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UPDATED Standings Week 4 Class 4

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District 1
1 West Plains 4-0 54.67
2 Farmington 3-1 42.08
3 Sikeston 2-2 39
4 Hillsboro 3-1 35.5
5 Festus 2-2 32.58
6 North County 2-2 30
7 Desoto 2-2 29.17
8 Central ( Cape Girardeau) 1-3 23.08
District Winner- West Plains

District 2
1 Ladue Horton Watkins 4-0 56.75
2 Rockwood Summit 1-3 35
3 Roosevelt 1-3 34.17
4 Affton 2-2 30.17
5 St. Mary's (St. Louis) 1-3 25.25
6 Bishop Duborg 1-3 20.58
7 Windsor (Imperial) 0-4 16.17
8 Gateway 0-4 12.42
District Winner-Ladue

District 3
1 MICDS 4-0 51.33
2 Hazelwood East 3-1 47.25
3 Clayton 4-0 40.5
4 Parkway North 1-3 37.83
5 Jennings 2-2 32.33
6 Riverview Gardens 0-4 26.17
7 University City 0-4 18.5
8 McCluer 0-4 15.75
District Winner- comes down to the top 4 teams

District 4
1 Hannibal 2-2 41.33
2 St. Dominic 3-1 41.08
3 Priory 3-1 41
4 Ft. Zumwalt East 3-1 40.58
5 St. Charles 3-1 35.75
6 Parkway Central 1-3 29
7 Westminster Christian Academy 1-3 23.75
8 Warrenton 0-4 23.5
District Winner- UNPREDICTABLE

District 5
1 St. Francis Borgia 4-0 46.75
2 Camdenton 3-1 46.5
3 Rolla 3-1 42.58
4 Helias Catholic 2-2 33.67
5 Washington 2-2 29.67
6 Union 2-2 29.43
7 Pacific 0-4 14.58
8 Sullivan 0-4 13.67
District Winner- Comes down to the top 5 teams

District 6
1 Webb City 4-0 54.42
2 Neosho 2-2 41.67
3 Carl Junction 2-2 34.67
4 Marshfield 2-2 31.5
5 Boliver 2-2 27.42
6 McDonald County 2-2 26.92
7 Hillcrest 1-3 24
8 Monett 0-4 15.75
Everybody knows this District Winner
WEBB CITY

District 7
1 Warrensburg 4-0 54.42
2 Lincoln College Prep 3-1 37.64
3 Van Horn 3-1 36.73
4 Grandview 2-2 36.42
5 Grain Valley 31.75
6 Raytown South 1-3 26.58
7 Harrisonville 1-3 24.45
8 East (Kansas City) 0-4 11.17
District Winner- comes down to Warrensburg and Van Horn

District 8
1 Smithville 4-0 51.33
2 Platte County 3-1 44.83
3 Excelsior Springs 4-0 44.67
4 Kearney 3-1 43.17
5 Lafayette (St. Joseph) 3- 1 36.67
6 Kirksville 2-2 31.5
7 Marshall 1-3 21.75
8 Winnetonka 1-3 19.58
District Winner- UNPREDICTABLE
 
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District 7 Grain Valley would still be my favorite, with Warrensburg right behind them. But don’t count Harrisonville out quite yet
 
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District 8
1 Smithville 3-0 53
2 Excelsior Springs 3-0 44.67
3 Lafayette (St. Joseph) 3-0 44.33
4 Platte County 2-1 42.67
5 Kearney 2-1 42.67
6 Kirksville 2-1 36.33
7 Marshall 1-2 25
8 Winnetonka 1-2 19.33
District Winner- KEARNEY

Smithville had one good play in the jamboree against K. The rest of the time SV was shut down on all the Varsity plays. K moved the ball pretty well on Smithville. It will be an interesting game. But it didnt look like when it comes down to it that SV will stay up. However, turnovers and crazy things can happen.

No one else in this district will stay within 20 points of K.
K beat PC 28-7. But the score is deceptive. It could easily have been 42-7.
 
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District 8
1 Smithville 3-0 53
2 Excelsior Springs 3-0 44.67
3 Lafayette (St. Joseph) 3-0 44.33
4 Platte County 2-1 42.67
5 Kearney 2-1 42.67
6 Kirksville 2-1 36.33
7 Marshall 1-2 25
8 Winnetonka 1-2 19.33
District Winner- KEARNEY

Smithville had one good play in the jamboree against K. The rest of the time SV was shut down on all the Varsity plays. K moved the ball pretty well on Smithville. It will be an interesting game. But it didnt look like when it comes down to it that SV will stay up. However, turnovers and crazy things can happen.

No one else in this district will stay within 20 points of K.
K beat PC 28-7. But the score is deceptive. It could easily have been 42-7.

And here I was thinking that football was played weekly and not that the game is over and the deal is sealed and done preemptively via statistics lol.
 
So let me hear your week by week theory on how Webb won't be in the final?
No argument from me. Webb is supposed to be in the final, and SV or Kearney, depending on who wins the 2 game series will meet the best team left
 
Then SV is due.

Well, considering Smithville's history against PC and Kearney, are you thinking they are due to hit? 2-12 since 2006. They haven't shown me anything (from the level of teams they have played so far) to think they can beat Kearney or PC, but that will be figured out by October. All the more amazing if they can make a breakthrough. Not holding my breath.

Smithville v. Kearney (0-3)

2014 Lost 3-24
2011 Lost 0-28
2010 Lost 14-56

Smithville v. Platte County (who is 1-15 v. Kearney) (2-9)

2017 Lost 13-42
2016 Lost 14-39
2015 Lost 7-23
2014 won 44-38
2013 Won 40-32
2012 Lost 21-27
2010 Lost 29-43
2007 Lost 15-23
2006 Lost 7-37
2005 Lost 14-45
2004 Lost 28-49
 
Well, considering Smithville's history against PC and Kearney, are you thinking they are due to hit? 2-12 since 2006. They haven't shown me anything (from the level of teams they have played so far) to think they can beat Kearney or PC, but that will be figured out by October. All the more amazing if they can make a breakthrough. Not holding my breath.

Smithville v. Kearney (0-3)

2014 Lost 3-24
2011 Lost 0-28
2010 Lost 14-56

Smithville v. Platte County (who is 1-15 v. Kearney) (2-9)

2017 Lost 13-42
2016 Lost 14-39
2015 Lost 7-23
2014 won 44-38
2013 Won 40-32
2012 Lost 21-27
2010 Lost 29-43
2007 Lost 15-23
2006 Lost 7-37
2005 Lost 14-45
2004 Lost 28-49
Nothing gets by you, brilliant! A bunch of teams have worse records versus Kearney. Aren't you the guy that reminds the Webbies they have losing record versus Kearney?
I'm a Prediction King. There's no risk for me to claim Smithville is a much better team than Platte County in 2018 and on paper, they should win.
Keernie has PCs #.
Now for Keernie in 2017 they lost to a lowly MEC team. So anyone can run out of gas and become vulnerable.
 
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Nothing gets by you, brilliant! A bunch of teams have worse records versus Kearney. Aren't you the guy that reminds the Webbies they have losing record versus Kearney?
I'm a Prediction King. There's no risk for me to claim Smithville is a much better team than Platte County in 2018 and on paper, they should win.
Keernie has PCs #.

Here is a prediction, Smithville will lose to PC, then to Kearney. AGAIN.
 
Sounds like JN seems to forget how Kearney's season ended last year. Against an average Lafayette team that had 2 loses in the MEC.

Again, they had the worst defense they've had in five or six years last year--and they had one talented player go off on them they couldn't adjust to.. Not the case this year. This is one of the best defenses they have had in the past 4-5 years, and you know where two of those teams ended up? So nice try, but until I see Smithville hoisting a trophy, it is Kearney v. Webb in the final.
 
Again, they had the worst defense they've had in five or six years last year--and they had one talented player go off on them they couldn't adjust to.. Not the case this year. This is one of the best defenses they have had in the past 4-5 years, and you know where two of those teams ended up? So nice try, but until I see Smithville hoisting a trophy, it is Kearney v. Webb in the final.
Don't count the STL schools out especially Ladue.
 
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Sounds like JN seems to forget how Kearney's season ended last year. Against an average Lafayette team that had 2 loses in the MEC.
A very streaky team that one week blasted a very good Chillicothe then laid an egg at Smithville the next. Teams like that can be very dangerous on a given night as they proved. That being said JN is correct about the D. I knew, once I got back to days and could go to games last October, K was in trouble. Never know when the injury bug can hit but, all things being equal, this is a whole different year/team. The other factor I told several last year was this was a JR heavy team with good returning numbers. So far so good........
 
Actually the score was 28-6, however nobody that was either at the game or knew s#it about football would make such an asinine statement.
That being said JN is correct about the D. I knew, once I got back to days and could go to games last October, K was in trouble. Never know when the injury bug can hit but, all things being equal, this is a whole different year/team. The other factor I told several last year was this was a JR heavy team with good returning numbers. So far so good........

Actually, this years D is younger than last seasons. I believe that only 2 underclassmen started last year, with one or two others getting significant reps. The real problem with last years D was they had a sieve at cb and they simply didn't make personnel changes to fix it. There were a lot of good parts on that D and it could have been salty.
I think this years D will continue to improve as the season goes on. That said, they haven't faced the caliber of receivers/qbs that last years team saw (such as Gicento & the kids at PC.)
 
Sounds like JN seems to forget how Kearney's season ended last year. Against an average Lafayette team that had 2 loses in the MEC.

JN only remembers what makes his point.
Just wondering how good Kearneys defense is. I mean they have played a couple mediocre at best and of course a great team in Staley which they gave up like 600 yards of offense. I mean definately not taking anything away from Staley offense but sorta questioning Ks great defense. 600 yards of offense against a GREAT Defense! Something doesn't sound right.
 
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JN only remembers what makes his point.
Just wondering how good Kearneys defense is. I mean they have played a couple mediocre at best and of course a great team in Staley which they gave up like 600 yards of offense. I mean definately not taking anything away from Staley offense but sorta questioning Ks great defense. 600 yards of offense against a GREAT Defense! Something doesn't sound right.
Depends on how bad the offense played. Points allowed are the most important take away from a game like that. They were a great defense at not getting blown out of clay county.
 
Actually the score was 28-6, however nobody that was either at the game or knew s#it about football would make such an asinine statement.


Actually, this years D is younger than last seasons. I believe that only 2 underclassmen started last year, with one or two others getting significant reps. The real problem with last years D was they had a sieve at cb and they simply didn't make personnel changes to fix it. There were a lot of good parts on that D and it could have been salty.
I think this years D will continue to improve as the season goes on. That said, they haven't faced the caliber of receivers/qbs that last years team saw (such as Gicento & the kids at PC.)
Always love your insight as you are much closer (I have been working nights the past five seasons so haven't been as in touch as I would like) to the program than I. Just my fan observations, though, from the games I did attend 2016-2017 I thought the D lacked overall team speed and that is not the case at all in 2018 so far...........
 
JN only remembers what makes his point.
Just wondering how good Kearneys defense is. I mean they have played a couple mediocre at best and of course a great team in Staley which they gave up like 600 yards of offense. I mean definately not taking anything away from Staley offense but sorta questioning Ks great defense. 600 yards of offense against a GREAT Defense! Something doesn't sound right.
Staley has a big time back nobody is talking about YET. I've been watching this sport since the 70s can usually see the difference no matter what team they are playing and can tell you this one is the real deal, probably on par with 2015 except Garrett (now a big star at MU) was a very rare talent. The one concern I have with this year's team both sides of the ball is lack of depth. Should any of the "stars" go down things will change and fast.
 
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JN only remembers what makes his point.
Just wondering how good Kearneys defense is. I mean they have played a couple mediocre at best and of course a great team in Staley which they gave up like 600 yards of offense. I mean definately not taking anything away from Staley offense but sorta questioning Ks great defense. 600 yards of offense against a GREAT Defense! Something doesn't sound right.

He's a troll (it was more like 450sh v Staley though). This D is not as good as the '15 version that had Garrett in the middle & Harris as a shut-down corner. Nobody on this D will be starting at Mizzou next season (ala Garrett as a true frosh.) This D has some good parts & a lot of inexperienced players - it will get better as the season goes on....
 
Depends on how bad the offense played. Points allowed are the most important take away from a game like that. They were a great defense at not getting blown out of clay county.
Throw out last week's result that was 2 factors: weather and LS is also the real deal this year. Tonight vs. Blue Springs will be extremely interesting.
 
He's a troll (it was more like 450sh v Staley though). This D is not as good as the '15 version that had Garrett in the middle & Harris as a shut-down corner. Nobody on this D will be starting at Mizzou next season (ala Garrett as a true frosh.) This D has some good parts & a lot of inexperienced players - it will get better as the season goes on....
He's a troll (it was more like 450sh v Staley though). This D is not as good as the '15 version that had Garrett in the middle & Harris as a shut-down corner. Nobody on this D will be starting at Mizzou next season (ala Garrett as a true frosh.) This D has some good parts & a lot of inexperienced players - it will get better as the season goes on....
Just saying but think Mordecai in particular is more than just a "good part". We shall see, though.
 
Always love your insight as you are much closer (I have been working nights the past five seasons so haven't been as in touch as I would like) to the program than I. Just my fan observations, though, from the games I did attend 2016-2017 I thought the D lacked overall team speed and that is not the case at all in 2018 so far...........

Thanks Top...last year was a really frustrating one to watch - Grays first year of coaching...I thought he could have made moves to fix that D (tough spot for him, as his son was in that class - not saying he was one; but I always figured that Josh "grew up" with most of those kids and just didn't make the tough move of sending someone to the bench....no names.) K has enough kids out for football, speed should never be an issue.
I'm not a fan of the soft corner coverage, at some point I think their going to have real issues with a team that's willing to take what they're giving (PC might have done that on a dry field - their small qb had trouble with that wet ball.) Like I said, a lot of kids that haven't played V football out there - even if they are Srs I expect the D to get better.

Connery is the guy that has to stay healthy!!

Edit: Yeah, Chopper's a stud - he was last year as well...Garrett was a beast as a frosh @ K though.
 
JN only remembers what makes his point.
Just wondering how good Kearneys defense is. I mean they have played a couple mediocre at best and of course a great team in Staley which they gave up like 600 yards of offense. I mean definately not taking anything away from Staley offense but sorta questioning Ks great defense. 600 yards of offense against a GREAT Defense! Something doesn't sound right.

Just making up numbers now? Staley had 248 yards rushing (445) total So do you always exaggerate about numbers and size, even with the ladies?
 
He's a troll (it was more like 450sh v Staley though). This D is not as good as the '15 version that had Garrett in the middle & Harris as a shut-down corner. Nobody on this D will be starting at Mizzou next season (ala Garrett as a true frosh.) This D has some good parts & a lot of inexperienced players - it will get better as the season goes on....

True that. Maxpreps included punt return yardage. Offense was more in the mid 400s. Pretty even offense, 200 passing 200+ rushing and as Top said #23 Moss was beast mode with like 178 of the rushing yards. Guess that's a little better D than 600, lol. Thanks for the correction.
 
Webbies...don't be blabbing about strength of schedule PLEASE.

Class 4 Rank School Schedule Strength though game 3
1 Carl Junction (MO) . . . 24.8
2 Kearney (MO) . . . 24.1
3 Parkway Central (Chesterfield, MO) . . . 20.1
4 Parkway North (St. Louis, MO) . . . 19.7
5 Harrisonville (MO) . . . 17
6 Helias (Jefferson City, MO) . . . 16.7
7 Monett (MO) . . . 15.8
8 Webb City (MO) . . . 14.5
9 Platte County (Platte City, MO) . . . 13.8
10 Riverview Gardens (St. Louis, MO) . . . 12.1
 
True that. Maxpreps included punt return yardage. Offense was more in the mid 400s. Pretty even offense, 200 passing 200+ rushing and as Top said #23 Moss was beast mode with like 178 of the rushing yards. Guess that's a little better D than 600, lol. Thanks for the correction.

You are about 150 yards off genius.
 
True that. Maxpreps included punt return yardage. Offense was more in the mid 400s. Pretty even offense, 200 passing 200+ rushing and as Top said #23 Moss was beast mode with like 178 of the rushing yards. Guess that's a little better D than 600, lol. Thanks for the correction.
I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Jaden Moss at the Simone ceremony in December as a finalist. He should have quite the night tonight!
 
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Webbies...don't be blabbing about strength of schedule PLEASE.

Class 4 Rank School Schedule Strength though game 3
1 Carl Junction (MO) . . . 24.8
2 Kearney (MO) . . . 24.1
3 Parkway Central (Chesterfield, MO) . . . 20.1
4 Parkway North (St. Louis, MO) . . . 19.7
5 Harrisonville (MO) . . . 17
6 Helias (Jefferson City, MO) . . . 16.7
7 Monett (MO) . . . 15.8
8 Webb City (MO) . . . 14.5
9 Platte County (Platte City, MO) . . . 13.8
10 Riverview Gardens (St. Louis, MO) . . . 12.1
As a CJ Bulldog, I can blab about strength of schedule. This is one area where we will beat Webb every year going forward with the current alignment in the regular season.
 
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