The most expensive healthcare option proposed
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That's what gets me, Duck. Reps screamed and threw a hissy fit about Obamacare but I haven't seen them do one darn thing to try to fix the biggest scam ever on the American public. $10-12K premiums a year per person out of the average middle class American's pocket is huge. Imagine if that family income was spent and spread out among other industries.
How about we make selling insurance illegal, stop Medicare and Medicaid, and force healthcare providers to charge prices that people can afford to pay???
All of you liberals rail about big pharmaceuticals , big insurance, executive pay and all. Government and insurance companies paying the bill just keeps driving up costs
Medicare pays far less to those companies than private health insurance. Nice try though.
We have the least efficient health care system in the world
But rich guys keep getting richer
My wife and I pay right at $14,000 to private insurance annually. We have a $4,000 family deductible. She has a cochlear implant. Her speech processor went out a few years back. Only one company makes those in the world. Our insurance company said, sorry they aren’t a network provider. How convenient for the ins company. The damn thing cost $9,500.
Then last year I had numerous knee ailments. My doc told the same Ins company I needed an MRI. Insurance company said sorry you have to rehab that knee first. Rehab before you know exactly what is wrong?????
Went to rehab, injured the knee worse. It swelled up twice as big and was killing me. Why? Because the ins company CEO had to make $27 million last year for withholding care.
But hey, letting me buy into Medicare would be worse????????
Then last year I had numerous knee ailments. My doc told the same Ins company I needed an MRI. Insurance company said sorry you have to rehab that knee first. Rehab before you know exactly what is wrong?????
Went to rehab, injured the knee worse. It swelled up twice as big and was killing me. Why? Because the ins company CEO had to make $27 million last year for withholding care.
But hey, letting me buy into Medicare would be worse????????
That's the issues They Robber Barron the Insurance co. to pay for those who shouldn't receive Top notch Health care.
Let those who can't afford Healthcare not Receive it. It's not a Right it's a commodity and benefit. Pay for it or do without. Two tier of Hospitals...Insurance Top notch and Gov. bottom of the barrel care.
They are your medical bills, why should anyone but YOU pay them??
If you don’t like the Insurance company then don’t do business with them, nobody is making you
Dumb response. If you spend a fortune on insurance, that should cover your healthcare.
If I pay for car insurance for 10 years, I expect the insurance company to fix my car when I wreck. Using your logic I should get out my tools and fix it myself.
No. Using his logic you would pay the mechanic instead of running it through insurance.
In a government run, single payer based health care system the insurance company is the American taxpayer with more than a little bureaucracy courtesy of the federal government.
I thin many of us have some problems with the insurance companies but the point is if I get sick (or if I want a check-up) I don’t go knock on my neighbors door and ask them to help pay for it. In a government run single payer system the government is basically doing just that abeit far less efficiently.
it works in every industrialized nation besides ours.
Why should we be paying more for less?
Greeeeed
I don’t want my neighbor to pay for it. I want my premiums to be spent on care, not on millions to the CEO. There is 5 times more overhead with private insurance than with Medicare. If my doctor says I need an MRI, I don’t need rehab. I need a }#%€<¥? MRI.
Then you are not for single payer government run healthcare.
how do you think insurance works now?
Your kid gets cancer, your neighbor helps pay.
But today, your CEO adds in 12-18% in overhead for you and your neighbor.
Greed is taking from another is it not?
I’m not defending insurance company CEO’s but if you think state run healthcare is going to be more affordable for all then you need to get yourself checked out for CTE...like now. Just don’t ask someone else to pay for it...
if that neighbor is willingly enrolled in the same insurance plan with the same company as you, yes? But at least they have that choice.
I need to move to wherever you live where all these choices for health insurance are fighting for your dollar. That doesn’t exist in my market.
...and here we find some common ground. I’m for MORE choices, not less. Rates/service better from a company in Idaho then go for it. State run single payer is...what is that word...ah yes...a Monopoly.
No it is not and competition is what should regulate profit. This isn’t China...yet.
Not in every industry chief. But utilities, electric, water, etc it works great.
Well that is not a Apples to Apples deal...plenty of Car insurance companies to pick from so competition, also competition in auto shops,and auto part providers, Certified Auto parts, after market parts etc......The Gov. has basically took out competition from health insurance both Leftist and Conservatives did this, no real competition from Hospitals/Doctors for your business(out of Network issues),Drug companies controlling prices of Drugs that cost pennies, and then as I stated the Insurance co. are also being forced to pick up the short comings of the Self pay clients and what Medicaid and Medicare doesn't fully pay to cover expenses.
So it's not the same, but it could be close if the system was overhauled.
I think everyone is upset that Insurance co. deny coverage, and then rake in massive profits. Some of that would go away if the System didn't Rob from them to cover those who don't pay or work and grift off others. And a lot of that would go away if they opened up competition.
A gov. run system in a country of 400 million would be a massive disaster because the Gov. is so inefficient and bogged down with Red tape. .
Yeah but that is done a the Local level....again not a apples to apples deal...The Fed's can't even run a public rail system..Do you want them controlling your healthcare from DC? I mean other nations don't have the population that we have. And in those countries they receive basic healthcare at a very affordable price and that works pretty well. But once you need specialized care or procedure's things are slower and often longer wait's as well for those to get done. Always pro's and con's to any system.
"Works".
I've been to Canada and I've lived in Europe. If by "works" you mean waiting forever for basic procedures, then yeah it "works".
