Such a short memory for congress

[3Rfan]

With all the critics in Congress piling on Obama for not doing something in Syria I assume they have forgotten that the President asked them for permission to bomb inside Syria about a year ago. Guess what happened? They ran like scared little rabbits and there was never a vote on that request. Many say the deal that was brokered to get rid of Syria's stock pile of chemical weapons bailed out Obama when in fact it bailed out the Congress after they would not act on the bombing request. Now they're all right back at it wanting him to do more inside Syria to fight ISIS, which by the way would be helping Assad, but when they're asked what THEY would do they stammer around and say the President has no strategy so we don't have anything to vote on. They don't need anything to vote on when they're simply asked what THEY would do. They wouldn't even vote on his request to bomb inside Syria when he asked to to last year, why should we believe they really want to do it now?

I find it extremely funny when many of the same people that voted FOR our invasion of Iraq, grumble about Russia invading a sovereign nation now and demand the President do something about that too!

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
With all the critics in Congress piling on Obama for not doing something in Syria I assume they have forgotten that the President asked them for permission to bomb inside Syria about a year ago. Guess what happened? They ran like scared little rabbits and there was never a vote on that request. Many say the deal that was brokered to get rid of Syria's stock pile of chemical weapons bailed out Obama when in fact it bailed out the Congress after they would not act on the bombing request. Now they're all right back at it wanting him to do more inside Syria to fight ISIS, which by the way would be helping Assad, but when they're asked what THEY would do they stammer around and say the President has no strategy so we don't have anything to vote on. They don't need anything to vote on when they're simply asked what THEY would do. They wouldn't even vote on his request to bomb inside Syria when he asked to to last year, why should we believe they really want to do it now?

I find it extremely funny when many of the same people that voted FOR our invasion of Iraq, grumble about Russia invading a sovereign nation now and demand the President do something about that too!

The GOP counts on their droolers to lack the intellect to recall FACTS like this.

And it works like a charm.

Just look at this board.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
With all the critics in Congress piling on Obama for not doing something in Syria I assume they have forgotten that the President asked them for permission to bomb inside Syria about a year ago. Guess what happened? They ran like scared little rabbits and there was never a vote on that request. Many say the deal that was brokered to get rid of Syria's stock pile of chemical weapons bailed out Obama when in fact it bailed out the Congress after they would not act on the bombing request. Now they're all right back at it wanting him to do more inside Syria to fight ISIS, which by the way would be helping Assad, but when they're asked what THEY would do they stammer around and say the President has no strategy so we don't have anything to vote on. They don't need anything to vote on when they're simply asked what THEY would do. They wouldn't even vote on his request to bomb inside Syria when he asked to to last year, why should we believe they really want to do it now?

I remember the reason for opposing bombing Syria being we were going to bomb Assad and help the rebels. The refrain was that the rebels could be worse than Assad. ISIS appears to be just that. Maybe the GOP was right. If we bomb in Syria now it would be the rebels and helping Assad.
To act like the GOP is two faced on this would be wrong.

 

[Scout 4u]

3r,
Here we go again...

Can we not agree that Republicans don't trust Democrats...
Democrats don't trust Republicans...
And True Conservatives don't trust either of you?

With that said...

Why then would you expect anything to get done in Congress?

We don't like each other ....

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
I find it extremely funny when many of the same people that voted FOR our invasion of Iraq, grumble about Russia invading a sovereign nation now and demand the President do something about that too!

There is a "slight" difference between trying to expand your borders (Russia) and trying to stabilize an area with a cruel dictator threatening wmds.
You can argue the wisdom of either but there is no comparison of the two that works.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

The GOP counts on their droolers to lack the intellect to recall FACTS like this.

And it works like a charm.

Just look at this board.

And some people don't know what the FACTS are or ignore them and make up their own version.

 

[Scout 4u]

Miller,
Though I agree with your assessment of History, others on this board do not .
SEE ABOVE

Good luck with that....

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by Scout 4u:
Miller,
Though I agree with your assessment of History, others on this board do not .
SEE ABOVE

Good luck with that....

They ignore facts about everything in order to get the narrative they want. If I were concerned with them not agreeing I would have been long gone.

 

[Scout 4u]

Miller,
We both already know we're right....
The problem is, everyone else believes their right too...

Fun debating never less ....

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

The GOP counts on their droolers to lack the intellect to recall FACTS like this.

And it works like a charm.

Just look at this board.

And some people don't know what the FACTS are or ignore them and make up their own version.

Yes you do that too.

thanks for stepping up and leading the drooler brigade.

 

[3Rfan]

Miller that's BS and you know it! If that's true why didn't they have a vote on it and vote NO and give the reason they voted that way? They didn't want to vote on it so they didn't have their name on it if it went bad! Are you saying the republicans now want to help Assad? If so why don't they step up and say so? All they say is the we need to do "something", what the heck is that something? Can they not put forth the plan THEY would like to see implemented? If we had armed the rebels in Sryia when McCain wanted to those weapons would most likely be in the hands of ISIS now just like those we left for the Iraqi army that ran away and left them for ISIS in nothern Iraq.

 

[3Rfan]

Miller Iraq was FAR more stable before we went there than it has been since or will be for very long time. Saddam was NO threat to us or anyone else. We had him boxed in and he knew it. If we wanted to take out evil dictators there were much worse guy we could have gone after... but they don't have oil so...

 

[Scout 4u]

3r,
Are you talking about the BIG OIL in northern Iraq that Obama chose to protect?
Noticed that he didn't care about the countries second largest city, Mosul.

 

[HannibalLector]

Originally posted by Scout 4u:
3r,
Are you talking about the BIG OIL in northern Iraq that Obama chose to protect?
Noticed that he didn't care about the countries second largest city, Mosul.

Are you referring to the BIG OIL Bush was going to use to pay for the Iraqi war?

 

[Scout 4u]

Neither were the right answer, both were wrong.

Next...

 

[3Rfan]

Obama didn't start the war in Iraq either.

 

[Scout 4u]

It is yet to be seen if he will start one in Syria...

 

[3Rfan]

That one would not be for oil, nor to depose a brutal dictator. It could very well help him stay in power, but without his chemical weapons stockpile.

 

[Scout 4u]

3r,
What is the American interest in Irbil that president Obama speaks of?

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
Miller that's BS and you know it! If that's true why didn't they have a vote on it and vote NO and give the reason they voted that way? They didn't want to vote on it so they didn't have their name on it if it went bad! Are you saying the republicans now want to help Assad? If so why don't they step up and say so? All they say is the we need to do "something", what the heck is that something? Can they not put forth the plan THEY would like to see implemented? If we had armed the rebels in Sryia when McCain wanted to those weapons would most likely be in the hands of ISIS now just like those we left for the Iraqi army that ran away and left them for ISIS in nothern Iraq.

You must have me confused with Rumor. I can't stand McCain and can't remember the last time I thought he was right. He's a LOT closer to you than me.
The people I listen to were all saying the gassing was a problem but didn't know how to stop it without helping the rebels (who were numerous sects then but are now one...ISIS) who would be worse.

Edit: There were guys like McCain who asked Congress to not vote at all so there wouldn't be a no vote. They said a no vote would have tied Obamas' hands.
This post was edited on 9/1 7:13 PM by millerbleach

 

[3Rfan]

Oh I get it now. A no vote would tie his hands but no vote at all was good. Just exactly what is it the "people like you" want to do now, in Syria and Iraq? I'm sure they must have all the answers.