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Trump's arrogance defeated himself.......

kaskaskiakid

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On Jan 1, 2020, Trump was a shoo-in to win reelection.

Then, covid hit the US. No one expected the president to be an expert on infectious diseases or medical science. All Trump had to do was say "We are in unchartered waters and I am relying on the best advice of the best medical and scientific experts in the world in dealing with the coronavirus." Any mistakes made in the decisions made by the experts would not have fallen in Trump's lap.

Instead, Trump tried to make himself out as an expert on infectious diseases. He ignored the threat, downplayed it, and flat out lied to the American people. He has been 100% wrong on the pathology of covid from the very beginning when he proclaimed it was just a "bad cold" and "going to disappear" and "we have it under control", all the way until the present day when he has proclaimed "we have rounded the corner" as the virus is surging at record levels as predicted with the return of flu season.

Trump's handling of covid is why he lost. Most Americans would have given him a free pass on handling covid if he would have stated from the beginning that "I am not a medical or scientific expert on infectious diseases". No one expected him to be!! He would have been given a free pass on the handling of covid among most Americans even when the experts were wrong. Instead, he lied and continues to lie despite the advice of experts,

Trump's own arrogance and big mouth defeated him.
 
On Jan 1, 2020, Trump was a shoo-in to win reelection.

Then, covid hit the US. No one expected the president to be an expert on infectious diseases or medical science. All Trump had to do was say "We are in unchartered waters and I am relying on the best advice of the best medical and scientific experts in the world in dealing with the coronavirus." Any mistakes made in the decisions made by the experts would not have fallen in Trump's lap.

Instead, Trump tried to make himself out as an expert on infectious diseases. He ignored the threat, downplayed it, and flat out lied to the American people. He has been 100% wrong on the pathology of covid from the very beginning when he proclaimed it was just a "bad cold" and "going to disappear" and "we have it under control", all the way until the present day when he has proclaimed "we have rounded the corner" as the virus is surging at record levels as predicted with the return of flu season.

Trump's handling of covid is why he lost. Most Americans would have given him a free pass on handling covid if he would have stated from the beginning that "I am not a medical or scientific expert on infectious diseases". No one expected him to be!! He would have been given a free pass on the handling of covid among most Americans even when the experts were wrong. Instead, he lied and continues to lie despite the advice of experts,

Trump's own arrogance and big mouth defeated him.

kaskaskiakid just hit another home run in the above post.
 
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100% correct. I believe that’s how Biden became the nominee, Dems and pretty much everyone else at the time knew Trump was a shoo in, why run an up and comer who was sure to lose against Trump. Save the best for 2024. Trump blows it w Covid, refuses to stop the twitter nonsense, acts like a fool at the first debate, and Biden wins.

I know a lot of conservatives, including family members, eventually got totally fed up with Trumps’s antics and voted for Biden.
 
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If he had been more "truthful" or forthright about covid it would have accomplished what? Who wouldn't have gotten sick or died?

Trump downplayed the severity or likely affects. Trump also didn't really know the severity or affects, no one did. If you ask me, the whole thing has been overblown.

Do you trust someone who has continually lied to you? Only a fool does, especially in a life or death situation. His lies obviously caused some deaths. Have you not seen the death bed testimonies of people who wished they had taken the virus seriously? Have you not heard the Woodward tapes?

There is no one to blame but Trump himself. If not for his failure with covid, Trump gets reelected!!
 
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On Jan 1, 2020, Trump was a shoo-in to win reelection.

Then, covid hit the US. No one expected the president to be an expert on infectious diseases or medical science. All Trump had to do was say "We are in unchartered waters and I am relying on the best advice of the best medical and scientific experts in the world in dealing with the coronavirus." Any mistakes made in the decisions made by the experts would not have fallen in Trump's lap.

Instead, Trump tried to make himself out as an expert on infectious diseases. He ignored the threat, downplayed it, and flat out lied to the American people. He has been 100% wrong on the pathology of covid from the very beginning when he proclaimed it was just a "bad cold" and "going to disappear" and "we have it under control", all the way until the present day when he has proclaimed "we have rounded the corner" as the virus is surging at record levels as predicted with the return of flu season.

Trump's handling of covid is why he lost. Most Americans would have given him a free pass on handling covid if he would have stated from the beginning that "I am not a medical or scientific expert on infectious diseases". No one expected him to be!! He would have been given a free pass on the handling of covid among most Americans even when the experts were wrong. Instead, he lied and continues to lie despite the advice of experts,

Trump's own arrogance and big mouth defeated him.

This has been Trumps problem all along, he wants to play the expert on Television but the issue is he is not he just cannot help himself. I know I will take a lot of heat for this, but he could have been a decent president had he just not let his ego get in the way. His people would do anything for him I remember one person saying the President is the most tested person in the world, all he had to do in an interview the next few days was say yeah I am tested alot my people make sure of that. But no he threw his people under the bus and said no I don't agree with that I am not tested that much. There are many examples of this....it just drove me nuts and I always wondered why would he do things like that. His people could have said the sky will be blue in the morning and he would come out and say well I just don't believe that. He never supported anybody who worked under him or even any of his own policies, it just drove me nuts.
 
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That's who Trump is, bullit - an arrogant, narcissistic, egomaniac. A leopard can't change it's spots.
 
That's who Trump is, bullit - an arrogant, narcissistic, egomaniac. A leopard can't change it's spots.

He is the boss you never want to work for, when things go right he takes all the credit, when things go bad his people will take the blame. Like I said I really liked his polices....but the man himself was hard to take. I wanted him to succeed...
 
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This has been Trumps problem all along, he wants to play the expert on Television but the issue is he is not he just cannot help himself. I know I will take a lot of heat for this, but he could have been a decent president had he just not let his ego get in the way. His people would do anything for him I remember one person saying the President is the most tested person in the world, all he had to do in an interview the next few days was say yeah I am tested alot my people make sure of that. But no he threw his people under the bus and said no I don't agree with that I am not tested that much. There are many examples of this....it just drove me nuts and I always wondered why would he do things like that. His people could have said the sky will be blue in the morning and he would come out and say well I just don't believe that. He never supported anybody who worked under him or even any of his own policies, it just drove me nuts.

You are totally right, he could have been a great president. The idea of him being an outsider, drain the swamp, etc. was all great in theory. Reality was his ego overrode everything else. Turned out he didn't drain the swamp afterall. Immigration reform could have been done much better than through the wall. I could go on and on. What gets me is how his biggest supporters are those that he literally has nothing in common with. For what it's worth, I don't care for either party.
 
You are totally right, he could have been a great president. The idea of him being an outsider, drain the swamp, etc. was all great in theory. Reality was his ego overrode everything else. Turned out he didn't drain the swamp afterall. Immigration reform could have been done much better than through the wall. I could go on and on. What gets me is how his biggest supporters are those that he literally has nothing in common with. For what it's worth, I don't care for either party.
It's amazing how many people vote against their own self interests and well being...
 
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Our case counts are way up and each week I am now seeing fewer and fewer people wearing mask, so many people think well hell I don't know what they think, but I don't think that it is a Trump thing I think it is just an American thing. Americans just don't like anybody telling them what they need to do no matter if it is in thier best interest. Hell helmets save lives on Motorcycle's yet states are passing laws that no longer require them...just crazy.
 
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Our case counts are way up and each week I am now seeing fewer and fewer people wearing mask, so many people think well hell I don't know what they think, but I don't think that it is a Trump thing I think it is just an American thing. Americans just don't like anybody telling them what they need to do no matter if it is in thier best interest. Hell helmets save lives on Motorcycle's yet states are passing laws that no longer require them...just crazy.
Helmets would save thousands of lives if they were required in cars (massive head injuries are the #1 cause of death in car crashes, 52% )
Would you support making everyone on motor vehicles wear approved helmets??? It would save a thousand times more lives than the people killed on motorcycles
 
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This is just wrong. Trump's most ardent followers that worship his every word would have listened to him and taken at least some precautions.




Take the L. Sometimes I wish Joe was the socialist Trump claims he is because it would piss you boomers off even more. The country rejected Trump. He'll lose by 5-7 million votes. He'll go down as a political failure for not winning a second term. It's over. You were wrong.
I don’t think a non politician who was elected President of the United States would ever be considered a political failure.

That’s why John McCain hated Trump so bad. Donnie succeeded doing in one year what McCain unsuccessfully spent his entire life trying to do.
 
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I guess i'm not one of Trumps most ardent followers then.

Trump is losing by less than 50k votes. There is no national vote. If there was a national vote, how many more votes would Trump have gotten in Ca.? How many more would Biden have got? You can't claim something that doesn't exist happened. If you want to say Biden has received X number more votes nationwide, that is accurate but Trump is losing by the amount of difference in Pa. and Nev. or Az.
Chris you are a clown. Not counting Georgia, trump is down 96,545 and Biden is still getting votes. With Georgia's 11,595 Biden has 108,140 and counting.
 
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