A thought...whaddya think?

[Dragon0337]

With the virus looming over this season and shutting down games, what if MSHAA shortened the season by letting every team get their rivalry game in now or next week and then starting the playoffs? I realize this would have ad to be put in motion a little earlier than today. On a lighter note the last few games wouldn't be as cold.

 

[bryantboy99]

With the virus looming over this season and shutting down games, what if MSHAA shortened the season by letting every team get their rivalry game in now or next week and then starting the playoffs? I realize this would have ad to be put in motion a little earlier than today. On a lighter note the last few games wouldn't be as cold.

If you're worried about the cold then you should just play soccer.

 

[WaggleQB]

Too forward thinking for MSHSAA

 

[Pancho and Lefty]

Will be real interesting and sad when playoff time comes and a team has a shut down due to quarantine or a break out.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Will be real interesting and sad when playoff time comes and a team has a shut down due to quarantine or a break out.

Trust me it is going to happen nobody is immune to it, just a matter of time.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Or...the quarantine rules could be loosened a bit. They really are a bit goofy in some areas, and in other areas not so much.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Or...the quarantine rules could be loosened a bit. They really are a bit goofy in some areas, and in other areas not so much.

Here is the thing, my child got quarantined friday night at 8:30 they were exposed on Monday. So they were still out and about for 4 before we were ever notified they had been exposed. 4 days!! So they are only going to be quarantined for 9 days.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Here is the thing, my child got quarantined friday night at 8:30 they were exposed on Monday. So they were still out and about for 4 before we were ever notified they had been exposed. 4 days!! So they are only going to be quarantined for 9 days.

That's a pretty typical story of the quarantines. Which almost makes you think they're bogus as all get out. Just a CYA for the money hungry ready to pounce in court. Like a lot of stuff with this "pandemic", there hasn't been a ton of common sense applied since we kind of figured out what we're dealing with.

 

[bullitpdq68]

That's a pretty typical story of the quarantines. Which almost makes you think they're bogus as all get out. Just a CYA for the money hungry ready to pounce in court. Like a lot of stuff with this "pandemic", there hasn't been a ton of common sense applied since we kind of figured out what we're dealing with.

Well my dad got it and he got really bad, but on the road to recovery now. I know the crap is real. But hell just seems crazy to me. So I have a freshmen that I have to keep in a room for 9 days. Have you ever tried to keep an adolescent age child in their room for two weeks....like trying to keep your cat in a fence.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Well my dad got it and he got really bad, but on the road to recovery now. I know the crap is real. But hell just seems crazy to me. So I have a freshmen that I have to keep in a room for 9 days. Have you ever tried to keep an adolescent age child in their room for two weeks....like trying to keep your cat in a fence.

Oh no, it's super real. No doubt about it. If you're elderly, and have some issues...especially respiratory issues...it's going to be tough. Just not sure how that equates to the arbitrary interruption of the educational process to a bunch of kids in school. If the kid is sick, yes, stay home. If the kid has been around a sick kid, that's where I get lost. Just goofy.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Oh no, it's super real. No doubt about it. If you're elderly, and have some issues...especially respiratory issues...it's going to be tough. Just not sure how that equates to the arbitrary interruption of the educational process to a bunch of kids in school. If the kid is sick, yes, stay home. If the kid has been around a sick kid, that's where I get lost. Just goofy.

No I totally understand were you are coming from.

 

[WaggleQB]

Oh no, it's super real. No doubt about it. If you're elderly, and have some issues...especially respiratory issues...it's going to be tough. Just not sure how that equates to the arbitrary interruption of the educational process to a bunch of kids in school. If the kid is sick, yes, stay home. If the kid has been around a sick kid, that's where I get lost. Just goofy.

A HUGE issue at our school are kids coming to school KNOWING they have it or been exposed to someone who has it. This is what is hard for schools to control and then EVERYONE wants to crap on the school folks.

 

[Mofan79]

A HUGE issue at our school are kids coming to school KNOWING they have it or been exposed to someone who has it. This is what is hard for schools to control and then EVERYONE wants to crap on the school folks.

Well do you want there parents to be responsible for them... You know that's the schools job!!!

 

[Eagles_Ball]

A HUGE issue at our school are kids coming to school KNOWING they have it or been exposed to someone who has it. This is what is hard for schools to control and then EVERYONE wants to crap on the school folks.

Having it is one thing. "Being exposed" is another. IMHO

 

[Eagles_Ball]

This is what is hard for schools to control and then EVERYONE wants to crap on the school folks.

That control thing is what is causing the problem. Can't control a virus. It's going to happen and spread. Trying to control it is what has lead to some of the loss of common sense. And schools are pretty much tied by the hands of their county health departments. And the speed of notifications. What's next? Holding out everyone who has been in contact with someone waiting on test results??? I mean, to be completely honest, that's the safest approach, right?

 

[WaggleQB]

That control thing is what is causing the problem. Can't control a virus. It's going to happen and spread. Trying to control it is what has lead to some of the loss of common sense. And schools are pretty much tied by the hands of their county health departments. And the speed of notifications. What's next? Holding out everyone who has been in contact with someone waiting on test results??? I mean, to be completely honest, that's the safest approach, right?

We are following county guidelines, THEY made the rules, we are just following them and we have to do contact tracing. Rules are rules, dumb or not, we're just playing by them. It's actually working well, for the most part.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

We are following county guidelines, THEY made the rules, we are just following them and we have to do contact tracing. Rules are rules, dumb or not, we're just playing by them. It's actually working well, for the most part.

Oh no, I totally get it. The rules aren't made by the schools. And you're right, they're following them. We'll disagree on the working well part. I believe the quarantine rules that schools have to follow are too much. It is far too much of a disruption to the educational process.

Here's a scenario...Jenny heard from a friend of a friend that someone in her class that was quarantined was actually positive. Jenny gets tested on Monday. Goes to school on Tuesday and Wednesday. Gets results Wednesday night that she's positive. She never showed a symptom, but was "exposed". That's why she went to school Tuesday and Wednesday. But Jenny has one of THOSE moms that just had to know if she was positive or not. So now, Jenny is quarantined for 10 days. Along with ANYONE that she exposed, tracing back to 24 hours prior to her positive test. Jenny has siblings in school, but they have not tested positive. Anyone Jenny came in contact with is out for 14 days. Jenny's siblings are out for 24 days. You know what gets them back sooner? A positive test result. There goes the snowball.

Orrrrrrr...Jenny's mom remembers her Xanax that day, and decides to not have Jenny tested. Jenny goes to school, never shows a symptom, and her educational process...and that of potentially dozens of others...isn't interrupted.

Both are plausible. Both happen. The results are the same. If we're in school, we need to be in school. The CDC and the health depts need to back off.

 

[Cheetah King]

Oh no, I totally get it. The rules aren't made by the schools. And you're right, they're following them. We'll disagree on the working well part. I believe the quarantine rules that schools have to follow are too much. It is far too much of a disruption to the educational process.

Here's a scenario...Jenny heard from a friend of a friend that someone in her class that was quarantined was actually positive. Jenny gets tested on Monday. Goes to school on Tuesday and Wednesday. Gets results Wednesday night that she's positive. She never showed a symptom, but was "exposed". That's why she went to school Tuesday and Wednesday. But Jenny has one of THOSE moms that just had to know if she was positive or not. So now, Jenny is quarantined for 10 days. Along with ANYONE that she exposed, tracing back to 24 hours prior to her positive test. Jenny has siblings in school, but they have not tested positive. Anyone Jenny came in contact with is out for 14 days. Jenny's siblings are out for 24 days. You know what gets them back sooner? A positive test result. There goes the snowball.

Orrrrrrr...Jenny's mom remembers her Xanax that day, and decides to not have Jenny tested. Jenny goes to school, never shows a symptom, and her educational process...and that of potentially dozens of others...isn't interrupted.

Both are plausible. Both happen. The results are the same. If we're in school, we need to be in school. The CDC and the health depts need to back off.

Put this to a beat and you have a Killers song.

 

[WaggleQB]

Oh no, I totally get it. The rules aren't made by the schools. And you're right, they're following them. We'll disagree on the working well part. I believe the quarantine rules that schools have to follow are too much. It is far too much of a disruption to the educational process.

Here's a scenario...Jenny heard from a friend of a friend that someone in her class that was quarantined was actually positive. Jenny gets tested on Monday. Goes to school on Tuesday and Wednesday. Gets results Wednesday night that she's positive. She never showed a symptom, but was "exposed". That's why she went to school Tuesday and Wednesday. But Jenny has one of THOSE moms that just had to know if she was positive or not. So now, Jenny is quarantined for 10 days. Along with ANYONE that she exposed, tracing back to 24 hours prior to her positive test. Jenny has siblings in school, but they have not tested positive. Anyone Jenny came in contact with is out for 14 days. Jenny's siblings are out for 24 days. You know what gets them back sooner? A positive test result. There goes the snowball.

Orrrrrrr...Jenny's mom remembers her Xanax that day, and decides to not have Jenny tested. Jenny goes to school, never shows a symptom, and her educational process...and that of potentially dozens of others...isn't interrupted.

Both are plausible. Both happen. The results are the same. If we're in school, we need to be in school. The CDC and the health depts need to back off.

I'll speak for my school, it's working well, under the circumstances.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

This is hysterical. Ran into a former player who is now in administration. He was saying ”every day is Groundhog Day” and proceeded to describe pretty much the scenario described above. Then, he said, you spend all day tracking down perceived Covid threat, identify it as non-threatening, then start with a new phone call first thing the next morning.

Every day is the same. Over and over and over...

And this, to me, is why it isn't working all that well. No fault of the school. The quarantine rules that most county health districts are employing currently (and most schools are following) are what happens when 15 people each get to make a rule about something. You end up with a bunch of rules that really don't make a whole lot of sense, and people that have zero control over the rules doing all the work to implement the rules. And, btw, the people that make the rules don't have a darned thing to do with the day-to-day implementation of the rules. So they make all the rules, but don't deal with the repercussions at all. Quite a deal.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

I'll speak for my school, it's working well, under the circumstances.

What do you consider working well? Meaning there isn't a big spread? Here there are roughly 45 positive cases. There have been about 800 placed on quarantine (that includes the 45 positive cases). That's out of 7000ish students and staff. So, we're allowing .65% of the population to disrupt the educational process of 12% of the population? In an arbitrary way, btw. It's not like the quarantines happen when they should, because the school is required to wait for notification of a positive test to start the tracing and quarantining. As for schools (at least mine) HANDLING it well, given the circumstances, I totally agree. They're doing what they can. It's the working well that I think is totally bogus. I'd be willing to bet the numbers wouldn't be a whole lot different if we didn't do a darned thing other than quarantining the sick.

 

[mugriswold]

Put this to a beat and you have a Killers song.

Nice reference to an underrated band the Killers!

 

[bullitpdq68]

We are following county guidelines, THEY made the rules, we are just following them and we have to do contact tracing. Rules are rules, dumb or not, we're just playing by them. It's actually working well, for the most part.

Correction to my previous post, a buddy passed some information along to me, so I am more informed as of now on what is going on, it does look like we have had more teachers quarantined. However my fight is not with the school lets be clear. I just find all of this sometimes crazy, but these times are crazy I guess.

 

[WaggleQB]

I don't think it is working or maybe it is the common sense part that is not?
So my kid sits at the front of the class next to a kid who test positive who also sits relative the same distance to the teacher. However "that I actually know of" no teacher or coach has yet to be quarantined in the schools because they have been in close contact at school yet kids are being? For me to think that schools are taking the contract tracing serious we should be seeing some teachers being quarantined....should we not? I know the 15 minute rule but really that is the justification for keeping teachers in the classroom but yet moving kids out?

The "common sense" part is what is keeping it from working even better for us, some parents do not have any!
We have a school of about 1650 students, we have about 280 who decided to be all virtual and not be in the building, we have half of our students 2 days a week, none on Wednesdays, and the other half 2 days a week. Been back in school since the week before Labor Day, we've had 4 confirmed cases (3 students and 1 teacher), the last being in early September. Through our contact tracing an additional 5 students and 2 teachers were quarantined due to the positives. We have not had any sporting events cancelled, so I would consider this "working". If we were full blown all in everyone in school, we might have the same numbers or similar, or worse, or better. Who knows?

 

[Eagles_Ball]

You gotta investigate every lead, though.

True story...If you don't, or don't leave evidence of it...Hell hath no fury like a momma looking for a payday scorned.

 

[Jomjam]

My friend says his son is virtual and the whole team decided to be virtual to avoid any random contact through school until their season is over.

 

[da bears 25]

Aren’t kids wearing masks? They are at my kids school. If masks work and they have them on then why does a kid need to be quarantined if they are sitting by someone who has it? And why do we quarantine the healthy?

 

[bullitpdq68]

Aren’t kids wearing masks? They are at my kids school. If masks work and they have them on then why does a kid need to be quarantined if they are sitting by someone who has it? And why do we quarantine the healthy?

exactly, all of our kids in high school are supposed to be wearing mask. My child was wearing the mask the whole time in the classroom, yet here we are still quarantined? But the reasoning is because they are exposed for over 15 minutes. If that is the case the kids all need to get up every 15 minutes and move next to somebody else problem solved!

 

[WaggleQB]

Aren’t kids wearing masks? They are at my kids school. If masks work and they have them on then why does a kid need to be quarantined if they are sitting by someone who has it? And why do we quarantine the healthy?

Ours are, staff too.

 

[Angeleyes74]

Having it is one thing. "Being exposed" is another. IMHO

I am pretty sure 100% of us have been exposed to the virus in the last 6 months, and a pretty good chance a lot of us have had the crud and recovered from it on our own.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

And why do we quarantine the healthy?

Million. Dollar. Question.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

exactly, all of our kids in high school are supposed to be wearing mask. My child was wearing the mask the whole time in the classroom, yet here we are still quarantined? But the reasoning is because they are exposed for over 15 minutes. If that is the case the kids all need to get up every 15 minutes and move next to somebody else problem solved!

Right? Perfect idea! 14:59, you're okay. 15:00? Nope, HIGH RISK EXPOSURE. See how I get frustrated with the arbitrary nature of all of this? Hogwash.

 

[BoosterBosko]

Right? Perfect idea! 14:59, you're okay. 15:00? Nope, HIGH RISK EXPOSURE. See how I get frustrated with the arbitrary nature of all of this? Hogwash.

 

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