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millerbleach said:
Yes, do you?
An easy district is a break.
An easy quarter opponent is a break.
A nasty day when you run and the other team passes is a break.
Valle got a break today when they got Lockwood when everything else was going against them.
I haven't seen so what kind of turnover breaks did each team get today?
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bleach you sure are butthurt about lockwood being better than miller(AGAIN)
Are you more mad they kept it within 30 like miller never could?
Or is it 2-8, 3-7,3-7 the last 3 years?


Don't even use that youth excuse. Everyone else plays young players too.
 
Rufus R. Jones said:
What ever happened to the Lockwood player who returned a fumble about 50 yards vs West Platte in 01, only to trip and fall over his own feet on the 10? If I remember right, it would have given them the lead, and it was in the 4th qtr. Against a WP team that should have smoked them.
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He's a senior this year.
 
Veer2Eternity said:
bleach you sure are butthurt about lockwood being better than miller(AGAIN)
Are you more mad they kept it within 30 like miller never could?
Or is it 2-8, 3-7,3-7 the last 3 years?


Don't even use that youth excuse. Everyone else plays young players too.
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EVERYBODY on these threads knows that bleach has NOTHING to do with Miller at all for the last 40 hears but you MORON decide this is the avenue that you want to yank his chain. please be advised that i have a grandson on that team and will not listen to your crap about them for the next 8 years.
also i have a grandson in the fifth grade also so do you want to dis them also???
 
Veer2Eternity said:
bleach you sure are butthurt about lockwood being better than miller(AGAIN)
Are you more mad they kept it within 30 like miller never could?
Or is it 2-8, 3-7,3-7 the last 3 years?
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"Butthurt"? Why? What have I posted that isn't true? Lockwood had a very easy path.....no? Miller has played Valle closer than 30 multiple times. Sounds like you might have a problem.

And Miller will be just fine. Small class 1 schools have cycles. Show me one that doesn't.
 
millerbleach said:
"Butthurt"? Why? What have I posted that isn't true? Lockwood had a very easy path.....no? Miller has played Valle closer than 30 multiple times. Sounds like you might have a problem.

And Miller will be just fine. Small class 1 schools have cycles. Show me one that doesn't.
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millerbleach said:
"Butthurt"? Why? What have I posted that isn't true? Lockwood had a very easy path.....no? Miller has played Valle closer than 30 multiple times. Sounds like you might have a problem.

And Miller will be just fine. Small class 1 schools have cycles. Show me one that doesn't.
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Valle 33 Thayer 10. Lockwood was a better team at the end of the year.

I checked the history of miller v valle on mshsaa. That's the only games I could find. Perhaps you could enlighten us.
 
RawMeat said:
We interrupt this thread to bring you one of RawMeat's infamous posts that are totally off topic:

New math. Brought to mind my college calculus professor. His name was (and I'm not lying) - Yuncheng Chung.
Couldn't understand a word he was saying. College calculus would've been challenging enough. Ever try to learn it in Mandarin? It ain't easy...
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Totally know where you are coming from. I had a trig class in college with an Indian instructor. I took copious notes in class but never (and you can tell from the rest of the account that I mean never) cracked my book until studying for finals. I thought maybe I should check it out just in case.and there, to my amazement, I found that everywhere I had written in my notes about the yine and the coyine should really have written the sine and cosine. Had to blow the curve out on that final to pull an A for the semester,
 
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ChaoticFanatic said:
That's hilarious considering Lockwood would have barely made it past the first round, "IF THAT", in Thayer's district. hahahahahaha
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How can you know that? Some teams get better from losses. They were certainly the best SRVC team at the very end of the year when it counted.
 
Veer2Eternity said:
I checked the history of miller v valle on mshsaa. That's the only games I could find. Perhaps you could enlighten us.
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There have been at least 3 times including the last time. I can remember a game in St Gen back in the 90s where Valle scored late to make it 20. The last 2 times it's been real close going into the 4th. None of that matters though to anyone but you. I just thought i'd point out your ignorance on the odd chance anyone hadn't already noticed.
 
millerbleach said:
There have been at least 3 times including the last time. I can remember a game in St Gen back in the 90s where Valle scored late to make it 20. The last 2 times it's been real close going into the 4th. None of that matters though to anyone but you. I just thought i'd point out your ignorance on the odd chance anyone hadn't already noticed.
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real close going into the 4th? wow.

valle 56 miller 26
valle 42 miller 6
valle 48 miller 25

I guess there is some ignorance on display but it's not from my keyboard.
It's ok man. Lockwood played hard and gave them a game.

WEMO is so easy maybe Miller should schedule Adrian and Midway;)
 
Veer2Eternity said:
real close going into the 4th? wow.

valle 56 miller 26
valle 42 miller 6
valle 48 miller 25

I guess there is some ignorance on display but it's not from my keyboard.
It's ok man. Lockwood played hard and gave them a game.

WEMO is so easy maybe Miller should schedule Adrian and Midway;)
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I didn't see you posting the score going into the 4th. I did say the last couple too. That 42-6 game was never close and wasn't in the last couple.

Miller can't take the hit to their schedule playing WEMO teams.
 
Bleach Miller is a team that will be back. I watched Adrian 8th grade this year had they are loaded. Steen would have had an impact had he not tore up ligs in knee. I think he's a sophomore this year. The WEMO will always have the consistency of Adrian and Midway. I always thought a good program could finish 500 even in the off years. Just my thoughts
 
Miller has always had big swings. There is a lot of difference between 150 and 200 students as far as consistency. Coaching consistency and quality impact that too.
The SRVC has more schools with successful programs than the WEMO. Pierce City, Sarcoxie, Lockwood, Miller, and Greenfield (before recent developments) seem to all take turns at the top while the smaller Jasper and Liberal have had a hard time breaking through (though Jasper did for a couple years). The WEMO seems to always be Midway and Adrian with a bunch of patsies who have a good year once in a while.
 
Believe it or not I agree. Mostly conference wise the WEMO may be a thing of the past. Football participants seems to be a fighting battle in some schools. I certainly don' t think this will ever happen to the likes of midway and Adrian, but time will tell
 
Both the WEMO, & SRVC/Midwest conf. have had their ups & downs! Each conf has almost as many titles as Webb & Lamar. And combined, as many as Valle. SO na-na-a-boo-boo see ya'll 2018!!!
 
Least the WEMO is a classic... it's stayed relative the same over the ages. Fathers and sons up there can share the same all-conference team title from different generations. Unlike Midwest/MidLake/SRVC/Whatever-the-new-name is. I give the new league ten-15 years maybe... before a set of schools get a hair up their tail and want to change again. Not sure why the SRVC even formed, if everyone wanted schools with 200+ enrollment? Why didn't the certain ones stay with Fair Grove and Strafford, if strength of schedule is what they wanted? Why is Lockwood going with the new league if it is 200+ they are aiming for? Will they be voted out if they ever lose their fizz? Just pondering.
 
I have never liked the SRVC. It's just like the WEMO in the sense it offers no challenge to a top level team. Strafford and Fair Grove have substantially outgrown the small schools of SW Mo. They really fit much better in the "new" big "8". Strafford has had a hard time getting "pushed" in their better years and still win in their off years. Miller and Lockwood will be the little brothers in the new league but both have shown the ability to be pretty good most years. Other than Lockwood, I see no threat of anyone going 8-man and with the GC co-op, even that is unlikely. PH, Diamond, Stockton, and Ash Grove are the big boys now but all have shown the ability to flail at times.
I see the new conference as an opportunity for each member to build their programs. The bigger schools should be able to chalk up wins and momentum in their up years and the smaller schools should have less patsies to waste their time with in their up years.
 
Sounds like Lockwood and Miller must stay winning and not have too many down moments, or they'll be the next tail cut off. There may not be another league for them to fall back on as the WEMO should be filled with the current addition. Survival.
 
millerbleach said:
I have never liked the SRVC. It's just like the WEMO in the sense it offers no challenge to a top level team. Strafford and Fair Grove have substantially outgrown the small schools of SW Mo. They really fit much better in the "new" big "8". Strafford has had a hard time getting "pushed" in their better years and still win in their off years. Miller and Lockwood will be the little brothers in the new league but both have shown the ability to be pretty good most years. Other than Lockwood, I see no threat of anyone going 8-man and with the GC co-op, even that is unlikely. PH, Diamond, Stockton, and Ash Grove are the big boys now but all have shown the ability to flail at times.
I see the new conference as an opportunity for each member to build their programs. The bigger schools should be able to chalk up wins and momentum in their up years and the smaller schools should have less patsies to waste their time with in their up years.
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This isn't going to end well for miller.

You're basically rich hill. Very good teams over the years but got beat most of the time. Got lucky once against adrian and that got your lifetime dream. When you're down...you're way down. Congrats.
 
Baldguy said:
Sounds like Lockwood and Miller must stay winning and not have too many down moments, or they'll be the next tail cut off. There may not be another league for them to fall back on as the WEMO should be filled with the current addition. Survival.
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WEMO won't be needed as Miller has not had low numbers. I can remember a couple years with about 25 but that is as bad as it got. As long as Lockwood co-ops, they won't have problems either.
If down "moments" was a problem, no one would qualify at this level.
 
I imagine for the most part, whoever determines if you have problems, or if you are a problem to the league, won't be you. It will be the other schools in the league. This didn't work out for a certain 3 schools, and Lockwood and Miller will be the next candidates in line if those certain schools with them get an air of feeling perturbed once again. Miller and Lockwood better hope it doesn't happen and keep those bigger brothers satisfied.
 
Baldguy said:
I imagine for the most part, whoever determines if you have problems, or if you are a problem to the league, won't be you. It will be the other schools in the league. This didn't work out for a certain 3 schools, and Lockwood and Miller will be the next candidates in line if those certain schools with them get an air of feeling perturbed once again. Miller and Lockwood better hope it doesn't happen and keep those bigger brothers satisfied.
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I sense a little bitterness.
I'm sure Lockwood and Miller are shaking in their shoes.
 
millerbleach said:
I sense a little bitterness.
I'm sure Lockwood and Miller are shaking in their shoes.
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Is this the first year an SRVC won districts since going to the new format? I know the WEMO beat jasper and lockwood the last few years in district.

And Marionville and thayer owned the other srvc schools prior.
 
No real bitterness... just noting that I'm seeing history repeat itself over and over. Actually, I just watched the team I cheer for win a state title this weekend. Content.

Of course, when you are the smallest schools in a league, you need to be on guard, so to speak. Local history tells you that.... not any person's "bitterness." They may not be shaking in their shoes now... it is the honeymoon. And, of course, I may be wrong this time as well... but things do cycle... it seems more so between these various schools. We'll see.

Also, if the WEMO and other area schools were to go 8-man, it is the result of valuable rural property. Bigger farms buy smaller farms and there goes the various homesteads dotting the landscape. The Golden City District is almost to the point of being owned by a few very successful farmers. Other communities may begin feeling a similar sting. Places like Pierce City and Sarcoxie do not have such valuable soil and rural areas have stayed more intact. You can only do so much with timber. It is geography, and economics, not the community's fault they can't meet their opponent's expectations.
 
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Veer2Eternity said:
Is this the first year an SRVC won districts since going to the new format? I know the WEMO beat jasper and lockwood the last few years in district.

And Marionville and thayer owned the other srvc schools prior.
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Thayer is a tough out. Incrementally tougher than WEMO. Greenfield won through the WEMO route as well. Remember their patches? Thayer is 4-3 against PC. But yeah, WEMO..
 
Veer2Eternity said:
Is this the first year an SRVC won districts since going to the new format? I know the WEMO beat jasper and lockwood the last few years in district.

And Marionville and thayer owned the other srvc schools prior.
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Miller won that district in 2010, 2011 and 2012.. with 2010 and 2011 the 4 team district and 2012 being 8 team district.. but since then Marionville twice and Thayer the last 3 years...
so kinda makes a person think that the schedule you have may not be challenging enough?
 
revno said:
Thayer is a tough out. Incrementally tougher than WEMO. Greenfield won through the WEMO route as well. Remember their patches? Thayer is 4-3 against PC. But yeah, WEMO..
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redhead03 said:
Miller won that district in 2010, 2011 and 2012.. with 2010 and 2011 the 4 team district and 2012 being 8 team district.. but since then Marionville twice and Thayer the last 3 years...
so kinda makes a person think that the schedule you have may not be challenging enough?
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Think when Greenfield did that it was the old format and they lost to Adrian the next year.

Did Miller win the district in 2011? They lost to Skyline bad after skyline beat GF 21-0.
 
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