Witness account called into radio station

[longestyard]

FERGUSON, Missouri (CNN) ?The Ferguson, Missouri, police officer who killed Michael Brown says the teenager rushed at him full speed in the moments before the shooting, according to an account phoned in to a radio station and confirmed by a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation.



Meanwhile, a spokesman for the St. Louis County prosecuting attorney said Monday that evidence in the shooting death could be presented to a grand jury as early as Wednesday.



According to the account on St. Louis radio station KFTK, phoned in by a woman who identified herself as "Josie," the altercation on August 9 began after Officer Darren Wilson rolled down his window to tell Brown and a friend to stop walking in the street.



When Wilson tried to get out of his cruiser, Brown first tried to push the officer back into the car, then punched him in the face and grabbed for his gun before breaking free after the gun went off once, the caller said.



Wilson pursued Brown and his friend, ordering them to freeze, according to the account. When they turned around, Brown began taunting Wilson, saying he would not arrest them, then ran at the officer at full speed, the caller said.



Wilson then began shooting. The final shot was to Brown's forehead, and the teenager fell two or three feet in front of Wilson, said the caller, who identified herself as the officer's friend.

 

[Drop.Tine]

Yeah it was on Dana's show last Friday. I didn't post anything because it wasn't a proven connection. I did see CNN's source said the ladies account of what happened matched the officers.


Guess we will see Wednesday.

 

[Duck_walk]

Josie wasn't a "witness". She wasnt even there.
She was spoon fed something to read on the radio.

Lord people.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Originally posted by Duck_walk:
Josie wasn't a "witness". She wasnt even there.
She was spoon fed something to read on the radio.

Lord people.

and that is different than the supposedly "eye witness" accounts of he was gunned down in the back with his hands up, that the autopsy showed different.

 

[runyouover]

Wrong. They don't know for sure if the arm injuries were caused from shots from the front or back. Get your story straight

 

[Black&Gold82]

Originally posted by runyouover:
Wrong. They don't know for sure if the arm injuries were caused from shots from the front or back. Get your story straight

Wrong. Get your story straight. Results showed that ALL shots were fired from the front.

 

[Duck_walk]

Sorry BG. The professor at the press conference who did the autopsy said one of the shots in the forearm could have occurred from behind. Because your arm can be turned it could have happened walking or running away from the officer or facing the officer. the chest and head shots were definitely from the front according to his preliminary conclusions.

 

[bullitpdq68]

I heard that last night on CNN but when questioned further he said that all the gun shoot wounds could also be consistent with somebody running forward, and pumping their arms he even demonstrated it on camera as the CNN anchor tried to corner him to say that some of the wounds were consistent with being turned around. They said there was just no way they could say with out any doubt how he was facing when he was shoot, besides just a few rounds but most likely he was forward they say.

 

[Black&Gold82]

Originally posted by Duck_walk:
Sorry BG. The professor at the press conference who did the autopsy said one of the shots in the forearm could have occurred from behind. Because your arm can be turned it could have happened walking or running away from the officer or facing the officer. the chest and head shots were definitely from the front according to his preliminary conclusions.

After seeing his post I did a search on the autopsy and it said that all shots came from the front. Wonder why they changed it...

 

[Duck_walk]

I will start DVRing every press conference for you. But if its on the internet it must be true. My bad.

 

[Black&Gold82]

Originally posted by Duck_walk:
I will start DVRing every press conference for you. But if its on the internet it must be true. My bad.

This was from baden's autopsy...

 

[Drop.Tine]

Bump

 

[3Rfan]

The FBI now says there were two gunshots INSIDE the car. One that missed Brown the other went threw his hand. Not sure how Baden didn't catch gunshot residue on Brown's hand. He did not have access to the clothing but the FBI says it was on his hand. The officer will still have to answer why he shot at him while he was running away and why he shot him dead when he turned around with his hands up. The leak says the officer's testimony to the grand jury also says he DID know about the robbery and stopped them because he thought they fit the description of the robbers. A LOT of things are starting to come out that were not made public before.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Stepping back from all of that, pretty hard to prove either way if Brown was charging or not when the fatal shot occurred. Given the need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that's a tough, tough hill for any prosecutor to climb given the earlier confrontation.

 

[Drop.Tine]

Originally posted by Neutron Monster:
Stepping back from all of that, pretty hard to prove either way if Brown was charging or not when the fatal shot occurred. Given the need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that's a tough, tough hill for any prosecutor to climb given the earlier confrontation.

You don't think crime scene investigators can't prove whether he was standing still or charging Wilson?

 

[Neutron Monster]

Originally posted by Drop.Tine:

Originally posted by Neutron Monster:
Stepping back from all of that, pretty hard to prove either way if Brown was charging or not when the fatal shot occurred. Given the need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that's a tough, tough hill for any prosecutor to climb given the earlier confrontation.

You don't think crime scene investigators can't prove whether he was standing still or charging Wilson?

Not an expert, but that seems harder to prove than you might think it is, especially when one could argue he fell forward as a reaction to the shots. They have no real evidence from the autopsy that tells you anything.

Maybe if you have good footprints, sure, but the guy was in the middle of the road - not a place where footprints would be that easy to be find.

Outside of DNA, forensics is a heavily overrated science. We think CSI can prove a lot more than it can.