decided that after nine games.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Mizzou will never get the top recruits to go there until they get some other major issues figured out with the school. The place is a joke, and no parent in their right mind would send their son to this school. You can complain all you want, but that does not fall on Kim Anderson's shoulders. Nobody is going to step in and be immediately successful here right now. I do believe it could happen, but it will take TIME. Kim Anderson is a good basketball coach, and I do agree with you that he is working with far less talent than some of the schools they are competing against, and in most situations in 3 years there should be some noticeable results on the floor, but I just don't know if that is possible at Mizzou right now because kids just won't go there. I hate seeing a basketball "guru" who's only claim to fame was sitting the bench on a district championship team as a sophomore in high school give insight on what should happen with a college program. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Protests, "racism", just the bad press that the school has been dealing with for a while. I am a Mizzou supporter. I just think it is going to be hard for a while to consistently get great talent.
Gotcha. Just curious.
The events of last November have definitely impacted perception. Fortunately it doesn't seem like it has had a huge impact on recruiting. It seems like the struggles there are more the result of the lack of recent success and the coaching staff.
I remember watching Quin Snyder's last season and thinking that it would be a long, long time until we would be competitive again. Then three years later, they win the Big 12 tournament, go to the Elite Eight, and win 30 games. Things can change quickly in basketball with the right hire (Mizzou has seen that for better and worse in the past decade).
I guess I'm a little blinded by the fact that I want Kim Anderson to succeed. I want this group of guys to succeed. I want to see the Barnett kid in action. You aren't going to see an immediate turnaround with anyone..and wouldn't that be something if they fire KA and then his kids go on to win a ton of games? that's who it would have to be if you want to win next year...they aren't going to get any "1 and dones"
While the school has issues, you could certainly do a lot worse than a Mizzou education.
I would never claim to be a basketball "guru," but I also don't think you need to be a great player (lord knows I wasn't) to understand basketball. It's not exactly a complicated game. You also don't need to be a great player to have some understanding of what expectations should be placed on a year 3 college basketball coach. While Kim Anderson didn't walk into a good situation, he also didn't walk into the worst situation a coach has ever faced. He also hasn't done anything to make any improvement on this situation.I hate seeing a basketball "guru" who's only claim to fame was sitting the bench on a district championship team as a sophomore in high school give insight on what should happen with a college program. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
He's a great guy. I wanted him to succeed too. I was incredibly stunned by the hire but I took off work to attend the introductory press conference at Reynolds Alumni Center. I saw his passion and the emotion and I thought that it might work. But it just hasn't.
I will support him as long as he is the head coach and I continue to go to all the home games but it is just incredibly sad to see Mizzou Arena right now. I think we will see marginal improvement throughout the year and I hope that he is given the opportunity to resign, rather than be fired. But I think this has been a foregone conclusion since about halftime of the Tulane game and if not then, certainly after North Carolina Central led wire to wire in that game.
I would debate he hasn't made any progress. If all you are looking at is W-L, then I think we still have to wait on the season to finish..maybe not at this point. But, they've stayed out of the news, he has a promising core of young guys that will sneak up on some people.
why is it that we have to choose between breaking rules and winning and staying clean and struggling. why do coaches get to go to the next program and do what they want while their institution has to suffer?
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