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All D1 Talent in Missouri is from St. Louis...

mowesten said:
Lucky for us there are people who actively keep track of such things:

— The data used is simply active players on NFL rosters. It doesn't speak to the quality of the player. A lot of that is subjective anyway.

— There are 28 active players in the NFL from Missouri. That number is 19th overall, exactly where it should be as the 18th most populated state.

— There are 14 players from schools that I would consider commonly referred to as STL-area schools.

— There are nine players from schools that I would consider Kansas City area schools.

— The rest of the state, including Jefferson City, Rogersville, Lebanon, etc., has five.

— For context, Miami has 41 players currently in the NFL from just 18 different schools. Miami, population 463,000, and Kansas City, population 488,000, essentially has the same population.

Belle Glades Central a public school just north of the Everglades, with an enrollment of 992, in a city of 17,000, has had 23 players in the NFL and currently has five.

The small agricultural communities in central and south Florida (Homestead, Immokolee, etc.,etc.) consistently produce more football talent than any other place in the country per population.

Those communities are also among the poorest in Florida.

That's the raw data.

My theory on outdoor athletics and successful athletes is simple, hard times + warm weather = tough athletes.

That's true in football where the poorest communities in the south produce a lot more talented athletes than their more comfortable counterparts in the north.

And it's true in a sport like baseball where small island countries with small populations and virtually no resources, produce more than a quarter of all the players in MLB.

It's true in track and field where small island countries do considerably well given their population in comparrison to their counterparts at the Olympics.

And, while I know less about it, the same probably true in a sport like soccer as well.
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Your pop numbers for KC mean nothing. It is a metro area with 2.1 Million.
 
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Track and Field GIF, please, Kane! :):)
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Evan Boehm- Lee's Summit West Titans. Not the Lee's Summit Tigers.

JNreturns said:
But....um....these current NFL players aren't:

Beau Brinkly (of the NFL Titans), Kearney, MO Bulldogs
Will Compton (of the Oakland Raider) North County HS
Xavier Williams ( of the KC Chiefs) Grandview, MO Bulldogs
Drew Lock (of the Denver Bronos) Lee's Summit Tiger
Devonte Bausby (of the Denver Broncos) Hogan Prep
Even Boehm ( of the Miami Dolphins) Lee's Summit Tiger
Charles Harris (of the Miami Dolphins) Lincoln Prep, Blue Tiger
*Edited. Justin Britt, (Seattle Seahawks) Lebanon, MO

And three-time NCAA D1 National Champ, and Super Bowl Champion, Grant Wistrom (Webb City Cardinal) just called....he was laughing out loud.
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Also from North County and my subdivision:

Drew Forbes
i

  • HT/WT
    6' 5", 308 lbs
  • DOB
    1/18/1997 (22)
  • COLLEGE
    SE Missouri St

    Bonne Terre is in St Francois County, 2 counties south of St Louis County. Not really in the metro area.
 
Duck_walk said:
Also from North County and my subdivision:

Drew Forbes
i

  • HT/WT
    6' 5", 308 lbs
  • DOB
    1/18/1997 (22)
  • COLLEGE
    SE Missouri St

    Bonne Terre is in St Francois County, 2 counties south of St Louis County. Not really in the metro area.
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Do you get your local news from St. Louis stations or KFVS12 out of Cape? If it's St. Louis stations you're in the metro area.
 
Veerman_12 said:
Do you get your local news from St. Louis stations or KFVS12 out of Cape? If it's St. Louis stations you're in the metro area.
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I get both. Didn’t realize TV stations determined geography. If you ask people down here where they live, they will say in a small town 60 miles south of STL. They won’t say they live in the STL metro area. But carry on, bruh.
 
Duck_walk said:
I get both. Didn’t realize TV stations determined geography. If you ask people down here where they live, they will say in a small town 60 miles south of STL. They won’t say they live in the STL metro area. But carry on, bruh.
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Hey even that post that divided the state into sections put everything north of Farmington as "St. Louis".
 
Cool story bro. KC glory days are over. You’re just going to have to deal with the fact the rest of the state has caught up.
 
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STL_Dan said:
NoCo is not 45 mins outside of StL. Less than half that.
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bahahahaha

Are you in a jet?

It takes 46 minutes to get from Bonne Terre to the Arnold Water tower if you are driving above the speed limit. It’s another 20+ minutes to downtown.
 
He's not from STL or KC then again they didn't think he was D1 Talent either....
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mowesten said:
Lucky for us there are people who actively keep track of such things:

— The data used is simply active players on NFL rosters. It doesn't speak to the quality of the player. A lot of that is subjective anyway.

— There are 28 active players in the NFL from Missouri. That number is 19th overall, exactly where it should be as the 18th most populated state.

— There are 14 players from schools that I would consider commonly referred to as STL-area schools.

— There are nine players from schools that I would consider Kansas City area schools.

— The rest of the state, including Jefferson City, Rogersville, Lebanon, etc., has five.

— For context, Miami has 41 players currently in the NFL from just 18 different schools. Miami, population 463,000, and Kansas City, population 488,000, essentially has the same population.

Belle Glades Central a public school just north of the Everglades, with an enrollment of 992, in a city of 17,000, has had 23 players in the NFL and currently has five.

The small agricultural communities in central and south Florida (Homestead, Immokolee, etc.,etc.) consistently produce more football talent than any other place in the country per population.

Those communities are also among the poorest in Florida.

That's the raw data.

My theory on outdoor athletics and successful athletes is simple, hard times + warm weather = tough athletes.

That's true in football where the poorest communities in the south produce a lot more talented athletes than their more comfortable counterparts in the north.

And it's true in a sport like baseball where small island countries with small populations and virtually no resources, produce more than a quarter of all the players in MLB.

It's true in track and field where small island countries do considerably well given their population in comparrison to their counterparts at the Olympics.

And, while I know less about it, the same probably true in a sport like soccer as well.
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so PER USUAL: JN is loud and Wrong
 
Duck_walk said:
bahahahaha

Are you in a jet?

It takes 46 minutes to get from Bonne Terre to the Arnold Water tower if you are driving above the speed limit. It’s another 20+ minutes to downtown.
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The drive from, say, Hazelwood East HS in NoCo to Busch Stadium downtown is 20 mins.

Arnold isn't in NoCo. It's south.
 
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STL_Dan said:
The drive from, say, Hazelwood East HS in NoCo to Busch Stadium downtown is 20 mins.

Arnold isn't in NoCo. It's south.
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You guys are confusing Ferguson, Florissant, Ucity, Jennings etc versus North County in St Francis County, where there is a HS actually called North County (the little brother to Farmington and Park Hills Central in football).

Get out of the big city for once in your life and explore the backroads of God's country down 67.
 
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Ronnie Bass said:
You guys are confusing Ferguson, Florissant, Ucity, Jennings etc versus North County in St Francis County, where there is a HS actually called North County (the little brother to Farmington and Park Hills Central in football).

Get out of the big city for once in your life and explore the backroads of God's country down 67.
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WHY in the hell would anyone wanna do that lol
 
Ronnie Bass said:
You guys are confusing Ferguson, Florissant, Ucity, Jennings etc versus North County in St Francis County, where there is a HS actually called North County (the little brother to Farmington and Park Hills Central in football).

Get out of the big city for once in your life and explore the backroads of God's country down 67.
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LOL....oh, I see.

I love MO 67. That beautiful stretch took me past Farmington (with the occassional stop at the White Castle, of course), past Fredericktown (with the occasional visit to the city pool) and on into Cherokee Pass for summer camps as a kid. Nothing like a chili dog and root beer from the ol' Dog n' Suds. too!
 
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Ronnie Bass said:
You guys are confusing Ferguson, Florissant, Ucity, Jennings etc versus North County in St Francis County, where there is a HS actually called North County (the little brother to Farmington and Park Hills Central in football).

Get out of the big city for once in your life and explore the backroads of God's country down 67.
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1. It is St. Francois County. 2. NC is not any body’s little brother, more like the gifted uncle who fell off the wagon periodically but is ready to make his comeback while one of his nephews continues to thrive at Park Hills. 3. NC = NFL launch pad.
 
Duck_walk said:
2 in the past 11 years. Move into the new millennium, bruh.
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Ok brethren. 2 in the entire history of the school. That's awesome, still more than most schools put out. Congrats to them. Wasn't intended as a slight, just see FBisLife12 pointing out that Lutheran North has like 20 NFL alum.
 
Veerman_12 said:
Ok brethren. 2 in the entire history of the school. That's awesome, still more than most schools put out. Congrats to them. Wasn't intended as a slight, just see FBisLife12 pointing out that Lutheran North has like 20 NFL alum.
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we are very, very fortunate to have 2.
I can’t imagine having 20.
 
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Veerman_12 said:
Ok brethren. 2 in the entire history of the school. That's awesome, still more than most schools put out. Congrats to them. Wasn't intended as a slight, just see FBisLife12 pointing out that Lutheran North has like 20 NFL alum.
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They keep barring Steve Atwater from the Hall of Fame smh its a shame. Hopefully he gets in next year.
 
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Harrisonville has the same number of state titles as Lutheran North (5), and zero NFL players have come out of our program. The closest was Travis Britz that played at Kansas State. He was in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers training camp a few years ago. Zach Kendall who also played at Kansas State played for the Omaha Nighthawks of the United Football League. That's as close as anyone in our program has gotten.
 
mowesten said:
Lucky for us there are people who actively keep track of such things:

— The data used is simply active players on NFL rosters. It doesn't speak to the quality of the player. A lot of that is subjective anyway.

— There are 28 active players in the NFL from Missouri. That number is 19th overall, exactly where it should be as the 18th most populated state.

— There are 14 players from schools that I would consider commonly referred to as STL-area schools.

— There are nine players from schools that I would consider Kansas City area schools.

— The rest of the state, including Jefferson City, Rogersville, Lebanon, etc., has five.

— For context, Miami has 41 players currently in the NFL from just 18 different schools. Miami, population 463,000, and Kansas City, population 488,000, essentially has the same population.

Belle Glades Central a public school just north of the Everglades, with an enrollment of 992, in a city of 17,000, has had 23 players in the NFL and currently has five.

The small agricultural communities in central and south Florida (Homestead, Immokolee, etc.,etc.) consistently produce more football talent than any other place in the country per population.

Those communities are also among the poorest in Florida.

That's the raw data.

My theory on outdoor athletics and successful athletes is simple, hard times + warm weather = tough athletes.

That's true in football where the poorest communities in the south produce a lot more talented athletes than their more comfortable counterparts in the north.

And it's true in a sport like baseball where small island countries with small populations and virtually no resources, produce more than a quarter of all the players in MLB.

It's true in track and field where small island countries do considerably well given their population in comparrison to their counterparts at the Olympics.

And, while I know less about it, the same probably true in a sport like soccer as well.
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Great post, very fun to read. This totally makes up for that botched image embedding from way back in the Steckel thread :D
 
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MVBT-Liberty combining the populations of Birch Tree, MO and Mountain View, MO at about 500 and 2,000 respectively has produced one (1) NFL talent. WR Jaelon Acklin.

At about 188 miles from STL it's likely some in this thread would consider us in the STL Metro, as opposed to the far flung KCMO at 272 miles away.

0.0003 of our entire population are NFL athletes.
 
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JNreturns said:
But....um....these current NFL players aren't:

Beau Brinkly (of the NFL Titans), Kearney, MO Bulldogs
Will Compton (of the Oakland Raider) North County HS
Xavier Williams ( of the KC Chiefs) Grandview, MO Bulldogs
Drew Lock (of the Denver Bronos) Lee's Summit Tiger
Devonte Bausby (of the Denver Broncos) Hogan Prep
Even Boehm ( of the Miami Dolphins) Lee's Summit Tiger
Charles Harris (of the Miami Dolphins) Lincoln Prep, Blue Tiger
*Edited. Justin Britt, (Seattle Seahawks) Lebanon, MO

And three-time NCAA D1 National Champ, and Super Bowl Champion, Grant Wistrom (Webb City Cardinal) just called....he was laughing out loud.
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Also L.J. Fort from waynesville went to UNI and is starting for the Ravens today
 
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And how many of them this year were state champions? Having d1 talent doesn't have as much meaning if u can't say that you beat the best in your class. There is still a lot of talent not d1 that are champions. Because it's a team sport and it takes a whole team not just a few players to do that.
 
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