2020 Class Breakdown Without "Success Factor"

[Veerman_12]

Class 6

Blue Springs 1834
Jefferson City 1828
Marquette 1720
Christian Brothers College 1680
Chaminade 1668
Lindbergh 1616
Hazelwood West 1599
Lee's Summit West 1595
Joplin 1579
Park Hill 1495
Rockhurst 1494
St. Louis University 1494
DeSmet 1488
Raymore-Peculiar 1469
Rock Bridge 1467
Blue Springs South 1459
Troy Buchanan 1454
Ft. Zumwalt West 1445
Lee's Summit North 1427
Liberty North 1416
Francis Howell Central 1413
Hazelwood Central 1394
Lafayette (Wildwood) 1392
Liberty 1390
Francis Howell 1358
Northwest (Cedar Hill) 1334
Ritenour 1330
Kickapoo 1322
Eureka 1311
Kirkwood 1311
Pattonville 1302
Ozark 1301

Class 5

Lee's Summit 1300
Nixa 1292
Francis Howell North 1274
Holt 1274
Vianney 1270
Fox 1264
Central (St. Joseph) 1262
Seckman 1257
Timberland 1257
Parkway South 1244
Central (Springfield) 1221
Hickman 1221
Oakville 1214
Staley 1213
Park Hill South 1201
Waynesville 1200
Truman 1195
Oak Park 1187
Belton 1177
North Kansas City 1171
Jackson 1148
Ft. Zumwalt North 1137
Raytown 1133
McCluer North 1124
Carthage 1108
Fort Osage 1107
Battle 1102
Mehlville 1102
Poplar Bluff 1092
William Chrisman 1090
Branson 1076
Republic 1074
Parkway West 1070
Lebanon 1060
Smith-Cotton 1055

Class 4

Parkview 1048
Ruskin 1046
Glendale 1016
Liberty (Wentzville) 1015
Willard 1003
Webster Groves 1001
Ft. Zumwalt South 1000
Camdenton 990
Parkway Central 986
Grain Valley 980
Washington 971
Ladue Horton Watkins 967
Neosho 963
Ft. Zumwalt East 962
Rockwood Summit 962
Winnetonka 954
Webb City 939
Grandview 938
Rolla 932
Platte County 914
East (Kansas City) 913
Raytown South 904
Cape Central 900
Farmington 897
Kearney 891
Hazelwood East 864
Riverview Gardens 845
Hillsboro 842
Parkway North 838
McDonald County 831
Gateway 802
Hillcrest 798
McCluer 789
West Plains 754
Carl Junction 744
Hannibal 741
Warrensburg 725
Sikeston 722
Warrenton 722
Union 713
DeSoto 712
Roosevelt/Cleveland NJROTC 711
North County 708
Marshfield 701
Van Horn 685
Windsor (Imperial) 677
Pacific 674
Clayton 662
Smithville 662
St. Charles 631
Festus 628
Harrisonville 628
Marshall 613
Excelsior Springs 599
Affton 586
Bolivar 583
University City 575
Monett 574
Lafayette (St. Joseph) 571
Jennings 564
Bishop DuBourg/Hancock 560
Kirksville 560
Lincoln College Prep 559
Sullivan 557

Class 3

Benton 555
Moberly 551
Logan-Rogersville 548
Savannah 546
Perryville 541
Nevada 539
St. Dominic 533
Fulton 531
St. Clair 531
Mexico 527
Helias Catholic 524
Westminster Christian Academy 524
Northeast (Kansas City) 518
Pleasant Hill 509
Center 505
Confluence Prep 500
St. Mary's (St. Louis) 500
St. Charles West 494
Potosi 487
Oak Grove 484
MICDS 465
Park Hills Central 458
Normandy Collaborative 455
Odessa 451
Aurora 440
Osage 439
Reeds Spring 439
Ste. Genevieve 439
Southeast 438
Salem 433
St. Francis Borgia 433
Dexter 429
Fredericktown 427
Priory 427
Cassville 425
Miller Career Academy 424
Orchard Farm 423
Owensville 417
Boonville 409
Cameron 405
Clinton 403
Chillicothe 400
Eldon 396
Soldan International Studies 392
St. James 392
Central Academy of Excellence 375
Vashon 374
Southern Boone 368
Winfield 367
Hogan Prep Academy Charter 367
Hollister 365
Buffalo 360
Bayless 358
Mt. Vernon 358
Cardinal Ritter 357
Centralia 357
Maryville 354
Doniphan 353
Kennett 351
Seneca 349
Wright City 347
Blair Oaks 337
California 336
Lutheran South 334

Class 2

Herculaneum 331
Macon 330
Richmond 324
Willow Springs 323
Ava 320
John Burroughs 314
Pembroke Hill 310
Forsyth 309
East Newton 305
Lawson 305
Springfield Catholic 300
Lamar 299
Hallsville 295
Montgomery County 292
Fatima 291
Cuba 288
Mountain Grove 288
Bowling Green 284
North Callaway 280
Clopton-Elsberry 279
Warsaw 277
Clever 274
Versailles 271
Strafford 268
Trenton 268
Holden 267
Knob Noster 267
Liberty (Mountain View) 267
Lutheran St. Charles 267
Trinity Catholic 267
Central (New Madrid County) 262
Houston 262
St. Pius X (Kansas City) 261
Carnahan 261
El Dorado Springs 254
O' Fallon Christian 254
Palmyra 247
Fair Grove 244
East Prairie 242
Hermann 237
Lift for Life Academy 233
Lathrop 233
Stockton 231
Missouri Military Academy 228
Brookfield 226
Butler 226
St. Michael the Archangel 224
Kelly 221
Jefferson (Festus) 220
Duchesne 219
St. Pius X (Festus) 219
Clark County 219
Grandview (Hillsboro) 216
Father Tolton Regional Catholic 214
Charleston 213
Highland 211
Lafayette County 206
Caruthersville 205
Lexington 199
Sarcoxie 199
Monroe City 198
South Callaway 197
Carrollton 189
Malden 189

Class 1

South Harrison 188
University Academy 187
Diamond 183
Scott City 181
Sherwood 178
Cole Camp 177
Lutheran North 176
Cabool 175
Marionville 173
South Shelby 171
Mid Buchanan 170
Pleasant Hope 169
Summit Christian 169
Windsor 168
Tipton 164
East Buchanan 164
Thayer 163
Putnam County 161
Louisiana 159
Principia 159
Skyline 159
Portageville 159
Ash Grove 158
Brentwood 156
Chaffee 156
Mark Twain 154
Penney 154
Lone Jack 152
Pierce City 151
Plattsburg 151
Adrian 145 145
Milan 142 142
Westran 140
Van-Far 140
Miller 137
Archie 134
West Platte 133
Fayette 132
Marceline 132
North Platte 132
Polo 132
Hayti 130
Scotland County 129
Gallatin 128
Crest Ridge 126
Maysville 123
Crystal City 122
Harrisburg 122
Salisbury 122
St. Vincent 111
Jasper 110
Knox County 108
Lincoln 107
Midway 106
Paris 104
Valle Catholic 104
Princeton 103
Sweet Springs 103
Slater 92
Concordia 91
Lockwood 87
St. Joe Christian 87
Wellington-Napoleon 84
Santa Fe 81

 

[Veerman_12]

What private schools do you see moving where?

Also if you're absolutely aware a team is moving to 8-man, let me know and I can adjust this.

 

[Jomjam]

You do need to double single gendered schools, so you need to double chaminade, vianney, DeSmet, priory, cbc

 

[Missouri Kid]

What private schools do you see moving where?

Also if you're absolutely aware a team is moving to 8-man, let me know and I can adjust this.

Will J. C. be that big next year with the new Capital City high school starting varsity FB next year? Had heard rumors that J C would drop to 5 and CC would come in as a 4.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Also you need to take into account co-ops.

St. Joe Christian co-op with Northland Christian.
Maysville co-op with Winston.
Princeton co-op with Mercer.
Van-Far co-op with Community.
Lockwood co-op with Golden City.
Lone Jack co-op with Kingsville.
Sweet Springs co-op with Malta Bend.
Paris co-op with Faith Walk.
Stockton co-op with Sheldon.
Vashon co-op with Transportation and Law.
Bishop DuBourg co-op with Hancock

 

[Veerman_12]

Also you need to take into account co-ops.

St. Joe Christian is co-oping with Northland Christian. They are also private so they should be bold.

Maysville co-op with Winston.
Princeton co-op with Mercer.
Van-Far co-op with Community.
Lockwood co-op with Golden City.
Lone Jack co-op with Kingsville.
Sweet Springs co-op with Malta Bend.

Thank you. Hey, at least it doesn't have Licking, Arcadia Valley, and a ton of other schools that don't actually have football.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Thank you. Hey, at least it doesn't have Licking, Arcadia Valley, and a ton of other schools that don't actually have football.

I added a few more. There may be some others, but those are the ones I can find. You already had Clopton-Elsberry.

 

[HoopsTournament]

You do need to double single gendered schools, so you need to double chaminade, vianney, DeSmet, priory, cbc

I think they were already doubled in the enrollment figures on MSHSAA. Only need to divide private schools by 1.35 from MSHSAA enrollment.

 

[HoopsTournament]

What private schools do you see moving where?

Also if you're absolutely aware a team is moving to 8-man, let me know and I can adjust this.

Have heard Archie and Jasper are moving to 8-man. Not sure about anyone else.

 

[Veerman_12]

I think they were already doubled in the enrollment figures on MSHSAA. Only need to divide private schools by 1.35 from MSHSAA enrollment.

I went ahead and checked school websites on the larger single gender schools. Numbers should be accurate now.

 

[Veerman_12]

My biggest question becomes which private schools will be moving, and how far?

I would guess Valle and Lutheran North move to Class 3. Trinity is likely Class 4. Ritter is anyone's guess. They've got an equal amount of good and bad years.

 

[USArmyMike]

If they go with the 6/12 point proposal then my guess is Vianney, John Burroughs, Lutheran North and Valle Catholic all move up 1 class. If Calle beats Hayti then they will move up 2 classes

 

[Jomjam]

I think they were already doubled in the enrollment figures on MSHSAA. Only need to divide private schools by 1.35 from MSHSAA enrollment.

I think you’re right! My bad.

 

[Veerman_12]

If they go with the 6/12 point proposal then my guess is Vianney, John Burroughs, Lutheran North and Valle Catholic all move up 1 class. If Calle beats Hayti then they will move up 2 classes

So it accomplishes nothing but moving Valle out of Class 1. Perfect.

 

[HoopsTournament]

So it accomplishes nothing but moving Valle out of Class 1. Perfect.

Other than they are not in Class 1 any more. The multiplier didn't accomplish that.

 

[Veerman_12]

Other than they are not in Class 1 any more. The multiplier didn't accomplish that.

I guess there's that, but I'm not sure how beneficial the change is if it really only impacts one school.

 

[HoopsTournament]

If they go with the 6/12 point proposal then my guess is Vianney, John Burroughs, Lutheran North and Valle Catholic all move up 1 class. If Calle beats Hayti then they will move up 2 classes

I guess there's that, but I'm not sure how beneficial the change is if it really only impacts one school.

It impacts every school that is in Class 1. They don't have to face Valle in the playoffs. So it doesn't only impact Valle.

 

[Veerman_12]

It impacts every school that is in Class 1. They don't have to face Valle in the playoffs. So it doesn't only impact Valle.

Good point.

 

[USArmyMike]

It will take 2 years for this to balance out

 

[panther72]

Note that Lincoln Prep is not a charter school.

 

[Veerman_12]

Note that Lincoln Prep is not a charter school.

Noted. I didn't move them anywhere, so that'll be as easy as removing the bold.

 

[Team Tiger]

If they go with the 6/12 point proposal then my guess is Vianney, John Burroughs, Lutheran North and Valle Catholic all move up 1 class. If Calle beats Hayti then they will move up 2 classes

If they use 6/12 as the cut offs, Valle if already headed for class 3 regardless of what they do this year. LN would move up one but that just puts them back in class 2, their raw enrollment puts them in class 1. I believe JB would be going to class 3 also due to their earlier championships. I posted 5 year point totals but they have disappeared for some reason.

 

[Veerman_12]

If they use 6/12 as the cut offs, Valle if already headed for class 3 regardless of what they do this year. LN would move up one but that just puts them back in class 2, their raw enrollment puts them in class 1. I believe JB would be going to class 3 also due to their earlier championships. I posted 5 year point totals but they have disappeared for some reason.

Correct. So like I said the new "Success factor" essentially does nothing.

 

[JNreturns]

Perfect...class 4 with a 1.89 differential from top to bottom. Almost twice as big but not quite. That would be like the top 15 schools from class 4 playing in class 6. Makes sense.

 

[Veerman_12]

Perfect...class 4 with a 1.89 differential from top to bottom. Almost twice as big but not quite. That would be like the top 15 schools from class 4 playing in class 6. Makes sense.

In theory Trinity and Cardinal Ritter could both be bumped to Class 4. Also I haven't adjusted for co-ops and teams moving to 8 man. Numbers will change.

 

[USArmyMike]

On thing as well is I thought Mshsaa was going to balance out classes 2-5. That would also create a lot of changes

 

[CaptainBackslap]

On thing as well is I thought Mshsaa was going to balance out classes 2-5. That would also create a lot of changes

Let’s hope not.

 

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

Going to be interesting with Helias and Blair Oaks in the same C3 district.

 

[squeal_like_a_pig]

Good work, so the talk is 64 in class 1 then 53 in the rest? Or will class 6 remain 32 and the rest of them divided between class 2-5. Either way should still see several schools move up. Will Webb then be class 5?

 

[USArmyMike]

Good work, so the talk is 64 in class 1 then 53 in the rest? Or will class 6 remain 32 and the rest of them divided between class 2-5. Either way should still see several schools move up. Will Webb then be class 5?

64 in class 1, 32 in class 6 (big schools are fighting for this).

 

[FBisLife12]

In theory Trinity and Cardinal Ritter could both be bumped to Class 4. Also I haven't adjusted for co-ops and teams moving to 8 man. Numbers will change.

Ritter has one Finals appearance and one Quarterfinals in the last 5 years. Trinity has two Finals visits, with one win, but hadn’t won Districts going back 5 years. JBS won State in 2015, but hasn’t won Districts since. Idk how they did in 2014. LN has three Quarterfinals wins (I think), 2 District titles, and whatever they get this season.

 

[Veerman_12]

Ritter has one Finals appearance and one Quarterfinals in the last 5 years. Trinity has two Finals visits, with one win, but hadn’t won Districts going back 5 years. JBS won State in 2015, but hasn’t won Districts since. Idk how they did in 2014. LN has three Quarterfinals wins (I think), 2 District titles, and whatever they get this season.

Uh huh, and I said "In theory those teams COULD make those jumps." Not that they would.

Trust me, we all know those teams have underperformed relative to their talent.

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

Can someone point me the way how you calculate the 1.35 multiplier.

 

[Veerman_12]

Can someone point me the way how you calculate the 1.35 multiplier.

Why it's obsolete?

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Ritter has one Finals appearance and one Quarterfinals in the last 5 years. Trinity has two Finals visits, with one win, but hadn’t won Districts going back 5 years. JBS won State in 2015, but hasn’t won Districts since. Idk how they did in 2014. LN has three Quarterfinals wins (I think), 2 District titles, and whatever they get this season.

LN looked like a worthless team last night. Losing in the next game is a likely case

 

[lavir_murof]

Can someone rehash the success factor explanation?

 

[Cards1968]

Can someone rehash the success factor explanation?

1 point for winning district
2 points for winning quarterfinal
3 points for winning semifinal
4 points for winning it all

Not a cumulative stat, so losing in the title game is 3 points not 6 for example.

Go back 5 years not counting this year.

Scales and points have not been finalized. Proposal I've seen is 6 points is the one class up bump, and 12 points is the two classes up bump.

 

[millerbleach]

Clarify. Is this only for privates or all schools?

 

[Cards1968]

Clarify. Is this only for privates or all schools?

Only private