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Why don’t all jobs matter in politics?

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By PAUL KRUGMAN

President Donald Trump is still promising to bring back coal jobs. But the underlying reasons for coal employment’s decline — automation, falling electricity demand, cheap natural gas, technological progress in wind and solar — won’t go away.

Meanwhile, last week the Treasury Department officially (and correctly) declined to name China as a currency manipulator, making nonsense of everything Trump has said about reviving manufacturing.

So will the Trump administration do anything substantive to bring back mining and manufacturing jobs? Probably not.

But let me ask a different question: Why does public discussion of job loss focus so intensely on mining and manufacturing, while virtually ignoring the big declines in some service sectors?

Consider what has happened to department stores. Even as Trump was boasting about saving a few hundred jobs in manufacturing here and there, Macy’s announced plans to close 68 stores and lay off 10,000 workers. Sears, another iconic institution, has expressed “substantial doubt” about its ability to stay in business.

Overall, department stores employ a third fewer people now than they did in 2001. That’s half a million traditional jobs gone — about 18 times as many jobs as were lost in coal mining over the same period.

And retailing isn’t the only service industry that has been hit hard by changing technology. Another prime example is newspaper publishing, where employment has declined by 270,000, almost two-thirds of the workforce, since 2000.

So why aren’t promises to save service jobs as much a staple of political posturing as promises to save mining and manufacturing jobs?

One answer might be that mines and factories sometimes act as anchors of local economies, so their closing can devastate a community in a way shutting a retail outlet won’t.

But it’s not the whole truth. Closing a factory is just one way to undermine a local community. Competition from superstores and shopping malls also devastated many small-city downtowns; now many small-town malls are failing too. And we shouldn’t minimize the extent to which the long decline of small newspapers has eroded the sense of local identity.

A different, less creditable reason mining and manufacturing have become political footballs, while services haven’t, involves the need for villains. Demagogues can tell coal miners that liberals took away their jobs with environmental regulations. They can tell industrial workers that their jobs were taken away by nasty foreigners. And they can promise to bring the jobs back by making America polluted again, by getting tough on trade, and so on. These are false promises, but they play well with some audiences.

By contrast, it’s really hard to blame either liberals or foreigners for, say, the decline of Sears.

But, you ask, what can we do to stop service-sector job cuts? Not much — but that’s also true for mining and manufacturing, as working-class Trump voters will soon learn. In an ever-changing economy, jobs are always being lost: 75,000 Americans are fired or laid off every working day. And sometimes whole sectors go away as tastes or technology changes.

While we can’t stop job losses from happening, however, we can limit the human damage when they do happen. We can guarantee health care and adequate retirement income for all. We can provide aid to the newly unemployed. And we can act to keep the overall economy strong — which means doing things like investing in infrastructure and education, not cutting taxes on rich people and hoping the benefits trickle down.

I don’t want to sound unsympathetic to miners and industrial workers. Yes, their jobs matter. But all jobs matter. And while we can’t ensure that any particular job endures, we can and should ensure that a decent life endures even when a job doesn’t.


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/o...olumnists/article145241764.html#storylink=cpy
 
Wait til Amazon perfects the delivery drone, and Google gets the driver-less car right. We won't need taxis or UPS.
 
This post is a lie written and published by globalist. It's as Anti American and barely worthy of a discussion or compromise in different opinions.
 
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Nice PR article for liberal ideas. It sure would be nice if just once someone could actually write something without a slant to it. Doubt that will happen anytime soon.
 
Nice PR article for liberal ideas. It sure would be nice if just once someone could actually write something without a slant to it. Doubt that will happen anytime soon.
Everything will have an inherit slant to it. It's just whether you like the slant or not.
 
And you should familiarize yourself with the employment propaganda of manufacturing companies: "We need tax cuts so we will have more money to invest in automating our processes, making our people more productive, and paying them higher wages. Then we will export American-made product to the world."
That was in 1994, before NAFTA-WITH-MEXICO and GATT-WITH-CHINA.
Now the propaganda has changed to: "We're moving the jobs to Mexico and China, where wages are low, and we don't have to invest in machinery to make our American plants productive."
Face the brutal reality, YOU are a Luddite. You favor free trade with Mexico and China because you don't want American companies to invest in automation. You want them to hire cheap labor abroad, produce their wares in foreign lands, and import the product into America instead of investing in automation to improve the productivity and increase the wages of AMERICAN workers, like those in Indiana.
YOU ARE A LUDDITE.
 
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Jeck...You are the CEO of liberal excuses and the master of liberal math. The majority means nothing. It's the rate that's important. But, of course, you must have gotten a liberal indoctrination instead of an education.
 
Here's the real truth....
The "gig economy" is the economy of last resort for downwardly mobile people who can't find steady work. It exists because the "Boomers" decided that young Americans don't need jobs. "Boomers" shipped every American job they could remove to Mexico and China out of the USA, and then opened the borders to floods of Illegals who beat wages down for the jobs that can't be moved.
Millennials can thank their greedy Boomer elders for the "gig economy." Boomers lived off the fat of the land, making sure that their employment and retirements were secure, then blew up the economy with unemployment and financial crises, and dumped the ruins in their children's laps.
Boomers left us with another legacy --- the $20 Trillion of national debt that they ran up to pay for their "golden years" on Social Security and Medicare at taxpayer expense, after wrecking employment opportunities for their children. "Boomers" have bankrupted the nation and their "Millennial" children. F you boomer pigs.
 
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I think that is true, but it sure would help if the government would quit being the job destroyer.
 
Pot...Kettle.

Actually not. As usual you used an insult instead of trying to back up your argument with a few facts.

It is a proven fact that almost all media today is of liberal ideology. That of course affects all of our news presentations on TV and radio, newspaper articles, and now even the fluff magazines that always talk about dating, gossip, and styles, want to jump into the fray.
 
I think that is true, but it sure would help if the government would quit being the job destroyer.
Gosh, yes, the government made natural gas cost so much less than coal, and it made Amazon such a better experience than going to Macy's.
 
We should be training people for jobs of the future, not chasing jobs that are never coming back.
And thinking more about how to make the transition less painful for people whose jobs are economically disadvantaged by technological advancement
 
What a load of hooey. Technology smology. The future of Wall Street investors depends on us fooling the worker bees into believing that we're using technology to increase their incomes. If the commoners ever figure out how much we're oppressing them, they'll elect more of those crazy Right-wing Populists and Left-wing Socialists who make it difficult for us to profiteer by:
1. Removing American jobs to Mexico and China.
2. Convincing our employees that they should take all the risk of the business as "independent contractors," while we take none of the risks as owners with keys to the cash till.
3. Making employees think it's their fault when we fire them. They need to believe that they're losing their jobs because they're "lacking skills and flexibility to find new opportunities." God forbid they find out we fired them in order to loot their paychecks and pensions.
Jobs are going "unfilled" because companies will not commit to making hiring decisions. They expect to hire temp workers for $10 / hour in heavy-labor factory work, and IT tech contractors for $25 to $35 hour. That's not enough to get qualified people.
Isn't it funny how business people pretend to believe in free markets for everything except labor? The concept of Supply and Demand never percolates through their narrow minds when it comes to hiring people. The formula is: raise wages until supply meets demand.
 
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Gosh, yes, the government made natural gas cost so much less than coal, and it made Amazon such a better experience than going to Macy's.

when you combine excessive taxation, government healthcare mandates, and government regulations it can destroy them pretty quick.
 
It is a major contributor. Anytime the government gets involved things get screwed up.
 
The congressional cartels are directly responsible for the unemployed. So much BS tonight.
 
when you combine excessive taxation, government healthcare mandates, and government regulations it can destroy them pretty quick.
Don't disagree with everything you say, but I do know that when I look at countries that are run by the rich like Russia I'll take our government and it's regulations every day of the week
 
Don't disagree with everything you say, but I do know that when I look at countries that are run by the rich like Russia I'll take our government and it's regulations every day of the week

Run by the rich? I'd say run by the fist and that is how they are rich. Government regulation is a form of fist.
 
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We are like a third world country spending huge on bombs and weapons while our infrastructure starts to resemble Venezuela's.
 
Hyperbole much? You need to visit some 3rd world countries.

Look at some of the streets in rural missouri. Crumbling. Water systems is disrepair. Sewage systems needing major work. Take off your blinders. Look closely at some of the bridges right here in missouri.
 
Look at some of the streets in rural missouri. Crumbling. Water systems is disrepair. Sewage systems needing major work. Take off your blinders. Look closely at some of the bridges right here in missouri.

If all infrastructure was in good shape, there would be a lot of unemployed government employees because they wouldn't be needed.
There are always things that need fixed. What percent of todays infrastructure is unusable?
 
If all infrastructure was in good shape, there would be a lot of unemployed government employees because they wouldn't be needed.
There are always things that need fixed. What percent of todays infrastructure is unusable?
Unusable isn't the standard. Third world countries have infrastructure that's useable
 
If the government didn't continually waste their money on things they shouldn't be spending it on they would have money to do infrastructure.
 
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