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Another incident at a track meet

1 have you seen murder qeapon because I have not.
2 your assumptions are what takes your credibility away. This is not the first incident that I have spoken on where a kid was wrong or a kid was harmed, furthermore I don't let the media tell.me how to think, I have my own thoughts and opinions you should try that instead of regurgitating every talk point you hear from people who align with your views.
3 there has been Noone at this time attempt to bring validity to the families claim of self defense.

While this is a fluid situation and facts will be revealed later that can change my opinion it is clear that you lack that ability.

Last but not least way to go on a personal attack to avoid acknowledging you don't care about murdered kids. However your lack of acknowledgement just confirmed it.
Snowflake
 
I really am struggling to realize why you are trying to defend someone for using a knife to stab someone in the chest when there were at most in a scuffle. If you were having the absolute shite beat out of you, you would not have the ability to get into your bag, grab a knife, and then use that knife to stab someone directly in the heart. Stop it with your nonsense
It was self defense.

It's a stand your ground case.
 
Oh, nvm, you're right, next time someone shoves you in Texas then you should just stab them in the chest and see how far that gets you
 
Also, just so you know, the term thug comes from India so if you are trying to make this into a race thing or something than you can stop that nonsense as well
I'm not bringing race into it. Just facts.

Under the current Texas stand your ground law the kid will walk. He was there legally and it doesn't take much to see he could have feared for his life given the size of the participants.

Guess all those texas FAFO guys aren't yapping so much now.
 
Real men don't use knives!
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I'm not bringing race into it. Just facts.

Under the current Texas stand your ground law the kid will walk. He was there legally and it doesn't take much to see he could have feared for his life given the size of the participants.

Guess all those texas FAFO guys aren't yapping so much now.
Ok, so you should probably understand the law before yapping about dumb stuff on here unless you are just trying to troll us (which I'm hoping is the case, otherwise you are just making yourself look dumb). In order for the stand your ground law to apply, the stabbing in the chest has to be justified as a means to avoid severe injury or death. If he was in a "scuffle" which is what was reported, then that is not a justified use of force, even in a "stand your ground" state. Look it up or shut up
 
Ok, so you should probably understand the law before yapping about dumb stuff on here unless you are just trying to troll us (which I'm hoping is the case, otherwise you are just making yourself look dumb). In order for the stand your ground law to apply, the stabbing in the chest has to be justified as a means to avoid severe injury or death. If he was in a "scuffle" which is what was reported, then that is not a justified use of force, even in a "stand your ground" state. Look it up or shut up
dude outweighed him by 50 pounds and was going to play college football.
And his twin brother was involved.

Facts.

If you take your emotion out of this you'll see the same things.
 
dude outweighed him by 50 pounds and was going to play college football.
And his twin brother was involved.

Facts.

If you take your emotion out of this you'll see the same things.
Ok, I'm done arguing with idiocy. Have fun being wrong unless the facts are very different from what is being reported. Also, if you are not emotional about a high school student being stabbed and killed for what amounts to less than a school yard fight, there is something wrong with you. Every single one of us in this chat room would be dead or would have killed someone by the time we left high school if this were the case. Literally everyone who picked on me growing up outweighed me by 50 lbs or more. I would have been justified in stabbing and killing exactly zero of them or I would have a body count of at least 5 (not the good kind of body count either).
 
Intent at time of placing knife is irrelevant due to intent at time of retrieval.
Its actually not irrelevant. Rather quite the opposite. The entire case can vary pretty widely if it can be proven the suspect went to the track meet with the intent on using that knife to cause harm. That's actually where it all begins at
 
Ok, I'm done arguing with idiocy. Have fun being wrong unless the facts are very different from what is being reported. Also, if you are not emotional about a high school student being stabbed and killed for what amounts to less than a school yard fight, there is something wrong with you. Every single one of us in this chat room would be dead or would have killed someone by the time we left high school if this were the case. Literally everyone who picked on me growing up outweighed me by 50 lbs or more. I would have been justified in stabbing and killing exactly zero of them or I would have a body count of at least 5 (not the good kind of body count either).
Im just quoting the law and it appears it will apply here.

Blame Texas and other states that thought stand your ground was a good idea.
 
Its actually not irrelevant. Rather quite the opposite. The entire case can vary pretty widely if it can be proven the suspect went to the track meet with the intent on using that knife to cause harm. That's actually where it all begins at
You are assuming that knife was placed that day, maybe it had been there for weeks or months. That's why I say it's irrelevant and much easier to stand on intent at time which was killing someone instead of walking away.
 
Im just quoting the law and it appears it will apply here.

Blame Texas and other states that thought stand your ground was a good idea.
When he was told to leave, Anthony immediately opened his bag, reached in, and told the victim "touch me and see what happens," according to a witness.

When Metcalf pushed Anthony, a witness said Anthony unexpectedly pulled a black knife from the bag, stabbed Metcalf in the chest and ran away.



That is a quote from the news report.....you're right.....sounds like he was justified.....
 
When he was told to leave, Anthony immediately opened his bag, reached in, and told the victim "touch me and see what happens," according to a witness.

When Metcalf pushed Anthony, a witness said Anthony unexpectedly pulled a black knife from the bag, stabbed Metcalf in the chest and ran away.



That is a quote from the news report.....you're right.....sounds like he was justified.....
There were witnesses that told different stories.

Again i'm just telling you the law and you guys are bent out of shape about it.
 
You are assuming that knife was placed that day, maybe it had been there for weeks or months. That's why I say it's irrelevant and much easier to stand on intent at time which was killing someone instead of walking away.
That's right. The knife could have been put in the back pack 5 years ago. He could have put in that morning because he was going fishing after the track meet. Again, it all comes back to why did he put that knife in his back pack? To cause harm to other humans or skin fish?
 
There were witnesses that told different stories.

Again i'm just telling you the law and you guys are bent out of shape about it.
You do realize that the school has strict regulations against having any knives or other weapons on any district properties right? I'm sure that makes a difference, does it not?
 
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There were witnesses that told different stories.

Again i'm just telling you the law and you guys are bent out of shape about it.
I just looked up the law, so if you just want to go by the law which is what you say you are doing. The only way the stand your ground defense can be used is if you are not currently committing a criminal offense. Since, he was illegally carrying a weapon in a prohibited area on school grounds. It nullifies the defense. So it is highly unlikely they can use that defense. Thank you and have a nice day.
 
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I just looked up the law, so if you just want to go by the law which is what you say you are doing. The only way the stand your ground defense can be used is if you are not currently committing a criminal offense. Since, he was illegally carrying a weapon in a prohibited area on school grounds. It nullifies the defense. So it is highly unlikely they can use that defense. Thank you and have a nice day.
Except he wasn't illegally carrying a weapon.

In texas you can take knives to school.
 
That's right. The knife could have been put in the back pack 5 years ago. He could have put in that morning because he was going fishing after the track meet. Again, it all comes back to why did he put that knife in his back pack? To cause harm to other humans or skin fish?
" I live in an urban area and feel unsafe your honor. It's there for protection".
 
Except he wasn't illegally carrying a weapon.

In texas you can take knives to school.
Dude, you are literally wrong. All you have to do is look it up......it's called a computer, you're probably on one now, and if you aren't, you probably have a smart phone in your hands. So, you can do it a couple of ways. You can use Google (it's an app on almost every phone) or even an AI (stands for artificial intelligence) and you can type in a question or look up key phrases. This will give you an answer when you do not know something and you do not want to appear stupid when you probably are not and you are just misinformed. I hope this helps!
 
Dude, you are literally wrong. All you have to do is look it up......it's called a computer, you're probably on one now, and if you aren't, you probably have a smart phone in your hands. So, you can do it a couple of ways. You can use Google (it's an app on almost every phone) or even an AI (stands for artificial intelligence) and you can type in a question or look up key phrases. This will give you an answer when you do not know something and you do not want to appear stupid when you probably are not and you are just misinformed. I hope this helps!
what you don't realize is I don't go down these rabbit holes without looking up my info.

House Bill 1935, effective September 1, 2017, revised knife laws in Texas. Texans can carry many types of knives, but knives over 5.5 inches are location-restricted. Restricted locations include schools, government buildings, and certain bars.


You don't have to apologize.

Will this come down to if the knife is 5.25 or 5.75?

Maybe.

It's an obvious stand your ground case though. Just not how the usual stand your ground proponents pictured.


that's why people are being all snowflakey about it.
 
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what you don't realize is I don't go down these rabbit holes without looking up my info.

House Bill 1935, effective September 1, 2017, revised knife laws in Texas. Texans can carry many types of knives, but knives over 5.5 inches are location-restricted. Restricted locations include schools, government buildings, and certain bars.


You don't have to apologize.

Will this come down to if the knife is 5.25 or 5.75?

Maybe.

It's an obvious stand your ground case though. Just not how the usual stand your ground proponents pictured.


that's why people are being all snowflakey about it.
I really don't see how it will end with him walking cause it is shaky ground no matter what from all the laws and everything I've read. I am always capable of eating my words but I don't think I will have to in this one. If he does walk, it is a grave mistake by our justice system.
 
I really don't see how it will end with him walking cause it is shaky ground no matter what from all the laws and everything I've read. I am always capable of eating my words but I don't think I will have to in this one. If he does walk, it is a grave mistake by our justice system.
You don't know the specifics yet you claim it would be a grave mistake.

Listen to yourself.

By Texas law, the kid SHOULD most likely walk from what I've heard so far.

Who knows how it will turn out.
 
You don't know the specifics yet you claim it would be a grave mistake.

Listen to yourself.

By Texas law, the kid SHOULD most likely walk from what I've heard so far.

Who knows how it will turn out.
Ok, so I do not know the specifics well enough to make a judgement but YOU do? good job not making any sense
 
Im just quoting the law and it appears it will apply here.

Blame Texas and other states that thought stand your ground was a good idea.
Self defense law in Texas states the defendant can only use force proportional to the force being used against him. Him stabbing someone for shoving him is not proportional. Also the burden of proof for a self defense claim is on the defendant, not the prosecution.

As far as intent, intent can be formed in a second. Prosecution doesn’t have to prove when the defendant left for the track meet he intended to kill someone. As soon as the defendant reached into his bag for the knife, he intended to do great bodily harm.
 
Self defense law in Texas states the defendant can only use force proportional to the force being used against him. Him stabbing someone for shoving him is not proportional. Also the burden of proof for a self defense claim is on the defendant, not the prosecution.

As far as intent, intent can be formed in a second. Prosecution doesn’t have to prove when the defendant left for the track meet he intended to kill someone. As soon as the defendant reached into his bag for the knife, he intended to do great bodily harm.
Self defense
 
Self defense law in Texas states the defendant can only use force proportional to the force being used against him. Him stabbing someone for shoving him is not proportional. Also the burden of proof for a self defense claim is on the defendant, not the prosecution.

As far as intent, intent can be formed in a second. Prosecution doesn’t have to prove when the defendant left for the track meet he intended to kill someone. As soon as the defendant reached into his bag for the knife, he intended to do great bodily harm.
We've tried reasoning with him. He's just trolling at this point. Trollers gonna troll!
 
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