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Republican presidential icon Ronald Reagan imposed his own national healthcare mandate on the country. The mandate is well know today -- it requires emergency rooms to treat anyone in need, regardless of their ability to pay -- but the fact that Reagan signed it into law is often forgotten.
As Governor., the dude signed the bill legalizing abortion in California. He was for it until he was told to be against it.

Hospitals across America are struggling but let’s blame immigrants for one any way.
 
As Governor., the dude signed the bill legalizing abortion in California. He was for it until he was told to be against it.

Hospitals across America are struggling but let’s blame immigrants for one any way.
I hate to say this but will anyway. A cousin of mine worked construction. Made enough that he could have, should have had health insurance. He went into a StL hospital for some procedure, can't recall what. I saw him outside the hospital, IV in tow and smoking a cigarette. He said they just told him he owed $40k and his comment was no way I'm going to pay that. Knowing him he probably escaped without any payment.
And he was a tRUMPER!
Lots of issues contribute to medical debt in this country.
 
Reagan also granted amnesty to 3 mIllion illegal aliens living in the US and the promise to close the border on illegal entry. We never did shut the door. There is a legal way to emigrate to the US.
 
I thought I had corrected that G typo but guess I forgot to save it...lol

A wise general (not Flynn) once said that you shouldn't be in a war unless you want to win it. And I am not sure if we are in it to win in Ukraine. Lots of money yes. I guess it's more of the bull$hit they fed us during Vietnam. Fight'em there so we don't have to fight'em here.

Do you think Putin will stop if he prevails in Ukraine?

I don't know if we are REALLY in the Ukraine war to win it. If Russian wins, I guess they will own the rebuild and if Ukraine wins....h,mmm guess who.
I understand to a degree why we are pumping some money into Ukraine..... It's a small percentage of our over all military budget, it is weakening Putin and China to a degree. It also let's China know we will do the same if they decide to expand to let's say Taiwan. But at best this will just be a stalemate and as I said a protracted drawn out war with zero end. Putin will probably start pressuring his allies to join in the war as well. This whole thing could escalate in a hurry. The Big Z in Ukraine already wants weapons to attack Russian forces and instillations inside of Russian Territory.......
Another issue is this administration has no exit strategy it appears, see the Afghanistan, they seem to be flying by the seat of their pants. And at some point if this thing is going to end NATO is going to have to sit down and make nice with Putin and agree to some kind of deal that is palatable to both sides.

In the end you are right we will end of footing the bill on the rebuild and the one Fact in this whole thing is that the Ukraine is full of corruption and money shifting. I wonder how many millions of the Billions we are sending is being funneled away from the War effort into the coffers of Big Z cronies?
 
As Governor., the dude signed the bill legalizing abortion in California. He was for it until he was told to be against it.

Hospitals across America are struggling but let’s blame immigrants for one any way.
Yes hospitals are struggling.... it's bad enough we have to pay for our own lazy and shiftless.... so why the Heck are we paying for a bunch of illegals who have zero right to be in this country and are clearly criminals breaking the law.

So yes we should be blaming illegals for a lot of the problem.... And no we should not blame legal Immigrants. They have the Legal right to be here per the law.
 
Sending a bunch to the vice president's house is petty.
Funny and Ironic. She is in control of the Boarder and suppose to be fixing the Problem. Clearly she is incapable and is a simpleton.

Maybe if she actually see's and experiences the situation she might be motivated to take action.
 
It’s called a border. GOP had total control of the government for Trump’s first two years and were so consumed with stealing military money to start a wall they didn’t pass any laws to fix immigration at all.

Here is the complicated reality. It's not Biden’s fault that so many people want to come to the United States. There was a big jump in border encounters under Trump as well, from 310K in 2017 to 859K in 2019.

We're starved for workers. We have backlogs of vetted immigrants, asylum-seekers w/credible claims, refugees who would gratefully accept jobs in this country.

But our politics is poisoned by the demagogues who speak of immigrants as 'invaders' and warn of catastrophe if we don’t close our border. Not only are they deceiving their audience, they're coarsening it by inviting them to enjoy the suffering of others. And you swallow it all like a Tinder dream date.
 
IF only we can keep the criminals out. The drug trafficking, human trafficking, cartels, street gangs and petty criminals are running rampant right now in all cities along the border. All these people entering have no job or home, they aren't being given rubber stamped work visas or citizenship, and it's still a crime to hire undocumented workers.

It's easy to dismiss the criminal element. Out of sight, out of mind. But many places in border states are much more dangerous than they were 10-20 years ago. Just ask any Texan.
 
Big Difference.... the Indians fought and lost. They where a conquered people simple as that. No guilt for conquering a weaker civilization that is the History of Human Kind. It's the ultimate in evolution and advancement.

We are self inflicting this disease upon our selves. We could easily control immigration most other countries do.
hmmm thanks Putin...
 
Funny and Ironic. She is in control of the Boarder and suppose to be fixing the Problem. Clearly she is incapable and is a simpleton.

Maybe if she actually see's and experiences the situation she might be motivated to take action.
Glad you find a political stunt funny.
 
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It’s called a border. GOP had total control of the government for Trump’s first two years and were so consumed with stealing military money to start a wall they didn’t pass any laws to fix immigration at all.

Here is the complicated reality. It's not Biden’s fault that so many people want to come to the United States. There was a big jump in border encounters under Trump as well, from 310K in 2017 to 859K in 2019.

We're starved for workers. We have backlogs of vetted immigrants, asylum-seekers w/credible claims, refugees who would gratefully accept jobs in this country.

But our politics is poisoned by the demagogues who speak of immigrants as 'invaders' and warn of catastrophe if we don’t close our border. Not only are they deceiving their audience, they're coarsening it by inviting them to enjoy the suffering of others. And you swallow it all like a Tinder dream date.
That is a complete misrepresentation of what I have posted on this board, I want a orderly and controlled immigration policy that vet's people coming into the country. I am even for a guest worker program that identifies and tracks those workers during their stay and allows for citizenship.

Trump at least tried to control the boarder but was fought tooth and nail by the Democrats to demonize his policies as racist and environmentally unsound.

Closing the boarder to unfettered immigration of illegals is not Stopping Legal Immigration at all.

And what the heck is a Tinder Dream? You lost me on that.
 
hmmm thanks Putin...
Can you dispute the history of the World? Nope. The Natives of this continent where ripe for the picking by a More technologically advanced Civilization. Simple as that. The people indigenous to this continent had no formal national govt., and by no means met the criteria of a sovereign nation or nations. A lose collection of City states in South America and Hunter gather tribes in North America by no means is a valid nation. So nope our landing on the shores and becoming the dominate Culture is by no means like Putin invading a Sovereign and World Wide recognized country.

I get it people in America have some strange soft spot for Native Americans because they have been romanticized in the Media/Literature etc. But the truth is many of them where just as war like and aggressive as the Europeans, they had no written langue and where technologically inferior. It was inevitable that they would be conquered and assimilated. This is the way of things..... it's human nature.

This is no different than the Homo Sapiens displacing the Neanderthal as the Dominate Species of Humans.

I do understand on a emotional level it tugs at the heart strings..... I mean Kevin Constner built his career on Dances with Wolves.... and James Cameron has made Billions off of Avatar all emotional drivel(that I enjoy) that simplifies the context and history of things to paint Black & White situations in Technological society's that encounter inferior hunter gather cultures.

The Truth is much more complex and interesting although it doesn't paint the Colonizers always as the villains so it's not palatable in this day and age.

I see no reason to apologize or feel guilt over my European Ancestors doing what human kind has always done from the dawn of time.
 
Glad you find a political stunt funny.
Wasn't a Stunt and it was very funny because it exposed the ineptness of the VP and Biden's Policies. It's about time the Elite's of the World have to deal with the problems they ignore and create.
 
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How was I callous Abbot was moving them to a Sanctuary City with Resources and a Place where they are Welcomed. The Elites in Wash. DC have $$$$$$ they are much better equipped to deal with illegals than the small rural towns with minimal $$$ who are just able to take care of the taxpayers they support let alone a wave illegals thrown on the streets.

Who is the Callous human being and Sickening.... Me or Toots who wants the illegals to be hidden and out of site out of mind in resource poor area's or the Person who support transporting these illegals to resource rich environments with plenty of $$$ to take care of them and their plight!!

I get it toots you'd rather have those human lives suffer in silence and be a burden on the American Citizens than have those lives taken care of properly and the Party You support look like incompetent buffoons for their lack of actions and decisions.
 
How was I callous Abbot was moving them to a Sanctuary City with Resources and a Place where they are Welcomed. The Elites in Wash. DC have $$$$$$ they are much better equipped to deal with illegals than the small rural towns with minimal $$$ who are just able to take care of the taxpayers they support let alone a wave illegals thrown on the streets.

Who is the Callous human being and Sickening.... Me or Toots who wants the illegals to be hidden and out of site out of mind in resource poor area's or the Person who support transporting these illegals to resource rich environments with plenty of $$$ to take care of them and their plight!!

I get it toots you'd rather have those human lives suffer in silence and be a burden on the American Citizens than have those lives taken care of properly and the Party You support look like incompetent buffoons for their lack of actions and decisions.
Why didn't they move them to Pence's house while they were in office? Harris is not my fav by a long shot but she is busy taking care of boarders!
 
She is not taking care of the boarders that is so not close to the reality of the situation.... The levels of illegal immigration hit a 20 year high. And the Trump/Pence administration was actively working to fix the issue unlike the Biden/Harris Administration who is doing very little. So why would the ship the flood of illegals to Pence's residence?


And while the MSM has focused on illegal Families and their plight because this angle is the most emotionally manipulative to get people on board with the Open Boarder belief. Guess what accounted for more than half the apprehensions? SINGLE ADULTS! Not poor suffering families.
 
She is not taking care of the boarders that is so not close to the reality of the situation.... The levels of illegal immigration hit a 20 year high. And the Trump/Pence administration was actively working to fix the issue unlike the Biden/Harris Administration who is doing very little. So why would the ship the flood of illegals to Pence's residence?


And while the MSM has focused on illegal Families and their plight because this angle is the most emotionally manipulative to get people on board with the Open Boarder belief. Guess what accounted for more than half the apprehensions? SINGLE ADULTS! Not poor suffering families.
BORDERS! The word is borders, a boarder is someone staying your home. You educated people wear me out!
 
I'm sure MG meant that since the immigrants are living at the border then they are boarding at the border, and, thus, they are technically boarders at the border. A man with such superior intellect could not possibly make such a simple mistake!!🤣🤣😂😆🤓🧐😝😜🤪
 
I'm sure MG meant that since the immigrants are living at the border then they are boarding at the border, and, thus, they are technically boarders at the border. A man with such superior intellect could not possibly make such a simple mistake!!🤣🤣😂😆🤓🧐😝😜🤪
He repeats it over and over, and uses he 'a' when it should be 'an' but he tells that has nothing to do with how smart a person is or how much education they have. I guess that extra letter is too hard to type. I'd bet he doesn't say a when it should be an when talking to others. Just plain laziness in my book.
 
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I can hardly wait for his protracted dissertation with numerous accompanying articles to legitimize the use of synonyms in informal composition.
 
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I'm sure MG meant that since the immigrants are living at the border then they are boarding at the border, and, thus, they are technically boarders at the border. A man with such superior intellect could not possibly make such a simple mistake!!🤣🤣😂😆🤓🧐😝😜🤪
Hi might have been thinking that since they dropped some immigrants off at Harris' house they were going to be boarders!
 
BORDERS! The word is borders, a boarder is someone staying your home. You educated people wear me out!
Wow why does a occasional misspelled word wear you out? It happens to everyone. I find it ironic that you get so emotional over a simple error in grammar. I understand that your personality has a overt need to compensate for certain things, but please spare us the Grammar Nazi schtick. It's laughable.
 
I'm sure MG meant that since the immigrants are living at the border then they are boarding at the border, and, thus, they are technically boarders at the border. A man with such superior intellect could not possibly make such a simple mistake!!🤣🤣😂😆🤓🧐😝😜🤪
I'm not gonna toots it up with Bs excuses.... I make grammatic errors on occasion as I pointed out to 3RN errors happen all the time. I could waste my time combing through mistakes in syntax and grammar and then point them out in a effort to distract from the OP or issue being debated but that is so low brow and beneath anyone with the acuity above the sophomore level of maturity that I refrain from doing so. Others tend to live for that type of thing when they have little to add to the discourse at hand.
 
He repeats it over and over, and uses he 'a' when it should be 'an' but he tells that has nothing to do with how smart a person is or how much education they have. I guess that extra letter is too hard to type. I'd bet he doesn't say a when it should be an when talking to others. Just plain laziness in my book.
I freely told you in another thread that it was part laziness. Posting to a Message board during my free time at work after I have my Charting and analysis finished at work is a nice stress relief. I'm not going to proof read a message board post that is off the cuff and sometimes posted in haste between duties.

Oh by the way... it's the 'a' not he 'a' so .... sorry put my toe in the sophomore pool ... it's not like you don't blow a few here or there. But if it it makes you feel big and important you can grammatic Nazi away, it reflects a lot on you and the others because if that's all you got to combat basic logic then so be it.
 
Wow why does a occasional misspelled word wear you out? It happens to everyone. I find it ironic that you get so emotional over a simple error in grammar. I understand that your personality has a overt need to compensate for certain things, but please spare us the Grammar Nazi schtick. It's laughable.
It's NOT an occasional thing with you and the words I mentioned. Everybody does it sometimes, those things you do EVERY TIME. It's pure and simple laziness on your part with those words, but maybe you don't really know the difference in a border and a boarder!
Just exactly what things would I be compensating for?
 
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You feel because you don't have a formal education at a higher level that you must even the scale by pointing out mundane occasional misspellings. It's pretty obvious.... and not needed. Some of the most narrow minded and close minded people around are the people with the most papers and credentials. They become very dogmatic and unbending.

And yes clearly I know the difference in a border of a country and a boarder at a Flop house or Boarding house.
 
You feel because you don't have a formal education at a higher level that you must even the scale by pointing out mundane occasional misspellings. It's pretty obvious.... and not needed. Some of the most narrow minded and close minded people around are the people with the most papers and credentials. They become very dogmatic and unbending.

And yes clearly I know the difference in a border of a country and a boarder at a Flop house or Boarding house.
Then fix your goofy mistakes, it is NOT just a random spelling error on your part. I don't give rats ass about a formal education at a higher level. I made decent living and have a decent retirement from the RR and it didn't cost me or my parents dime to get it. I probably got a better education in life working for a living than most folks that went to college and have 2 or 3 degrees.
 
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I think you just described yourself
I'm unbending on only a couple of things.... the Constitution and the Bill of Rights hence my stance on the Second Amendment. And I'm unbending on the Freedom of the Individual. Often that Principle belief is at odds with what I think is good sense or humane. I support the Legalization of Drugs for that Reason, the right to a Abortion or not to Vax as well. That is not being closed minded that is making a logical choice that over rides a otherwise emotional one.
 
Then fix your goofy mistakes, it is NOT just a random spelling error on your part. I don't give rats ass about a formal education at a higher level. I made decent living and have a decent retirement from the RR and it didn't cost me or my parents dime to get it. I probably got a better education in life working for a living than most folks that went to college and have 2 or 3 degrees.
Why would I waste my precious time to proof read a few random grammatical errors on a meaningless message board that doesn't effect the overall narrative and point of the post?
 
Why would I waste my precious time to proof read a few random grammatical errors on a meaningless message board that doesn't effect the overall narrative and point of the post?
You just don't get it do you? The things I have mentioned that you are absolutely NOT random errors, you do it over and over. I don't think I've ever seen anybody that thinks more highly of himself than you. You sure post on this "meaningless" site a lot for guy whose time is so precious. I guess when you're doing on your time at work it's not as precious. 🤔
 
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Again why do you assume I think so highly of myself? Give examples please of where I have overtly displayed those character traits?

I point out Facts, Data, Logical analysis, and provide the links and supporting evidence to give weight and strength to my ideas and opinions. And you perceive this as thinking highly of myself? I understand that those points might run contrary to your beliefs and desired ideas of how things should be or how you want them to be and that the data often causes internal conflict as they are at odds with what you want to believe but that has nothing to do with what I think of myself. As I stated I'm just a average joe with average intellect.


And yes I post on this site and yes my time is precious and wasting it doing a extensive proof reading is a waste of time. To you I guess it's not and it sure seems to be a burr in your saddle for what ever reason. I try to focus on the narrative of peoples post. I leave being the Grammar Nazi up to those who don't want to engage in a spirited discourse of ideas.
 
Again why do you assume I think so highly of myself? Give examples please of where I have overtly displayed those character traits?

I point out Facts, Data, Logical analysis, and provide the links and supporting evidence to give weight and strength to my ideas and opinions. And you perceive this as thinking highly of myself? I understand that those points might run contrary to your beliefs and desired ideas of how things should be or how you want them to be and that the data often causes internal conflict as they are at odds with what you want to believe but that has nothing to do with what I think of myself. As I stated I'm just a average joe with average intellect.


And yes I post on this site and yes my time is precious and wasting it doing a extensive proof reading is a waste of time. To you I guess it's not and it sure seems to be a burr in your saddle for what ever reason. I try to focus on the narrative of peoples post. I leave being the Grammar Nazi up to those who don't want to engage in a spirited discourse of ideas.
You really do have to have everything your own way... don't you !
 
Again why do you assume I think so highly of myself? Give examples please of where I have overtly displayed those character traits?

I point out Facts, Data, Logical analysis, and provide the links and supporting evidence to give weight and strength to my ideas and opinions. And you perceive this as thinking highly of myself? I understand that those points might run contrary to your beliefs and desired ideas of how things should be or how you want them to be and that the data often causes internal conflict as they are at odds with what you want to believe but that has nothing to do with what I think of myself. As I stated I'm just a average joe with average intellect.


And yes I post on this site and yes my time is precious and wasting it doing a extensive proof reading is a waste of time. To you I guess it's not and it sure seems to be a burr in your saddle for what ever reason. I try to focus on the narrative of peoples post. I leave being the Grammar Nazi up to those who don't want to engage in a spirited discourse of ideas.
You certainly enjoyed pointing out the typo I made.....Giller instead of Killer!
 
Again why do you assume I think so highly of myself? Give examples please of where I have overtly displayed those character traits?

I point out Facts, Data, Logical analysis, and provide the links and supporting evidence to give weight and strength to my ideas and opinions. And you perceive this as thinking highly of myself? I understand that those points might run contrary to your beliefs and desired ideas of how things should be or how you want them to be and that the data often causes internal conflict as they are at odds with what you want to believe but that has nothing to do with what I think of myself. As I stated I'm just a average joe with average intellect.


And yes I post on this site and yes my time is precious and wasting it doing a extensive proof reading is a waste of time. To you I guess it's not and it sure seems to be a burr in your saddle for what ever reason. I try to focus on the narrative of peoples post. I leave being the Grammar Nazi up to those who don't want to engage in a spirited discourse of ideas.
Because what you do is not just spelling and grammar errors like you keep claiming. It's the same stuff over and over while you go to great lengths to tell us how much education and how many degrees you have and speak of MY lack of such an education over and over. Why wouldn't I point how much you are stuck on yourself? Your political views have nothing to do with it!
 
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