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Top 10: Classes 1 to 6.

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Class 6
1. DeSmet. Until proven otherwise.
2. Liberty North. Have played a harder schedule than DeSmet. Still 11-0.
3. Ray-Pec. Might just knock off LN this week.
4. Rock. Hardest schedule in the state. Great D.
5. Park Hill
6. Joplin. Lucky that Webb fumbled five times.
7. CBC. Lost 34-14 to Rock. Exposed.
8. Francis Howell
9. Marquette.
10.Fort Zum West.

Class 5
1. Fort Zum North Quality wins. Still--horrendously easy schedule.
2. Staley. (2nd hardest schedule in the top 10.)
3. Eureka
4.Carthage
5. Jackson
6. Raytown
7. Chaminade
8.NKC
9. Nixa
10. Battle

Class 4

1. Webb
2. Platte County. No one in the top 10 close to the level of this schedule.
3. Camdenton
4. Bolivar
5. Smithville
6. Ladue
7. West Plains
8. Farmington
9. Willard
10.Rockwood Summit

Class 3

1. Odessa. 9 turbo clock victories. Crushed all comers.
2. Blair Oaks.
3. Savannah
4. Trinity
5.Kennet
6. Cassville
7. Monnett
8. Center
9. Seneca
10.Lutheran- St. Peters

Class 2

1. Lutheran North. Best Schedule
2. Maryville
3. Lathrop.
4. Summit Christian
5. Ava
6. Lamar
7. Hallsville
8.Lawson
9. FairGrove
10. Lafayette

Class 1

1. Lincoln
2. Mid Buchanan
3. Thayer
4. Hayti
5. Valle Catholic
6.Pierce City
7. South Harrison
8.Adrian
9. Windsor
10. Gallatin.
 
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Don't see how you have a team in the top ten rankings that isn't in the playoffs anymore... Just by numbers they out of the top 16 now if they aren't playing this Friday. Ex. Smithville lost to Platte County in the round of 32 so they can't be in the top ten with 16 teams left. I know no one else feels this way just my opinion.
 
Don't see how you have a team in the top ten rankings that isn't in the playoffs anymore... Just by numbers they out of the top 16 now if they aren't playing this Friday. Ex. Smithville lost to Platte County in the round of 32 so they can't be in the top ten with 16 teams left. I know no one else feels this way just my opinion.
Is Smithville better than any teams left in the playoffs?
 
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Don't see how you have a team in the top ten rankings that isn't in the playoffs anymore... Just by numbers they out of the top 16 now if they aren't playing this Friday. Ex. Smithville lost to Platte County in the round of 32 so they can't be in the top ten with 16 teams left. I know no one else feels this way just my opinion.

That’s common sense to me. Not sure how teams can be ahead of teams still in the hunt. Metaphors don’t matter now. The teams still playing are belonging in the rankings.
 
Don't see how you have a team in the top ten rankings that isn't in the playoffs anymore... Just by numbers they out of the top 16 now if they aren't playing this Friday. Ex. Smithville lost to Platte County in the round of 32 so they can't be in the top ten with 16 teams left. I know no one else feels this way just my opinion.

Nope. Just because you lose to a higher ranked team doesn't move you behind inferior teams. Sorry Charlie.
 
Teams still playing are who matter. That’s the results that continue until someone is crowned. Sorry.

Sorry but Lincoln Prep won't matter to Platte County. They are not as good as Smithville or Kearney for that matter. Just because they use a moronic scoring system doesn't mean they are a better team. They aren't.
 
They lost to the #2 team in the state. Are you dense?

No I understand the system. Do I need to repeat myself? Number crunching and rankings don’t matter when teams go home, and others are still playing. This is win or go home. Once you are home, who you have played or not played is as meaningful as teams who went home first round in districts. Sorry. Those are the facts.
 
Class 6
1. DeSmet. Until proven otherwise.
2. Liberty North. Have played a harder schedule than DeSmet. Still 11-0.
3. Ray-Pec. Might just knock off LN this week.
4. Rock. Hardest schedule in the state. Great D.
5. Park Hill
6. Joplin. Lucky that Webb fumbled five times.
7. CBC. Lost 34-14 to Rock. Exposed.
8. Francis Howell
9. Marquette.
10.Fort Zum West.

Class 5
1. Fort Zum North Quality wins. Still--horrendously easy schedule.
2. Staley. (2nd hardest schedule in the top 10.)
3. Eureka
4.Carthage
5. Jackson
6. Raytown
7. Chaminade
8.NKC
9. Nixa
10. Battle

Class 4

1. Webb
2. Platte County. No one in the top 10 close to the level of this schedule.
3. Camdenton
4. Bolivar
5. Smithville
6. Ladue
7. West Plains
8. Farmington
9. Willard
10.Rockwood Summit

Class 3

1. Odessa. 9 turbo clock victories. Crushed all comers.
2. Blair Oaks.
3. Savannah
4. Trinity
5.Kennet
6. Cassville
7. Monnett
8. Center
9. Seneca
10.Lutheran- St. Peters

Class 2

1. Lutheran North. Best Schedule
2. Maryville
3. Lathrop.
4. Summit Christian
5. Ava
6. Lamar
7. Hallsville
8.Lawson
9. FairGrove
10. Lafayette

Class 1

1. Lincoln
2. Mid Buchanan
3. Thayer
4. Hayti
5. Valle Catholic
6.Pierce City
7. South Harrison
8.Adrian
9. Windsor
10. Gallatin.

Of course, giving Carthage zero credit for playing Joplin better than anyone and only losing by a half a yard (and also outgaining them overall. Joplin should have two losses.
I would bet money on Eureka winning class 5, though.
 
Sorry but Lincoln Prep won't matter to Platte County. They are not as good as Smithville or Kearney for that matter. Just because they use a moronic scoring system doesn't mean they are a better team. They aren't.
You still don’t comprehend this situation. This is about win or go home. If you win, you go on. If you lose? You are not relevant any longer. That’s how it is until you go home. Until one team remains. Doesn’t matter the rankings before the game or who you have played. If you lost you lost. No computer is going to fix that. Or set of individuals who debates who’s the best.
 
I actually agree with JNReturns here.. He never said he was putting out of "best of whats left" rankings.. He was simply ranking the best teams in each class. Some districts are loaded and others are embarrassing. There is no doubt there are teams that are at home that are better than some still playing. I may disagree with the ranking order (or not) but that doesn't matter. His method is right.
 
Don't see how you have a team in the top ten rankings that isn't in the playoffs anymore... Just by numbers they out of the top 16 now if they aren't playing this Friday. Ex. Smithville lost to Platte County in the round of 32 so they can't be in the top ten with 16 teams left. I know no one else feels this way just my opinion.
You are right in a true 1-64 seeded tournament but in a system where you are limited by region some districts are weaker than other ones it is possible a team that was seeded 2nd in one district could be seeded 5th in another. Just because a team is not playing anymore doesn't necessarily mean they would lose head to head to a team that is. Rankings are ranked by body of work not where you are projected to finish the season otherwise you would have to make sure you rank one team from each district.
 
That logic makes no sense. The best teams in the state play each other before the state championship game all the time. Very rarely is it the best two teams that make it to the state championship game

That’s not how it works. If you’re at the point of win or go home. Rankings should reflect current situation. Currently there’s teams who are moving on who deserve to be ranked higher as they win. Sorry feelings are getting hurt here. It’s not factual to continue to rank teams who are currently not relevant. Why? They lost. There’s no more games. They are done.
 
Playoffs only decide the #1. Everything below #1 can be debated. The number 2 can be knocked out in a tough district and never make it to the finals. Doesn't mean they are not the second best team. One time, Dallas Fortworth had the #1,#2 #5, and #6 4 x 100 meter relays in the nation. Guess what? Two of those teams didn't make it out of districts. Does that mean they still weren't #6 and and #5 in the nation? Bullsh*t if you say they arent. The times proved it.
 
There are teams that are top 10 in their class that are done, for sure. I say it all the time- the system is not meant to determine #2-64 or whatever. It is meant to determine a champion. The current system is slightly more likely to have the best teams still playing than the old system of 4 team districts. But it is no more likely to effectively determine the best team, the old system did that just fine. The teams still playing are definitely not the top 16- that would defy logic.
 
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That’s not how it works. If you’re at the point of win or go home. Rankings should reflect current situation. Currently there’s teams who are moving on who deserve to be ranked higher as they win. Sorry feelings are getting hurt here. It’s not factual to continue to rank teams who are currently not relevant. Why? They lost. There’s no more games. They are done.
The only feelings getting hurt are yours.
 
That’s not how it works. If you’re at the point of win or go home. Rankings should reflect current situation. Currently there’s teams who are moving on who deserve to be ranked higher as they win. Sorry feelings are getting hurt here. It’s not factual to continue to rank teams who are currently not relevant. Why? They lost. There’s no more games. They are done.

Playoffs only decide the #1. Everything below #1 can be debated. The number 2 can be knocked out in a tough district and never make it to the finals. Doesn't mean they are not the second best team. One time, Dallas Fortworth had the #1,#2 #5, and #6 4 x 100 meter relays in the nation. Guess what? Two of those teams didn't make it out of districts. Does that mean they still weren't #6 and and #5 in the nation? Bullsh*t if you say they arent. The times proved it.
 
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Playoffs only decide the #1. Everything below #1 can be debated. The number 2 can be knocked out in a tough district and never make it to the finals. Doesn't mean they are not the second best team. One time, Dallas Fortworth had the #1,#2 #5, and #6 4 x 100 meter relays in the nation. Guess what? Two of those teams didn't make it out of districts. Does that mean they still weren't #6 and and #5 in the nation? Bullsh*t if you say they arent. The times proved it.

Sorry that you’re wrong
 
Playoffs only decide the #1. Everything below #1 can be debated. The number 2 can be knocked out in a tough district and never make it to the finals. Doesn't mean they are not the second best team. One time, Dallas Fortworth had the #1,#2 #5, and #6 4 x 100 meter relays in the nation. Guess what? Two of those teams didn't make it out of districts. Does that mean they still weren't #6 and and #5 in the nation? Bullsh*t if you say they arent. The times proved it.
Also? All rankings are subjective, and not at all factual. Opnions
 
You're the only one trying to quantify them.

No I’m not, but keeping giving minimal effort. Lol I’m asking for real rankings which would have pretend written all over it. The only teams that matter are still playing. Week after week that’s the case
 
That’s not how it works. If you’re at the point of win or go home. Rankings should reflect current situation. Currently there’s teams who are moving on who deserve to be ranked higher as they win. Sorry feelings are getting hurt here. It’s not factual to continue to rank teams who are currently not relevant. Why? They lost. There’s no more games. They are done.
Once again, you're inability to read and comprehend the original post is showing through. You should really started having someone read these to you.

He's not ranking the teams that are left. He's saying "If the season were over right now, these are the top ten teams." Basing you're rankings off the playoffs is fine, but you're leaning more heavily towards finish, not necessarily who the best teams are.

Based on you're logic, Ray-Pec should be ranked higher than Rockhurst, but on the last thread, you were arguing to use real scores, not projections. Well, damn, that throws a wrench in things. Rockhurst beat Ray-Pec.... so Rockhurst is ranked higher than Ray-Pec.... Wait, no, Rockhurst is done, they can't be ranked higher... Which one is it?
 
Sorry that you’re wrong

Also? All rankings are subjective, and not at all factual. Opnions

If all rankings are opinions, and not factual, then how can you say he's wrong in the immediately proceeding post...

You're just making poor attempts at out smarting people that are smarter than you, and know 10x as much about high school football than you.
 
Once again, you're inability to read and comprehend the original post is showing through. You should really started having someone read these to you.

He's not ranking the teams that are left. He's saying "If the season were over right now, these are the top ten teams." Basing you're rankings off the playoffs is fine, but you're leaning more heavily towards finish, not necessarily who the best teams are.

Based on you're logic, Ray-Pec should be ranked higher than Rockhurst, but on the last thread, you were arguing to use real scores, not projections. Well, damn, that throws a wrench in things. Rockhurst beat Ray-Pec.... so Rockhurst is ranked higher than Ray-Pec.... Wait, no, Rockhurst is done, they can't be ranked higher... Which one is it?

Oh so fantasies? Not reality? It’s not current and factual at all? Ok I wouldn’t have participated if I knew that. Thanks! You didn’t really give me anything to respond to outside the first paragraph. Yawn
 
If all rankings are opinions, and not factual, then how can you say he's wrong in the immediately proceeding post...

You're just making poor attempts at out smarting people that are smarter than you, and know 10x as much about high school football than you.
If all rankings are opinions, and not factual, then how can you say he's wrong in the immediately proceeding post...

You're just making poor attempts at out smarting people that are smarter than you, and know 10x as much about high school football than you.

You make me laugh. Little man lol
 
If all rankings are opinions, and not factual, then how can you say he's wrong in the immediately proceeding post...

You're just making poor attempts at out smarting people that are smarter than you, and know 10x as much about high school football than you.

He was literally arguing rankings are super accurate. Every year the playoffs prove them wrong. There’s not just one argument or point being made.
 
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