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States who have increased min wage (middle out econ) gain employment

Buck Commander

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Think a higher minimum wage is a job killer?

Think again: The states that raised their minimum wages on January 1 have seen higher employment growth since then than the states that kept theirs at the same rate.

The minimum wage went up in 13 states - Arizona, Connecticut, Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington - either thanks to automatic increases in line with inflation or new legislation, as Ben Wolcott reports in his analysis at the Center for Economic and Policy Research. The average change in employment for those states over the first five months of the year as compared with the last five of 2013 is .99 percent, while the average for all remaining states is .68 percent.

Digging deeper, all but one of those states are experiencing increases in employment, and nine of them have seen growth above the median rate.

Wolcott's analysis builds on a previous one from Goldman Sachs, which did the same evaluation for just January and compares it to December of last year. It found that the states that had minimum wage increases experienced faster job growth than those without a raise.
This doesn't mean that increasing the minimum wage necessarily creates more jobs.

"While this kind of simple exercise can't establish causality, it does provide evidence against theoretical negative employment effects of minimum-wage increases," Wolcott writes. Indeed, it adds to the evidence that higher minimum wages may not hurt job growth as much as some have warned. Washington has the highest minimum wage and saw the biggest increase in small business jobs last year. Its job growth has also remained steady and above average in the 15 years since it raised its wage. When economists studied state-level minimum wage increases over two decades they didn't find any conclusive evidence that the raises impacted job creation.

That's all good news for the ten states that have increased their minimum wages this year. Massachusetts went the furthest, raising its wage to $11 by 2017, but three - Hawaii, Maryland, and Connecticut - passed the $10.10 minimum wage being pushed at the federal level by Democrats and Vermont increased its wage to $10.50. And some cities have gone even further, with Seattle enacting a $15 minimum wage.

Progress in raising the entire country's minimum wage has stalled, though. Republicans blocked a bill that would have increased it to $10.10 an hour.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/07/03/3456393/minimum-wage-state-increase-employment/
 
From the article: "When economists studied state-level minimum wage increases over two decades they didn't find any conclusive evidence that the raises impacted job creation."

Really??? Where did this come from so I make sure not to read it again...
This post was edited on 9/5 8:46 AM by Bearcat-time
 
Originally posted by Bearcat-time:
From the article: "When economists studied state-level minimum wage increases over two decades they didn't find any conclusive evidence that the raises impacted job creation."

Really??? Where did this come from so I make sure not to read it again...
This post was edited on 9/5 8:46 AM by Bearcat-time
Gave you a link. Use it.

Btw, way to be a typical Fox News conservative and pick out one thing that just says it isn't CONCLUSIVE, not that it's FALSE, and ignore all the other figures that say it seems to work.

It works 92.3% of the time according to recent statistics in the article, you're right, that isn't completely CONCLUSIVE in the same way that 99% of scientists agree that humans affect climate change, but you can always find one who say we dont.
 
They gave disclamers throughout the article that it wasn't necessarily the reason for the growth. I'm not dogging you, just the story writer.
 
Originally posted by Bearcat-time:

They gave disclamers throughout the article that it wasn't necessarily the reason for the growth. I'm not dogging you, just the story writer.
Trickle down obviously doesn't work, but you still vote to give the ultra wealthy tax cuts.

What's the definition of insanity again...?
 
If you can't tell that by how I post on here then I feel sorry for you man. Come on. On a lighter note, gotta get ready to get up to the press box for Friday night football!!!!
 
Too hot, move it Saturday. I'll be checkin out my first 5 year old flag football game about 1 oclock. Bound to be some slobberknockin action there.
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Originally posted by Bearcat-time:

They gave disclamers throughout the article that it wasn't necessarily the reason for the growth. I'm not dogging you, just the story writer.
If you were smart like Buck (wouldn't wish that on anyone) you'd realize that those disclaimers are irrelevant! In fact, they don't even exist because he doesn't agree with them.
 
Originally posted by millerbleach:
Originally posted by Bearcat-time:

They gave disclamers throughout the article that it wasn't necessarily the reason for the growth. I'm not dogging you, just the story writer.
If you were smart like Buck (wouldn't wish that on anyone) you'd realize that those disclaimers are irrelevant! In fact, they don't even exist because he doesn't agree with them.
No tax increase

Close ALL tax loopholes

Raise minimum wage to $ 12 an hour nationally.

Can't make it much more clear than that.
 
Originally posted by Buck Commander:

No tax increase

Close ALL tax loopholes

Raise minimum wage to $ 12 an hour nationally.

Can't make it much more clear than that.
You haven't ever said this before.

Your posted "middle out plan includes a tax increase.

Closing ALL tax loopholes raises nearly everyones taxes unless you just file short form. No mortgage interest deduction? No personal exemption? No child credit?

$12 an hour? You can't raise a family on $12/hr!!!!
 
EXACTLY! I heard a report yesterday that said 10% of the work force at most universities was minimum wage college kids. The report said Universities were already set to do away with most of them had the government raised the minimum wage to over $10.00/hr. Not too pro growth in my thinking and will hurt young adults trying to supplement their income during college.
 
Originally posted by millerbleach:
Originally posted by Buck Commander:

No tax increase

Close ALL tax loopholes

Raise minimum wage to $ 12 an hour nationally.

Can't make it much more clear than that.
You haven't ever said this before.

Your posted "middle out plan includes a tax increase.

Closing ALL tax loopholes raises nearly everyones taxes unless you just file short form. No mortgage interest deduction? No personal exemption? No child credit?

$12 an hour? You can't raise a family on $12/hr!!!!
Yeah you can.

May not have cable or perks, but you can get by on $12 an hour.

You CAN'T raise a family on $7.50 an hour.

You know what, you convinced me, let's just make it $15 an hour...good idea miller.
 
After you raise the minimum wage to $15 don't forget to give them mileage to get to work.
 
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