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Yadi is a finalist for GG?

3Rfan

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I guess I don't see what he did to even be in the discussion for GG this season. I thought this was easily his worst season defensively. I don't have any numbers to back it up but I'd guess he had a LOT more past balls this year than any other season. There is a lot of factors that go into the percentage of runners caught stealing, but a past ball is all on the catcher.
 
I guess I don't see what he did to even be in the discussion for GG this season. I thought this was easily his worst season defensively. I don't have any numbers to back it up but I'd guess he had a LOT more past balls this year than any other season. There is a lot of factors that go into the percentage of runners caught stealing, but a past ball is all on the catcher.
Huh, that's funny. I thought last year was by far his worst year defensively and he bounced back this year to form. I'm sure someone will have the numbers, but I guess that's why some people don't trust the eyeball test since we both watched him and came to 2 different conclusions.
 
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I thought he was worse last year too. He came back better this year. And even better when the heir was brought up. Amazing how that happens.
 
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Huh, that's funny. I thought last year was by far his worst year defensively and he bounced back this year to form. I'm sure someone will have the numbers, but I guess that's why some people don't trust the eyeball test since we both watched him and came to 2 different conclusions.

100% correct. I dont need numbers. He was hideous in 2016. Much better in 2017. Still not what he was. Who could be?
 
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100% correct. I dont need numbers. He was hideous in 2016. Much better in 2017. Still not what he was. Who could be?
At his peak, when he was throwing out over 50% of guys trying to steal and picking off fools left and right he was really fun to watch. I'm not sure anyone was ever better.
 
At his peak, when he was throwing out over 50% of guys trying to steal and picking off fools left and right he was really fun to watch. I'm not sure anyone was ever better.

His team work with Albert keeping runners close over there and picking people off was fun as heck to watch.
 
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I guess I don't see what he did to even be in the discussion for GG this season. I thought this was easily his worst season defensively. I don't have any numbers to back it up but I'd guess he had a LOT more past balls this year than any other season. There is a lot of factors that go into the percentage of runners caught stealing, but a past ball is all on the catcher.
He had 6 passed balls. 6. When you consider how many pitches he caught and other plays he had to make...this is basically meaningless to the evaluation of him.

I admit I'm with Duck, I thought he bounced back and looked a little healthier.
 
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100% correct. I dont need numbers. He was hideous in 2016. Much better in 2017. Still not what he was. Who could be?
He was probably bad last year in comparison to his norm but he had a gazillion past balls THIS season, that just ain't GG stuff even if he was as bad last year.
 
Inflationary times during the Trump era.
Well you know everything that happened 4 or 5 years ago I think happened last year so I'll defer on this one. I still don't think he had GG year THIS year. :p
 
I dont think Yadi is a gold glover any more but I still like the dude and consider him a cards legend for his entire career and the cincinnati fight. :)
 
That's great. You also don't care about the stat you brought up either. So you just don't care to actually understand anything
I understand a LOT of things, one is that I don't really care what YOU think of me. :confused:
 
I understand a LOT of things, one is that I don't really care what YOU think of me. :confused:
But let's step back and figure out how we got here

You're crying about your catcher being bad on defense based on PB. I gave you a catcher with 10 more. You say that Molina has more PB than ever.....when he's had 5 seasons with more and 2 other seasons with 6.
 
But let's step back and figure out how we got here

You're crying about your catcher being bad on defense based on PB. I gave you a catcher with 10 more. You say that Molina has more PB than ever.....when he's had 5 seasons with more and 2 other seasons with 6.
I didn't say he had more than ever, I said he had a lot this season and it was pointed out that he more last season which, to which I deferred. I have hard time remembering what happened last week. One thing about that is a past ball is only charged if there a runner on that advances. I still say he had a LOT of balls get by him this season that usually do not. he usually blocks balls that he didn't this season. Maybe he decided not to expend the energy to do that unless a runner is on.
 
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