There was a good guy with a gun there in Oregon
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So you reference a story by "Raw Story", a very liberal site, which may be true, or may be a complete fabrication, as the end all, be all proof that having a concealed weapon is of no value.
Because one student on a college campus has a gun, is not near the scene of the attack, and wisely chooses to stay away,...........this proves your point?.........
Don't recall you calling the crackpot neocon sites 'no value'.So you reference a story by "Raw Story", a very liberal site, which may be true, or may be a complete fabrication, as the end all, be all proof that having a concealed weapon is of no value.
Because one student on a college campus has a gun, is not near the scene of the attack, and wisely chooses to stay away,...........this proves your point?.........
But hey...
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Nice rebuttal, you continue to underwhelm me with your sharp wit !!!
I love it when you have no rebuttal and attack some source I've never heard of when I saw it on CNN. At least you had two posts in a row without playing the fetus/abortion card.
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If you saw no rebuttal, You are just a little bit daft, but I am going to bed, so you have plenty of time to build credibility in your story. I respect you enough to give you 7 or 8 hours to research.
At least you are original, and I respect that. Not yes men like Veer, Wildcat, and Expect.
I don't blame him. I'm not sure how this is some sort of evidence guns don't save people. Did somebody in the classroom of those killed have a gun? Was the shooter killed with mace?
You guys are the ones that claim we will have a bunch of vigilantes on our hands. Seems to me this guy was practicing good decision making.
You guys are the ones that claim we will have a bunch of vigilantes on our hands. Seems to me this guy was practicing good decision making.
The lady in this story is the wife of a guy I know. Do you think she is grateful for her right to carry? Or would you antis rather she be raped and murdered all in the name of no guns?
The funny thing is, the didn't put in the story she pulled her gun. Not shocked, reporting these days are terrible.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news...cle_d6697ff4-786a-5e8d-b31b-f961f6604e65.html
BINGO!
If he charged over to the scene and killed the bad guy, they would all be saying he was a fool and put everyone in jeopardy with his actions.
He used sound judgement to let the other "good guys with guns" handle it. If they hadn't been there, he likely would have taken a different stance to prevent more killing. It would have been helpful if he was in the class with the killer though.
I just listened to the interview with the young man. He is exactly the kind of people we need armed on campus. We just need a lot more of them. He said they were at least 200 yards away from were the shootings were taking place and were told to lock down and stay where they were and that's what they did.
Put s half dozen young men like them armed in every classroom and not just one guy on a campus this crap would stop.
Half dozen people? You going to pay them a salary? You going to pay for their training in every single class in America?
That's realistic.
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Money is no object to the Republican Party as long as it's spent on military contractors.
Never said anything about having paid armed security guards. Half dozen students in each class as level headed as that one young man will work fine
Really, I mean really so much crazy talk. I have no idea what the answer to this problem is, but I do know that it's not adding more guns to the situation. Good Lord how many people have to be killed by guns before we realize that good guys with guns are not the answer.
Its never going to change. Nothing changed after elementary school kids were gunned down. If that doesn't spark change, nothing will.
Hillary is spewing crap about expanding background checks..this guy passed multiple background checks and from what I have heard bought every gun legally.
More laws will do nothing more than screw with law abiding people. Someone who is completely insane and is wanting to murder dozens of people will not even be slowed down by any law.
We protect politicians, court houses, celebrities, sporting events (cops everywhere at Friday night football games). It ceases to amaze me that people are so against doing something that could actually stop this senseless killing and put measures in place to secure our schools.
YOU are the reason we can't protect people. You are one stupid son of a .......
I may be stupid but I am smart enough to know that passing one more law isn't going to do anything to protect peoples lives. Its impossible to stop people from getting a gun in our country. What law that any politician is promoting would have stopped this guy from getting his hands on a gun??
You don't like our current gun laws then do something about it and get the Second Amendment changed. See how that goes for you.
You don't like our current gun laws then do something about it and get the Second Amendment changed. See how that goes for you.
National gun registry
If you buy multiple guns in a short period of time bells go off.
We do it with fertilizer and cold pills.
You are fine with the government making you wear your seat belt but it's not OK to make you register a weapon with a magazine that allows you to shoot up a theatre.
If you buy multiple guns in a short period of time bells go off.
We do it with fertilizer and cold pills.
You are fine with the government making you wear your seat belt but it's not OK to make you register a weapon with a magazine that allows you to shoot up a theatre.
This doesn't square with your argument above about arming teachers instead of having paid security. We don't arm offensive linemen and fans and tell them to be on the lookout
There are plenty of laws that would reduce gun violence over time. I await your support for said laws based upon this post.
I never said anything about teachers. Most teachers I have met probably shouldn't own a dull knife much less a firearm
and what laws would that be??,,,,,,,,I will let you know if I support them
I am NOT fine with the govt telling me I have to wear a seat belt. None of their business.
I think you can shoot up a theatre with about any magazine capacity and do just fine. The guy in Oregon had multiple hand guns with him. You empty it and toss it. Colt 1911 holds 7+1,,,have four in your belt that's 32 shots with no reloads. what difference does it make if its a AK with a 30 round mag or 4 colts with 8 rounds dead is dead.
You have to stop the insane person , not hope some law 20 years down the road might stop one incident.
besides hand grenades are easier to get and cause a lot more damage.
How does knowing someone owns 20 guns stop them from going out and using them in a mass murder? Please explain that.
Its not against any law to buy a lot of guns, and a lot of people do. How is knowing someone bought 5-6 guns a year for the last 3 years going to stop him from going out and murdering someone with them?? Explain that to me.
the core gun violence problem in the US is easy access to handguns. You have to address that.
I think the killer must not have known what he was doing was against the law. How else could he have done this?
How would background checks every time a person buys a gun "screw with law abiding citizens?"
What kind of an A hole would not put up with a little inconvenience when making a legit gun purchase in exchange for preventing gun deaths elsewhere?
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