The mentality
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Colorado Springs LGBTQ club shooting suspect identifying as non-binary in court documents
The suspect in the shooting at Club Q is now identifying as non-binary, according to court filings filed Tuesday.
www.cbsnews.com
Wonder how dad feels about that Being a Ex-Con, turned Porn star, and MMA Fighter for the Mormons yeah you can't make this stuff up? Sounds like Both of them are Crazy.... why the govt hadn't done anything is beyond the Pale of reason. He had threatened a Bombing and a whole neighborhood had been practically emptied. Yep those Red Flag Laws and Gun Laws keep the Crazy people from doing crazy things.... well not so much.
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Oh and toots no posting about the Wal-Mart Manager that killed some of his fellow Employee's... Doesn't fit the Narrative of White Conservative Republicans killing???
Man even when you read most of the articles about it no pictures of they guy... a lot of his victim but none of him.
www.bloomberg.com
www.reuters.com
www.axios.com
Finally found one... Newsweek came through...
www.newsweek.com
Man even when you read most of the articles about it no pictures of they guy... a lot of his victim but none of him.
Police: 6 People And Assailant Dead in Walmart Shooting
Chesapeake, Va. (AP) -- A Walmart manager pulled out a handgun before a routine employee meeting and began firing wildly around the break room of a Virginia store, killing six people in the nation’s second high-profile mass shooting in four days, police and witnesses said Wednesday.
www.bloomberg.com
Walmart supervisor opens fire on Virginia co-workers, killing 6 and himself
A Walmart supervisor armed with a handgun and several magazines of ammunition opened fire on fellow employees in a Virginia store, killing six people before turning the gun on himself in a break room, witnesses and police said on Wednesday.
www.reuters.com
Suspect identified in Walmart shooting that killed 6 in Virginia
The suspected shooter was a Walmart employee since 2010, the company said.
www.axios.com
Finally found one... Newsweek came through...
Virginia Walmart Shooting Updates: At least 50 in store at time of shooting
Seven people, including the shooter, are dead after a mass shooting at a Walmart store in Chesapeake, Virginia.
www.newsweek.com
The sheriff refused to enforce the red flag laws that were passed. Nice try though.Colorado Springs LGBTQ club shooting suspect identifying as non-binary in court documents
The suspect in the shooting at Club Q is now identifying as non-binary, according to court filings filed Tuesday.
Wonder how dad feels about that Being a Ex-Con, turned Porn star, and MMA Fighter for the Mormons yeah you can't make this stuff up? Sounds like Both of them are Crazy.... why the govt hadn't done anything is beyond the Pale of reason. He had threatened a Bombing and a whole neighborhood had been practically emptied. Yep those Red Flag Laws and Gun Laws keep the Crazy people from doing crazy things.... well not so much.
He said it wasn’t his responsibility.
The Walmart shooting proves exactly what I have been saying for 20+ years. We have so many guns readily available that people immediately grab one when they have a score to settle or they have a moment of anger or depression. You are the one who tries to make it about ideology. It’s simply about having more guns than people in this country. It’s absurd.
My original post wasn’t about ideology, it was about this clown’s attitude toward shooting. “The mentality”. It is insane. Every new mass killing revokes a bigger and bigger response from you. Signs of your feeling more and more guilty.
My original post wasn’t about ideology, it was about this clown’s attitude toward shooting. “The mentality”. It is insane. Every new mass killing revokes a bigger and bigger response from you. Signs of your feeling more and more guilty.
So as I said a Govt failure!!! If he wouldn't enforce... why did the State Police or Local Prosecutor not follow up?
Either way Laws and the Govt are pretty much worthless in controlling peoples behavior in a Free Republic. Even if the Sheriff would of taken away his gun it wouldn't of stopped him. Information coming out now he used Ghost guns with no serial numbers..... they can easily be obtained by the Criminal element and Nutters if they so desire to do harm or commit crimes.
Simple supply and demand..... If a person is willing to pay drugs, guns etc. can easily be obtained and no Law or L.E. is going to stop it.
ATF agent John Risenhoover said 99% of guns today are never used in a Crime or have any issues..... for the 1% that are the rest of us are suppose to have are Legal Rights infringed upon so some weak willed people feel emotionally better. It's always nice to know that our fellow citizens are oppressive fascist at heart.
How do you fixate on the Gun as opposed to the Person wielding it.... Less than 1% of the Millions and Millions of guns are involved in any Illegal activity per the ATF. This is not a gun issue it's a Person issue.
Crazy people and Criminals who are highly motivated will Always obtain Guns, Drugs or other illegal items. You are 100% in error if you think laws can be enforced or deter personality disordered citizens. In fact their personalities often thrive on the Challenge and the Process to do harm and illegal things. The harder it is the more they are invested in carrying out their plans to achieve what ever sick thing they desire.
Prohibition/War on Drugs are exhibit A&B of the failure of Govt laws to effect illegal activity. The Colorado incident is Exhibit C of Red Flag laws etc. not stopping a Perp.
Trying to be more draconian with gun laws and Rights infringement of Law Abiding Citizens is not going to Stop Gun Violence....that is such a simple minded approach that has decades of failures to back it up.
I don't feel a bit guilty..... I fear that the Propaganda and Disinformation leading to Fear will make the GOP knuckle under and ignore the 2A rights of the Conservatives and that this will lead to Open upheaval across various states.
Also I agreed the Guy was nutty and Crazy and you where trying to Frame him as a Average Rep. Conservative..... that was your intent because that was the intent of the Twitter post. I was just pointing out that Nutters thrive on both sides of the Political spectrum. I seriously doubt the Virg. Shooter was a GOPer....
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The laws are in place. Simply follow them and stop turning everything into a political battle. You claims it’s the person, not the gun, then you won’t follow a law governing the person. Because freedom???
I 100% want someone like the Colorado Nutter to be locked away..... he clearly was mentally ill. You don't threaten your Grandparents and hold a block hostage and not need to be locked away. From the video I'm not sure the Dad doesn't need more incarceration.
But Blanket Gun Laws don't do a darn thing if you let mentally ill people roam free. And believe me a huge portion of the Mental Health System is to blame they tend to recoil at the idea of taking away the Freedom of dangerous people..... but have Zero issue with taking away Constitutional rights of normal people. I am ashamed of that!
I get so sick of hearing we are Advocates for the mentally ill and we must protect them from undo prosecution. Then they go out and victimize the innocent!! Even within the industry those in power often expect employee's to accept assault and battery situations with broken bones etc. and pressure people to do nothing, not file charges or push prosecution. It's slimy.
Most of the mentally diseased are known and have warning signs.... they easily could be put away. But nope just pass more gun laws and let them roam the streets. Same goes for Criminals..... I bet there isn't 1 out of a Million conservatives that don't want Criminals and the Mentally unstable to be incarcerated to protect the citizens. It's the other side that wants to let Criminals off easy and the Mentally ill to live among the innocent folk.
But Blanket Gun Laws don't do a darn thing if you let mentally ill people roam free. And believe me a huge portion of the Mental Health System is to blame they tend to recoil at the idea of taking away the Freedom of dangerous people..... but have Zero issue with taking away Constitutional rights of normal people. I am ashamed of that!
I get so sick of hearing we are Advocates for the mentally ill and we must protect them from undo prosecution. Then they go out and victimize the innocent!! Even within the industry those in power often expect employee's to accept assault and battery situations with broken bones etc. and pressure people to do nothing, not file charges or push prosecution. It's slimy.
Most of the mentally diseased are known and have warning signs.... they easily could be put away. But nope just pass more gun laws and let them roam the streets. Same goes for Criminals..... I bet there isn't 1 out of a Million conservatives that don't want Criminals and the Mentally unstable to be incarcerated to protect the citizens. It's the other side that wants to let Criminals off easy and the Mentally ill to live among the innocent folk.
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Agree, and the same strict enforcement for possession of an unregistered, illegal, or stolen gun. Not saying 10 yrs, but a stiff fine for first offense and lose the right to own or possess a firearm for 1-5 yrs. Second offense it's jail time.
But to make it work the sheriff needs to go in and take the gun away from the mentally unstable and the convicted. The kid in Colorado Springs made a bomb threat. His gun should have been taken away. DO YOUR JOB. Protect and serve.
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That sheriff had a long history of not enforcing gun laws. I would imagine that he is not the only one...
That's not true....pro gun groups support common sense gun laws that prevent criminals and the mentally unstable from getting guns. Crime Control is the way to stop gun crime...Enforce current laws to the fullest extent and sentence heavily to keep people prone to violence off the Streets or who are mentally ill. Who seems to be against this approach? Oh the gun control Lobby. They want blanket back Ground Checks that don't work and to pass Red Flag Laws that don't work either and can be used in unconstitutional ways against the average law abiding citizen.
I agree..... and he should of been locked up he came walking out after the bomb threat. His firearms should of been seized and he should never of seen the light of day again. Failure on the Justice system for letting him roam free and on the Sheriff for not taking his guns.
Most gun owners are 100% against gun registration. You shouldn't have to register a knife, Club, Gun, Chain Saw, Hammer, AX etc. Why does the govt. need to know what type of gun I own or have purchased? When 99% of guns are never used in a Crime the only reason that the Govt wants to register guns is so they can confiscate them if they so desire. Federal Registration is very unconstitutional...
Judge rules federal law banning guns with serial numbers removed is unconstitutional
A federal judge blocked a federal law on Wednesday that prohibits the possession of a firearm with an “altered, obliterated or removed” serial number in light of the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling…
thehill.com
Oh I get why LE wants gun registration and Serial numbers.... It makes their job easier to solve crimes in the few cases where guns are used and they are not gotten illegally. But it doesn't do anything to prevent crime.
Gun Registration is a slippery slope as History Shows that Totalitarian states arise with the registration licensing and then banning of guns which leads to Confiscation of guns leaving only the govt centralized police force Armed.
This happened in Italy, Germany, Russian, China and all the satellite states they control. Why would any American Politician be for Licensing/Registration of fire arms over 11/15K violent acts in a year? When they know that on the low end that Firearms are used 60/70k times in prevention of crimes and on the high end it rise to Millions of times per a CDC study?
Why should law abiding Citizens have Photo ID's taken, have to carry passport like cards, have to license and pay fee's annually to keep guns in their home as protection a Second Amendment right afforded by the Very foundation of our Society and GOVT.... All legislation proposed by the Lefty party I may add. They cannot by any means be trusted in this regard.
Registration does nothing to prevent criminal acts. But it does put a undo burden on the Average Person to exercise their 2A rights.... Ask the Cubans how things worked out for them after 1959!!!
If people would heed the words of the Federal Farmer 1788...." To preserve Liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always posses arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
The world would be a better saver and more Free place.
You do know that near half of gun transaction are through the private sector. And as was stated 43 states don't have unconstitutional gun registration laws.. And I bet that the SC and Other Federal Courts start walking back the laws that effect the rights of citizens and don't effect criminals in those 7 states that those registration laws will have to be amended or dropped. If a Clinton appointed judge is ruling in favor of allowing guns with no serial number to be legal... then forcing people to register guns with the State isn't going to fly.
Going after Stolen guns or people who lie and Falsify data to obtain a gun is justified. Forcing Registration, Fee's and Restrictions on Law abiding citizens is not going to pass muster.
