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Ten Most Dominating Teams since 2003

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This is an elite group of teams. To qualify, teams had to be (1) undefeated and (2) win the state title game by 20 points or more. Then a calculation is done with average point differential per game, with bonus points for shut outs and 30 point + wins. Deductions for < 10 point wins. So here are the results:

1). 2003 Kearney 98.14 Domination Score. 14-0, all wins > 30 points. 5 shut outs. (Best wins: Ladue 43-0, Webb 43-0, Grandview 42-7.) Total domination.

2) 2003 Centralia. 95.43. 14-0 with 13 wins over 30 points. Six shut outs. (Best wins: Blair Oaks 38-7, 35-0, Lawson 42-0)

3). 2015 Valle Catholic. 88.2. 15-0 with 11 wins +30. Four shut outs. (Close games with Marceline 16-13, and Thayer 17-10.)

4) 2015 Lamar. 86.27. 15-0 with 12 30+ wins, five shut outs. (Best wins: Carl Junction 56-34. Close game: Liberty 14-7)

5) 2005 Cameron 84.21. 13 30+ wins, two shut outs. Average point differential 42.

6) 2014 Valle Catholic 82.27

7) 2013 Valle Catholic 80.87

8) 2012 Webb City. 75.73. 15-0 with 11 30+ wins, three shutouts.

9) 2014 Webb City. 74.2 15-0 with 10 30+ wins, four shut outs. (Rockhurst 40-14 (#2 Class 6), Kearney 38-7 (#2 in Class 4.)

10.) 2010 Penney 67.5
 
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JNreturns said:
This is an elite group of teams. To qualify, teams had to be (1) undefeated and (2) win the state title game by 20 points or more. Then a calculation is done with average point differential per game, with bonus points for shut outs and 30 point + wins. Deductions for < 10 point wins. So here are the results:

1). 2003 Kearney 98.14 Domination Score. 14-0, all wins > 30 points. 5 shut outs. (Best wins: Ladue 43-0, Webb 43-0, Grandview 42-7.) Total domination.

2) 2003 Centralia. 95.43. 14-0 with 13 wins over 30 points. Six shut outs. (Best wins: Blair Oaks 38-7, 35-0, Lawson 42-0)

3). 2015 Valle Catholic. 88.2. 15-0 with 11 wins +30. Four shut outs. (Close games with Marceline 16-13, and Thayer 17-10.)

4) 2015 Lamar. 86.27. 15-0 with 12 30+ wins, five shut outs. (Best wins: Carl Junction 56-34. Close game: Liberty 14-7)

5) 2005 Cameron 84.21. 13 30+ wins, two shut outs. Average point differential 42.

6) 2014 Valle Catholic 82.27

7) 2013 Valle Catholic 80.87

8) 2012 Webb City. 75.73. 15-0 with 11 30+ wins, three shutouts.

9) 2014 Webb City. 74.2 15-0 with 10 30+ wins, four shut outs. (Rockhurst 40-14 (#2 Class 6), Kearney 38-7 (#2 in Class 4.)

10.) 2010 Penney 67.5
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Awesome
 
Peter Quill said:
Like the list but don't believe the order is correct. What's that noise I hear? Oh its all the Webb City folks typing away.
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Totally objective. I punched in numbers and these are the teams that qualified... MOST DOMINANT...not best. The relative level of competition impacts this greatly. Example: Webb playing some 7A School from Arkansas, and winning by less than 10 points, would be hurt in the calculation to some extent. Also: Blue Springs: playing knock out drag out games against several other stellar teams, and having a number of <10 point wins, hurt them.
 
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I like the formula expect the shutout factor. Some teams sub more freely than others and give up late scores . Also some teams sub out their starters when getting beaten badly and others don't . You would almost have to look at the scores when the teams were actually scored on and the qtr etc . It would be a real pain in the butt to do that though
 
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I like the formula expect the shutout factor. Some teams sub more freely than others and give up late scores . Also some teams sub out their starters when getting beaten badly and others don't . You would almost have to look at the scores when the teams were actually scored on and the qtr etc . It would be a real pain in the butt to do that though
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And Kearney 2003 did not sub. Remember, it had:

1) Brock Christopher: Played more than 11 games in all 4 seasons at Missouri, starting LB 3 years.
2) Tommy Saunders: Four years at Missouri. 1,600+ yards receiving.

AND these two were not the best players on the Kearney team:

James Short was their starting tailback...better and faster than Saunders at the time. Offensive Lineman Steven Murray (probably the best football player on the team. Not academic enough for college)
AND their QB, Benny Palmer (2 year starter at William Jewell College)

Ask the Webb players that played them. They knew they were getting trucked as soon as they saw the film on them.
 
hitch_and_go said:
I like the formula expect the shutout factor. Some teams sub more freely than others and give up late scores . Also some teams sub out their starters when getting beaten badly and others don't . You would almost have to look at the scores when the teams were actually scored on and the qtr etc . It would be a real pain in the butt to do that though
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The shutout factor wasn't strong in the calculation, but yeah, now looking back, I would probably leave it out.
 
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As you also eluded to : level of competition is tough to factor in unless you compileted a w/l record of their opponents etc . It also makes it tough for class 6 schools to make the list ...they would almost have to be a national championship caliber team to score high on the list but I like that you put it together and it can't be argued that any of these teams weren't fantastic
 
hitch_and_go said:
As you also eluded to : level of competition is tough to factor in unless you compileted a w/l record of their opponents etc . It also makes it tough for class 6 schools to make the list ...they would almost have to be a national championship caliber team to score high on the list but I like that you put it together and it can't be argued that any of these teams weren't fantastic
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Yeah...If I remember right, one of the Blue Springs teams was like #16-#18 on this. Yeah...I could do a w/l of opponents but that would be extreme. I could use Calpreps data (their strength of schedule numbers.) Of course a lot of Webb teams were in the top 25. But like Kearney when they are good, they don't seem to be interested in smashing teams into dust after the turbo is running the early 3rd quarter.
 
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The most dominating high school team i've ever seen was a Valle team in the 90s. Don't remember the year but they won the title at Mo Southern and had beat the class 3 champ earlier in the year by around 40.
 
In Webb's podcast this week they spent a min or two talking about how good Cale Garrett was for Kearney a few years back
 
JNreturns said:
This is an elite group of teams. To qualify, teams had to be (1) undefeated and (2) win the state title game by 20 points or more. Then a calculation is done with average point differential per game, with bonus points for shut outs and 30 point + wins. Deductions for < 10 point wins. So here are the results:

1). 2003 Kearney 98.14 Domination Score. 14-0, all wins > 30 points. 5 shut outs. (Best wins: Ladue 43-0, Webb 43-0, Grandview 42-7.) Total domination.

2) 2003 Centralia. 95.43. 14-0 with 13 wins over 30 points. Six shut outs. (Best wins: Blair Oaks 38-7, 35-0, Lawson 42-0)

3). 2015 Valle Catholic. 88.2. 15-0 with 11 wins +30. Four shut outs. (Close games with Marceline 16-13, and Thayer 17-10.)

4) 2015 Lamar. 86.27. 15-0 with 12 30+ wins, five shut outs. (Best wins: Carl Junction 56-34. Close game: Liberty 14-7)

5) 2005 Cameron 84.21. 13 30+ wins, two shut outs. Average point differential 42.

6) 2014 Valle Catholic 82.27

7) 2013 Valle Catholic 80.87

8) 2012 Webb City. 75.73. 15-0 with 11 30+ wins, three shutouts.

9) 2014 Webb City. 74.2 15-0 with 10 30+ wins, four shut outs. (Rockhurst 40-14 (#2 Class 6), Kearney 38-7 (#2 in Class 4.)

10.) 2010 Penney 67.5
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Not that it matters but I'm pretty sure Lawson scored on Centralia in 03 championship
 
That 03 Kearney team was fantastic. I was a senior at Webb that year and pretty well knew going into the game it wasn't winable...only time I had experienced that ....they we're highly junior heavy in 02 and they beat us but it was a winable game for us. Way too many turnovers but I can't say they were unforced ....they were more physical and hard hits caused many fumbles . Game was tied late and they forced a turnover and scored . We got the ball back and turned it over again ...then we had to blitz everyone to try to get the ball back and Palmer broke a tackle in the backfield and housed it to secure a 2 td win . Game was closer than that but the more physical team won . Following year Webb wasn't good . 3 returning starters and we squeeked by McCounty and Nevada . Lost to Memphis Ridgeway , Pittsburg, Columbia Hickman 30-3, and Kearney ....not trying to discount how good Kearney was that year but outside of the name on the front of the Jersey ...the Webb win wasn't a quality win to hang your hat on . It was the worst Webb team in the last 20 years . We we're happy and fortunate to make the semis that year
 
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I'll add ..beating us that year was a given for Kearney ....but they shut us out and Webb hasn't been shut out since and I couldn't tell you when the last time we were shut out before that ...I'd suspect 95ish? That team was great though but I think 01 Webb plays them tough or beats them . The only team that pushed us was Park Hill and they had an amazing backfield that year. I think we beat them 24-7 or something like that but they we're solid .

I'm a bit of a pack rat so I've saved all my scouting reports from high school ...(2001-2003) . The things I remember about 03 Kearney was
A) they returned almost everyone from their 02 championship team.
B) they must have hit the weights hard because the weights from the 02-03 reports had about every kid gaining at least 20 pounds .
C) The only team that had any success was Grandview and that was because they had Josh Freeman scrambling around . I think K still won 52-20 tho
D) Kearney has 33 players in 02 and 36 in 03. The success of that crazy junior class made their program and they blew up after that . Success breeds success and sometimes a crazy good class can change the Outlook of a program for decades ....I remember back in those years (when I was still playing) coach rod forbid us from MOSports ...but we all read it ....Webb guys called Kearney a "flash in the pan" and in some regards they were but sometimes that's all you need ...one spark to ignite a big ass fire . That can be said with any successful program. It all started with one flash in the pan and made an inferno
 
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I'll add ..beating us that year was a given for Kearney ....but they shut us out and Webb hasn't been shut out since and I couldn't tell you when the last time we were shut out before that ...I'd suspect 95ish? That team was great though but I think 01 Webb plays them tough or beats them . The only team that pushed us was Park Hill and they had an amazing backfield that year. I think we beat them 24-7 or something like that but they we're solid .

I'm a bit of a pack rat so I've saved all my scouting reports from high school ...(2001-2003) . The things I remember about 03 Kearney was
A) they returned almost everyone from their 02 championship team.
B) they must have hit the weights hard because the weights from the 02-03 reports had about every kid gaining at least 20 pounds .
C) The only team that had any success was Grandview and that was because they had Josh Freeman scrambling around . I think K still won 52-20 tho
D) Kearney has 33 players in 02 and 36 in 03. The success of that crazy junior class made their program and they blew up after that . Success breeds success and sometimes a crazy good class can change the Outlook of a program for decades ....I remember back in those years (when I was still playing) coach rod forbid us from MOSports ...but we all read it ....Webb guys called Kearney a "flash in the pan" and in some regards they were but sometimes that's all you need ...one spark to ignite a big ass fire . That can be said with any successful program. It all started with one flash in the pan and made an inferno
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I remember exhaling big time in the Dome when they closed the deal. Had they lost any of their amazing array of athletes things could've been different. I also remember thinking that may be the last time in my lifetime my alma mater would win a FB title and was good with it at the time because it was such a historically good team. Kearney actually was based much more on that exceptional class back in those years. When Jones arrived (alluded to this in another thread) hope returned just three years later. What happened the next 10 seasons was beyond belief as he and his staff built a true, lasting program. I am still a bit stung by the past two years to probably have a realistic perspective just hope we aren't seeing the beginning of a decline here................
 
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I remember exhaling big time in the Dome when they closed the deal. Had they lost any of their amazing array of athletes things could've been different. I also remember thinking that may be the last time in my lifetime my alma mater would win a FB title and was good with it at the time because it was such a historically good team. Kearney actually was based much more on that exceptional class back in those years. When Jones arrived (alluded to this in another thread) hope returned just three years later. What happened the next 10 seasons was beyond belief as he and his staff built a true, lasting program. I am still a bit stung by the past two years to probably have a realistic perspective just hope we aren't seeing the beginning of a decline here................
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Sometimes after you have unbelievable success, the fall can come quickly. See Excelsior Springs, with 5 undefeated seasons from 1964 to 1971. You fall into a period of living in the past--not realizing every year how bad you suck. Excelsior was a bottom dweller in the Suburban Small 6 for the next 18 years or so--with only a couple winning seasons (barely.) It took the architect of those five undefeated seasons, HOF Coach Vic Bonuchi, to return as a head coach, from 1989 to 1996, and win a couple state championships, in 1994 and 1996. Some coaches just know how to build programs, motivate, and win...and others, NOT SO MUCH.
 
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Sometimes after you have unbelievable success, the fall can come quickly. See Excelsior Springs, with 5 undefeated seasons from 1964 to 1971. You fall into a period of living in the past--not realizing every year how bad you suck. Excelsior was a bottom dweller in the Suburban Small 6 for the next 18 years or so--with only a couple winning seasons (barely.) It took the architect of those five undefeated seasons, HOF Coach Vic Bonuchi, to return as a head coach, from 1989 to 1996, and win a couple state championships, in 1994 and 1996. Some coaches just know how to build programs, motivate, and win...and others, NOT SO MUCH.
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In all fairness I definitely don't think Kearney is anywhere near what happened to Excelsior as the community supports this program like very few others and they are actually being reasonably successful in the regular season BUT shooting par in the playoffs won't cut it. 2019 will definitely be the "year of the challenge" for Dogs FB. If an early playoff exit happens a THIRD time look out.............
 
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That 03 Kearney team was fantastic. I was a senior at Webb that year and pretty well knew going into the game it wasn't winable...only time I had experienced that ....they we're highly junior heavy in 02 and they beat us but it was a winable game for us. Way too many turnovers but I can't say they were unforced ....they were more physical and hard hits caused many fumbles . Game was tied late and they forced a turnover and scored . We got the ball back and turned it over again ...then we had to blitz everyone to try to get the ball back and Palmer broke a tackle in the backfield and housed it to secure a 2 td win . Game was closer than that but the more physical team won . Following year Webb wasn't good . 3 returning starters and we squeeked by McCounty and Nevada . Lost to Memphis Ridgeway , Pittsburg, Columbia Hickman 30-3, and Kearney ....not trying to discount how good Kearney was that year but outside of the name on the front of the Jersey ...the Webb win wasn't a quality win to hang your hat on . It was the worst Webb team in the last 20 years . We we're happy and fortunate to make the semis that year
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Can't remember how much time Brayden was out. But Losing Drake played a huge impact especially on the Memphis game. Scotty Taylor was a great kid but Drake was an outstanding athlete. Problem with that team receivers couldn't catch a cold. Lotta other great athletes though. Stanley was a freakin beast at rb.
 
thetophat said:
In all fairness I definitely don't think Kearney is anywhere near what happened to Excelsior as the community supports this program like very few others and they are actually being reasonably successful in the regular season BUT shooting par in the playoffs won't cut it. 2019 will definitely be the "year of the challenge" for Dogs FB. If an early playoff exit happens a THIRD time look out.............
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Excelsior sort of focused more on wrestling. During the time football declined, they had several state championships and numerous Top 4 finishes at state in wresting. In the mid 80s, their team could take on anyone in the KC metro in a dual, and win.
 
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Excelsior sort of focused more on wrestling. During the time football declined, they had several state championships and numerous Top 4 finishes at state in wresting. In the mid 80s, their team could take on anyone in the KC metro in a dual, and win.
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Even back in high school (early 80s) remember when Excelsior came to the old KHS gym for wrestling meets.............by far the largest number and most boisterous fans I ever saw. Agree they were very, very formidable.
 
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Even back in high school (early 80s) remember when Excelsior came to the old KHS gym for wrestling meets.............by far the largest number and most boisterous fans I ever saw. Agree they were very, very formidable.
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They hosted a JV Tournament there in the early 80s. The finals were like a UFC fight, the place was jam packed, and they had the lights turned down, and spotlight introductions for the finals. It was loud. They had as many fans show up for wrestling (probably more) than for football. That's back when Kearney was still a little cracker town like Lawson. I think Excelsior Springs had football for 65 years before Kearney ever had a football team.
 
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They hosted a JV Tournament there in the early 80s. The finals were like a UFC fight, the place was jam packed, and they had the lights turned down, and spotlight introductions for the finals. It was loud. They had as many fans show up for wrestling (probably more) than for football. That's back when Kearney was still a little cracker town like Lawson. I think Excelsior Springs had football for 65 years before Kearney ever had a football team.
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We moved to Holt in 1976. Would see "farmer Joe" on Hwy 33 almost daily back then and everything was farmland/pastures. Funny to look way back and realize our biggest sports rival during my HS years was Lathrop!
 
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We moved to Holt in 1976. Would see "farmer Joe" on Hwy 33 almost daily back then and everything was farmland/pastures. Funny to look way back and realize our biggest sports rival during my HS years was Lathrop!
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Back in 1976, Excelsior Springs' football schedule included playing Park Hill, Maryville, Blue Springs, Liberty, and NKC.
 
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