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The Cubs are 20-6

Duck_walk

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But Mo didn't need to replace Heyward with a stick. We have old man Holliday as our #3 hitter. The pitcher he overpaid has been awful. We may never see VB again. Bummer.
 
But Mo didn't need to replace Heyward with a stick. We have old man Holliday as our #3 hitter. The pitcher he overpaid has been awful. We may never see VB again. Bummer.
This just in. They rake. Like really good. And they pitch. Like really good. And don't have two starters with ERA's north of 6.00. Other than that, they don't seem all that good.
 
This just in. They rake. Like really good. And they pitch. Like really good. And don't have two starters with ERA's north of 6.00. Other than that, they don't seem all that good.
You forgot that they play defense. Like really good. And run the bases. Like extremely well:D
 
You forgot that they play defense. Like really good. And run the bases. Like extremely well:D
Yeah, those too. Oof...Hey...Any chance Bryant gets moved to LF if Soler doesn't hit? Noticed Baez is hitting well. Thought he might get some time at 3B. I still think he's going to be a good MLB hitter.
 
Yeah, those too. Oof...Hey...Any chance Bryant gets moved to LF if Soler doesn't hit? Noticed Baez is hitting well. Thought he might get some time at 3B. I still think he's going to be a good MLB hitter.
Soler blows my mind.....

He's been given a golden opportunity and he has literally shat all over himself. I think Baez might have just taken his place on this team. Soler actually has 1 option left, so don't be shocked to see him moved to Iowa soon. In that situation, Bryant would turn into a "utility" guy more so than he already is. Split between RF/LF and 3rd....occasionally at 1st as needed.

I also wouldn't be shocked to see Almora up after the All Star game. He's finally looking like everything is clicking for him.
 
The Cubs may win 100 games by the 4th of July Ducky !!! LMAO... :D

The way the Cubs have played in the games I have seen I can't believe they have even lost six games.They dominated the Pirates. Cards could be 20 games back by the end of June.
 
The Birds did beat the Phillies 3 out of 4 and they have a winning record, but until they win a series from the Pirates or Cubs I have little to say.
 
The Birds did beat the Phillies 3 out of 4 and they have a winning record, but until they win a series from the Pirates or Cubs I have little to say.
Cards have a very good run differential. We are playing fine. We're not the Cubs but we should focus on the fact that they are scoring more than their opponents.
 
If playing fine gets you to 15 - 15 which would play out to be 81-81 and you out score your opponents because you thrive against average pitching and disappear against the the studs then I guess our ideas of playing fine are no where close to each other.
 
If playing fine gets you to 15 - 15 which would play out to be 81-81 and you out score your opponents because you thrive against average pitching and disappear against the the studs then I guess our ideas of playing fine are no where close to each other.
Cards have been unlucky in terms of wins and losses in the short run. If you are out scoring opponents by a run a game on average, your team is playoff caliber.
 
They could play better but that are doing enough to make the playoffs. That is all I think I can reasonably expect from this team.
 
They would not be in the playoffs if they started tomorrow.

Some people don't understand that statistics sometimes lie. The Birds feast on bad pitching. I've played on teams that would just beat the snot out of a weak opponent but couldn't compete with top teams at all. The stats are padded vs crap.
 
Top 9 teams by run differential in 2015:

Toronto
St. Louis
Houston
Pittsburgh
Chicago Cubs
KC
Dodgers
Mets
Yankees

Guess what those teams had in common? They all made the playoffs. The other team was 13th; they won their division (Texas).

Good teams score more runs than their opponents. Runs scored vs. runs allowed is a better predictor of a team's record over the rest of the season than their actual W/L record to date
 
They would not be in the playoffs if they started tomorrow.
This is results oriented thinking. They don't play 32 game seasons, and sometimes teams that are playoff caliber will miss the playoffs due to bad luck.

All you can do is put a good team on the field and keep them on the field as much as possible. It will go your way in the long run. Good ballclubs like the Cardinals understand this.
 
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Ok as always you are right and I am wrong. One question. As the year progresses will the Birds ability to make the playoffs be measured by wins and losses or run differential? Don't throw out a bunch of stats, just answer the question.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Ok as always you are right and I am wrong. One question. As the year progresses will the Birds ability to make the playoffs be measured by wins and losses or run differential? Don't throw out a bunch of stats, just answer the question.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Of course it is wins and losses, but when you've played 20% of the games, your final win/loss record will be 20% based upon your current win/loss record + 80% based on your future wins and losses. Your experience over that time frame is going to be driven by your team's true level of talent.

You and I both recognize that the remaining 80% is a heck of a lot more meaningful than the first 20% is. Run differential tells you more about what that 80% will be than your current W/L record does.

Beyond all of this, in the grand scheme of things, one month is a small sample size for any sports team.
 
Of course it is wins and losses, but when you've played 20% of the games, your final win/loss record will be 20% based upon your current win/loss record + 80% based on your future wins and losses. Your experience over that time frame is going to be driven by your team's true level of talent.

You and I both recognize that the remaining 80% is a heck of a lot more meaningful than the first 20% is. Run differential tells you more about what that 80% will be than your current W/L record does.

Beyond all of this, in the grand scheme of things, one month is a small sample size for any sports team.
I asked that you just answer the question and you couldn't do it. lol just love this site have a great day neuty and go Blues no darn Birds to ruin my night tonight:):):)
 
I asked that you just answer the question and you couldn't do it. lol just love this site have a great day neuty and go Blues no darn Birds to ruin my night tonight:):):)

He can't just answer a question. He has to think he won the thread and waste your time telling you something you either already know or don't care about. Your opinion doesn't matter only some numbers from a website.

The Cards had a good run differential last year but you and I both knew they couldn't win in the playoffs with that team even though they won 100 games and we said it.
Mo didn't make the moves to win at the deadline. Stats be damned. We saw their weaknesses without having to read a single number.
 
A terrible night as the Blues come out flat and gave the Stars goalie all the Mo going into game 7 Wed. night:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: This is probably the reason the Birds aren't winning because the Blues are sucking up all the winning energy from the St. Louis fans. No stats needed the Birds will fly once the Blues are eliminated and hopefully that won't happen for 2 more series:eek::rolleyes:o_O
 
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He can't just answer a question. He has to think he won the thread and waste your time telling you something you either already know or don't care about. Your opinion doesn't matter only some numbers from a website.

The Cards had a good run differential last year but you and I both knew they couldn't win in the playoffs with that team even though they won 100 games and we said it.
Mo didn't make the moves to win at the deadline. Stats be damned. We saw their weaknesses without having to read a single number.
Playoffs are a crapshoot
 
Life is a crap shoot:cool::confused:

When someone makes an observation based on experience and what you actually see on the field, it's a crap shoot???? When statistics do lie, it's an anomaly. The baseball gods had to be wrong.

I wonder if the cubs winning 24 of the first 30 games means anything??????? Duhhhhhhhhh. When they signed the three veterans this winter the division race was over. But wait, the Cards have a freakin run differential..............
 
Didn't seem to stop them from making the playoffs in 2015 nor will it in 2016
Your kidding right!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Guess when you say historically you mean only 1 to 2 years lol You are never wrong are you? I guess then we can say historically speaking the Cubs have been the best team in the NL Central:eek:o_O
 
I just meant that their 2016 run differential is off the charts, not that they were good over a number of years.
 
We replaced Heyward with a better player that we already had. The Cubs are paying Heyward a fortune to hit .217 with no Home Runs. It is clear at this point in the season that the Cubs are the best team in baseball. Unles something crazy happens, they are going to win the Central Division. Historically speaking, the Wild Card teams do pretty well in October. I think the Cardinals will be there in October and I'm not ready to give the Cubs a World Series ring yet. Lots of baseball to be played.

Really. We didn't know any of that.
 
I'm not sure why you think you are the all knowing and arrogant MoSports Knowledge God. From what I know of you, you done nothing in your life to warrant that...

If you sign a Cespedes or Davis or even Heyward you wouldn't have to give anyone up and you would still have a nice stable of young guys to trade in case you get an injury to a front line pitcher or if you want to land a #3 hitter to replace Holliday some time soon.

That's my point. If you don't agree that's fine. But the Cardinals offered Heyward a large contract so they must have wanted to keep him.
 
But the Cardinals offered Heyward a large contract so they must have wanted to keep him.
I'm very thankful Heyward didn't take the offer. He can't pitch, nor can he field ground balls on the infield. He fit the Cubs needs far more than he did the Birds.
 
I'm very thankful Heyward didn't take the offer. He can't pitch, nor can he field ground balls on the infield. He fit the Cubs needs far more than he did the Birds.

I wouldn't have paid him what the Cardinals offered either. His swing is not a pretty thing. But I do wish we had landed a #3 hitter or a lead off man with Carp moving to #3.
 
I wouldn't have paid him what the Cardinals offered either. His swing is not a pretty thing. But I do wish we had landed a #3 hitter or a lead off man with Carp moving to #3.
We did land him. A few years ago. Look a bit down the lineup. He's been hitting 9-hole the past few games. However, when you do Matheneging, it's not broke so you don't fix it.
 
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