20 Days in 2016

[MOsportsStaff]

MSHSAA ballot item
Proposal 7
Amends by-law 3.15.3 by reducing the number of contact days that are currently allowed per sport, per gender, during the summer from 25 to 20. (Not applicable until summer of 2016)

281 For 213 Against


It gets harder and harder to help your kids get better every year....if you follow the rules.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

MSHSAA ballot item
Proposal 7
Amends by-law 3.15.3 by reducing the number of contact days that are currently allowed per sport, per gender, during the summer from 25 to 20. (Not applicable until summer of 2016)

281 For 213 Against


It gets harder and harder to help your kids get better every year....if you follow the rules.

Pretty simple really...admins want to work/supervise less in summer. How do I do that? Vote yes! I never understood the contact days thing anyway. Seemed like rule-making when rule-making wasn't needed. That seems to never happen in these times.

 

[Green&Black]

The outsourcing of interscholastic sports continues. After all, we all know that superior coaching happens on the AAU/travel circuit anyway.

I hope your sarcasm meters are working.

 

[mowesten]

The outsourcing of interscholastic sports continues. After all, we all know that superior coaching happens on the AAU/travel circuit anyway.

I hope your sarcasm meters are working.

It actually probably is superior in some instances. The quality of high school coach, especially at the small school level, is getting poorer every year in my opinion.

Would you rather have Corey Tate as your coach, or some 24 year old kid whose basketball claim to fame is he once got off the bench at a Class 1 school?

The contact day rule definitely benefits programs in which kids are putting in work on their own time.

 

[MOsportsStaff]

where would a kid in a small town, say Cuba or Steelville, that has just one gym (when that gym is the high school) put in that work?

 

[Green&Black]

Would you rather have Corey Tate as your coach, or some 24 year old kid whose basketball claim to fame is he once got off the bench at a Class 1 school?

Cause all AAU coaches are Tate quality. How many mid to high level AAU tournaments have you watched lately? I'm guessing few if any. Mid to high level refers to the player talent level by the way, not for the collection of Wooden-like coaches.

 

[mowesten]

where would a kid in a small town, say Cuba or Steelville, that has just one gym (when that gym is the high school) put in that work?

I don't know the ins and outs of the rules, but couldn't a third party be given access to the gym and facilitate its usage? I'm not a proponent of the rule by any means, just wondering.

I'm dating myself here, but in my day, there would be 40 high school age kids from all over the county at the park playing all day on Saturday and Sunday. I know for a fact that still goes on in STL and KC. I just finished reading his book and Larry Bird was made on the outdoor courts in rural Indiana. That's always an option, but you have to really love the sport to want to hoop outside. Most kids would rather play X box or Snapchat.

 

[mowesten]

Cause all AAU coaches are Tate quality. How many mid to high level AAU tournaments have you watched lately? I'm guessing few if any. Mid to high level refers to the player talent level by the way, not for the collection of Wooden-like coaches.

Bad guess, lol ... I have been at a tournament almost every weekend so far this spring. Just came back from the Houston EYBL last weekend. Already been to the MADE HOOPS tournament hosted by the Ark Wings in Bentonville, Ark. Was also at Lexington, Ky EYBL and the UA circuit in Louisville (same weekend). Going to be at the KC Classic later today. Last spring/summer, I attended summer basketball tournaments on 10 different weekends including: Jayhawk, STL Mullens, KC Classic, KC Hardwood, Sunflower Showcase, Eagan, Minn EYBL, Hampton, Va EYBL, Peach Jam, I can't even remember. A lot of weekends, I went to two different ones. That doesn't including being somewhere every weekend in June for HS camps and stuff.

I stand by my original thought that, "It (AAU coaching) actually probably is superior in some instances."

The coaching at many small schools, and even the larger schools to some degree, has taken a beating in recent years because schools recycle coaches like they change shirts. If you think your average Class 1-2 coach these days is great then more power to you.

Many of the AAU coaches in my area played college basketball at a high level and overseas. They're not all great, and they're all different. Some are very expensive and are making quite a living. Some are or were very accomplished high school coaches as well. Nearly all have a much better background in the sport than your average small school coach. Many have done both (high school and summer ball), and have had success in both arenas.

Not here to defend AAU basketball or the people involved, but I do think the climate in high school sports has reduced the quality of coaching, and in my opinion, as someone who is around both as much as anyone, there isn't nearly the divide there used to be between the competence of summer coaches and high school coaches.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

The outsourcing of interscholastic sports continues. After all, we all know that superior coaching happens on the AAU/travel circuit anyway.

I hope your sarcasm meters are working.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...Go to Twitter. Check out @aau_bingo. #aaubingo. You will thank me!

 

[cardinalboss]

Does anybody know if this came from the advisory board, administrators, MSHSAA? Just curious.

I'm all for limiting football and baseball to 20 days!!