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Another incident at a track meet

shoot90draw said:
Can we all just agree that none of us will take legal advice from posters on MoSports? Especially Bosko. The only advice I am ever taking from him are what restaurants in Pittsburgh I should avoid
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Excuse me!? YOU do realize that I was re-elected as a booster club president for over THIRTY YEARS and was never ONCE sued!!! Well, I was never SUCCESSFULLY sued that is. Also, YES!!! I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to give GOOD restaurant advice to ANY of my fellow MoSports posters on places to eat and not eat in ALL of PA!
 
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BoosterBosko said:
Excuse me!? YOU do realize that I was re-elected as a booster club president for over THIRTY YEARS and was never ONCE sued!!! Well, I was never SUCCESSFULLY sued that is. Also, YES!!! I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to give GOOD restaurant advice to ANY of my fellow MoSports posters on places to eat and not eat in ALL of PA!
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WGAS..!
 
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Oh Im sorry. Do you ENJOY eating at places with BAD food, SMALL portions, and is OVER PRICED?? Never mind. DONT answer that question. Because I am sure you do! NICE TRY, CLOWN!
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It's too bad you get charged double when you go out to eat.

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trumanbulldog42 said:
Well thats not nice....I for one am never mean to Bosko!
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Cmon now 42... you don't have to put up with that 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 !!!!!!
 
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That might be the nicest thing you have ever said to me!!!

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After more reporting has come out, surprise surprise, I was correct in my original take. The boy was sitting in a tent that was not his teams tent. When asked to move, he refused. The victim grabbed him to move him, in which case the psychopath reached into his bag and stabbed him in the chest. I'm sure someone will make an idiotic argument so go ahead, but it has become pretty clear what should, and probably will happen. He is looking at 5 to 99 years in prison and I hope it is closer to the 99. People like that do not need to be around the rest of us.
 
trumanbulldog42 said:
After more reporting has come out, surprise surprise, I was correct in my original take. The boy was sitting in a tent that was not his teams tent. When asked to move, he refused. The victim grabbed him to move him, in which case the psychopath reached into his bag and stabbed him in the chest. I'm sure someone will make an idiotic argument so go ahead, but it has become pretty clear what should, and probably will happen. He is looking at 5 to 99 years in prison and I hope it is closer to the 99. People like that do not need to be around the rest of us.
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You're THE MoSports BOT @trumanbulldog42 ! Should ANYONE be surprised about your original takes?
 
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trumanbulldog42 said:
After more reporting has come out, surprise surprise, I was correct in my original take. The boy was sitting in a tent that was not his teams tent. When asked to move, he refused. The victim grabbed him to move him, in which case the psychopath reached into his bag and stabbed him in the chest. I'm sure someone will make an idiotic argument so go ahead, but it has become pretty clear what should, and probably will happen. He is looking at 5 to 99 years in prison and I hope it is closer to the 99. People like that do not need to be around the rest of us.
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As I stated when this thread was just a baby... this is Texas, the perp will get the max !
 
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cardsfan200306 said:
The knife was in the bag which means he had to have an actual thought of retrieval and use, then an action of retrieval and use all while being asked and or told to leave. That means he had a choice between to actions 1 leave, 2 open backpack, grab knife from backpack, 3 use knife on victim.

This gets even worse if it wasn't a fixed blade knife and he had to open the non fixed blade knife.

The intent to kill after thought is there with a reasonable method of exit. Not only is this not self defense but is murder
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I know nothing about Texas law. In Missouri if you believe you ( or a third party)are about to be subject to severe bodily harm or death then the use of deadly force is legally justified. Furthermore even if all 12 jurors believe you had no justification to use deadly force that doesn’t matter and can’t be considered. All that matters is that the person using lethal force believed he was about to be assaulted and severely injured or killed. You don’t even have to wait until the other person actually assaults you, just the fear in your own mind is enough to justify killing someone in self defense in missouri
 
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I know nothing about Texas law. In Missouri if you believe you ( or a third party)are about to be subject to severe bodily harm or death then the use of deadly force is legally justified. Furthermore even if all 12 jurors believe you had no justification to use deadly force that doesn’t matter and can’t be considered. All that matters is that the person using lethal force believed he was about to be assaulted and severely injured or killed. You don’t even have to wait until the other person actually assaults you, just the fear in your own mind is enough to justify killing someone in self defense in missouri
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It seems like it's pretty similar to Missouri law. This is what Texas law says:

Sec. 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.

(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(1) in response to verbal provocation alone;
(2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under Subsection (c);
(3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other;
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the actor; or
(5) if the actor sought an explanation from or discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences with the other person while the actor was:
(A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section 46.02; or
(B) possessing or transporting a weapon in violation of Section 46.05.
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
 
Admittedly, I have not followed the case outside of this thread. But I like this guy's approach and take on the situation. Justice will rightfully be served for what happened. But probably more important is what happens next.

"Something happened just a few miles from home, and it’s been hard to stop thinking about.
Two teenagers—both just 17—came face to face at a school event.
One of them, Austin Metcalf, lost his life.
The other, Karmelo Anthony, now faces the full force of the justice system.

There’s a lot I don’t know about that moment.
But what I do know is that both of these boys were students.
Both were sons.
And both were part of our community.

My own sons are zoned for Memorial High.
They’re tall, athletic, and—like so many young Black boys—often read as intimidating before being understood.
I saw that in Austin.
And I see it in Karmelo too.

That reflection sits with me deeply.
Because this isn’t just about what happened that day—it’s about what happens next.

I believe in justice. But not the kind that only punishes.
Not the kind that rushes to conclusions or leans into fear.

I believe in restorative justice.
The kind that honors grief, but also gives space for growth, for questions, for understanding.
The kind that asks not just what went wrong, but why, and how we can keep it from happening again.

Karmelo is a child.
And like every child, he deserves due process, compassion, and the chance to be seen fully—not flattened into a headline.

Austin’s life mattered deeply.
And his death deserves more than division—it calls us to come together, to reflect, to heal.

My hope is that we can hold space for both loss and accountability.
That we can respond with wisdom, not fear.
That we can choose justice—but do it differently this time.

For Austin.
For Karmelo.
For all our children."
Lee Merritt
 
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r14veer said:
It seems like it's pretty similar to Missouri law. This is what Texas law says:

Sec. 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.

(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(1) in response to verbal provocation alone;
(2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under Subsection (c);
(3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other;
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the actor; or
(5) if the actor sought an explanation from or discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences with the other person while the actor was:
(A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section 46.02; or
(B) possessing or transporting a weapon in violation of Section 46.05.
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
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(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; (AND the right to Self-Defense is toast for our Perp in this case.
 
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No,,,, the way I read the reports he was sitting in the tent minding his own business when the white kid approached him and told him to leave,,,he did not initiate the confrontation
 
blindedbythelight said:
No,,,, the way I read the reports he was sitting in the tent minding his own business when the white kid approached him and told him to leave,,,he did not initiate the confrontation
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every damn time you speak you show ignorance, However if a Repub kid came sitting in the Webb tent and was told to leave and didnt your ass would cry another tune. It was clear provocation by entering a tent from another school and refusing to leave when asked/told to do so.
 
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every damn time you speak you show ignorance, However if a Repub kid came sitting in the Webb tent and was told to leave and didnt your ass would cry another tune. It was clear provocation by entering a tent from another school and refusing to leave when asked/told to do so.
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No,,,,he did not initiate the confrontation
Did any coach or person in authority tell him to leave or was it other students getting in his face???

White kid initiated the verbal confrontation,,and from all reports he stood up and shoved the black kid initiating the physical confrontation.

It’s a terrible thing but it’s not murder

And as long as a kid from Republic or any other school was not being disruptive I could care less where they sit
 
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blindedbythelight said:
No,,,,he did not initiate the confrontation
Did any coach or person in authority tell him to leave or was it other students getting in his face???

White kid initiated the verbal confrontation,,and from all reports he stood up and shoved the black kid initiating the physical confrontation.

It’s a terrible thing but it’s not murder

And as long as a kid from Republic or any other school was not being disruptive I could care less where they sit
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no one said initiate they said provoke, you should know the difference doesn't surprise me you don't.

wow pulling the race card real quick

it is murder

you can lie all you want while some webbies are nice welcoming folks you are not one
 
So, I guess it's been reported that Karmelo Anthony was a track and football star. Held good grades and did not have a history of getting into trouble. Really makes you wonder why did he put that knife into his back pack?
 
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BoosterBosko said:
So, I guess it's been reported that Karmelo Anthony was a track and football star. Held good grades and did not have a history of getting into trouble. Really makes you wonder why did he put that knife into his back pack?
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It's also almost like none of that matters at all lol......They said the same thing about the chick that tried to give the other girl brain damage with a baton. You can keep being a psychopath under wraps for only so long before it comes out!!
 
trumanbulldog42 said:
It's also almost like none of that matters at all lol......They said the same thing about the chick that tried to give the other girl brain damage with a baton. You can keep being a psychopath under wraps for only so long before it comes out!!
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Is it psychopath or sociopath?

psychopath - a person having an egocentric and antisocial personality marked by a lack of remorse for one's actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies
sociopath - a person exhibiting a pattern of behavior characterized by a disregard for social norms, the rights of others, and a lack of remorse or empathy

But luckily, its not up to us regarding the victim's nor suspect's sports, educational, nor criminal/behavioral background. Its up to the jury
 
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