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Conservatives believe that is the one role the federal government must play over ANY other. You don't have to run a deficit to defend the country.
Liberals place many things higher in importance.
You must not be watching the debates or looking at their policy proposals - outside of Rand Paul, deficits are not a real consideration.

The Ds proposals produce lower budget deficits and debts than the R proposals because the Ds are willing to pay for their programs.
 
Veer was saying they wouldn't oppose debt. My post was in response to that.

If you want debt you don't need to vote for those guys but it's just your opinion that debt is good. Most people rank the federal debt as a major concern and believe it should be stopped and eliminated.
My position is debt is not inherently bad and is a part of normal government function. Not that it is good to have a lot of it. The level in the US does not count as "a lot" from an economic standpoint - we are not constrained in borrowing from the market nor are we unable to fund the government.

But, paying down the Federal debt is an insane waste of resources that makes no sense from an economic standpoint, especially in a country with anemic economic growth and less than full employment. Paying down the debt means changing the fiscal balance of Federal payments by 4-5% of GDP...that's absolute insanity due to the impact it would have on the economy.

The US government would be much better off gradually lowering the debt as a % of GDP over time through economic growth and a well managed budget with counter-cyclical management of spending and taxation.
 
Conservatives believe that is the one role the federal government must play over ANY other. You don't have to run a deficit to defend the country.
Liberals place many things higher in importance.
But yet conservatives do.
 
Nah it was really a gambling question. Sheldon adelson thinks that's a big deal but I really don't.
I'm pretty sure they asked if it should be regulated. I have no doubt those things are a huge ripoff. They advertise how much money they give away every week. They do NOT talk about how much profit they make every week or how many people win compared to how many lose.
 
I'm pretty sure they asked if it should be regulated. I have no doubt those things are a huge ripoff. They advertise how much money they give away every week. They do NOT talk about how much profit they make every week or how many people win compared to how many lose.
It's more expensive than a sports book for a customer but all of those companies are losing money because of the ad spending

I meant it was a question specific to regulation of gambling, not overall regulation, which is just not a significant discussion point, to me. We had little on Wall Street regulation but we had time for a gambling regulation question???
 
Conservatives believe that is the one role the federal government must play over ANY other. You don't have to run a deficit to defend the country.
Liberals place many things higher in importance.
You need to pay attention to the amount of debt the Pubs have run up when in charge. Unpaid wars seem to do that
 
You need to pay attention to the amount of debt the Pubs have run up when in charge. Unpaid wars seem to do that
#1 change in the debt and deficit over the past 15 years: Bush tax cuts, not war. Bush tax cuts cost the govt an estimated $6 trillion from 2001-2019.

This is the #1 reason the Republican economic proposals are budget destroyers - the level of military spending they want is nothing compared to their desire to give rich people huge tax cuts without paying for them with spending cuts
 
It's more expensive than a sports book for a customer but all of those companies are losing money because of the ad spending

I meant it was a question specific to regulation of gambling, not overall regulation, which is just not a significant discussion point, to me. We had little on Wall Street regulation but we had time for a gambling regulation question???
Why would they keep doing it if they're losing money?
 
Why would they keep doing it if they're losing money?
It's a long term play. Most big public startups like that lose a ton of money at first when they are building out their technology and then their customer base. Uber is still losing money, for instance, as it is still scaling up.
 
You must not be watching the debates or looking at their policy proposals - outside of Rand Paul, deficits are not a real consideration.

The Ds proposals produce lower budget deficits and debts than the R proposals because the Ds are willing to pay for their programs.


That is code for RAISE TAXES.

What we need to do is just get it over with and allow them to take total control of every single thing is our life. That is where it is headed.
 
It's a long term play. Most big public startups like that lose a ton of money at first when they are building out their technology and then their customer base. Uber is still losing money, for instance, as it is still scaling up.
Heck, Amazon still loses money.
 
That is code for RAISE TAXES.

What we need to do is just get it over with and allow them to take total control of every single thing is our life. That is where it is headed.
For the republicans to pay for what they want to do, guess what, they would have to raise taxes too. They are just incredibly dishonest about that point.
 
How exactly do they plan on paying down the debt that they worry so much about? By cutting taxes? I don't see how that will ever lower the debt.
 
How does a company that's been in business that long continue lose money and still have stock holders. I though everybody wanted instant gratification these days.
Because of the way they lose money. They reinvest heavily in their infrastructure. It's not that they lose money on their product.
 
You need to pay attention to the amount of debt the Pubs have run up when in charge. Unpaid wars seem to do that

When did I tout any "pubs"? I named the individuals, you cite a party.
I doubt you would associate Hillary with all "dems".
 
Show me where Rand, Ted and Ben cast votes to increase the debt.
Ben has never held elected office. Easy to say something when you've never actually had to cast a vote.

All of them are for tax cuts that do not pay for themselves.
 
How does a company that's been in business that long continue lose money and still have stock holders. I though everybody wanted instant gratification these days.
Because their stock price keeps going up as their revenue grows. The market views them as a potential monopoly.

It's kind of crazy to me. But it's good for us as customers for now because it is helping keep prices down
 
How exactly do they plan on paying down the debt that they worry so much about? By cutting taxes? I don't see how that will ever lower the debt.
They don't. Notice how most of them don't mention how their policies affect the debt or deficit. They talk about economic growth instead even though their tax proposals are not generally that efficient at generating growth
 
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