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St. Louis Chargers?

This was mentioned on TMA a month or so back. Not really breaking news.
 
Speaking of Saint Louis rumors. Is it true Roosevelt High School and football field was built on a cemetery?
 
Speaking of Saint Louis rumors. Is it true Roosevelt High School and football field was built on a cemetery?

We played up at Roosevelt in 2000. One of their ball carriers had sharpened the buckles on his chin strap and we had three different players who were forced to leave the field because their hands or arms were cut and bleeding. This was after we were told it was too dangerous to use a locker room so we stopped in south St. Louis and got dressed out in a giant sinkhole in the middle of a city park. It was surreal.
 
Are we beginning the process to start, then lose another NFL franchise?

The NFL is trying to kill two birds with one stone, it has a team floundering in a city that has not and will not embrace them and it wants the PSL lawsuit to go away.

It does make sense. There were more people at the Dome for a Girl Scouts fundraiser than there were "LA Chargers" fans in attendance at the Steelers game last week. They know St. Louis will embrace a team and attend games (despite what Kroenke said.)
 
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STL can support a football team. Even when Stan was running the team into the ground on purpose, they still held loyal. They were record bad for a stretch.

I doubt they ever get a team, but it would be awesome.
 
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It would make a lot of sense - STL would probably support the team as much or more than any other market and the in-state rivalry would be great. But as others have said, I don’t see this happening. The NFL has alienated fans in STL and San Diego. LA fans don’t give two @#$’s about the Chargers - maybe they would if the Rams weren’t there too but what an obvious and huge miscalculation to move them both.

I enjoy watching games and football in general but the NFL as a corporate entity is completely toxic and idiotic so I am perfectly content to watch the Chargers stay in LA and play in another teams stadium in front of their opponents fans.
 
No stadium means no team. STL is not funding a stadium for a NFL team and the chargers ownership will not do so.
 
No stadium means no team. STL is not funding a stadium for a NFL team and the chargers ownership will not do so.
I think if you saw a move, it would mean Spanos is no longer the owner. I would imagine the Taylor family would be the majority of a new ownership. But I don't think there's any chance of it happening. I would imagine the NFL will cut the city a big check before any discovery hearings happen.
 
Johnny Morris can build it. We could have the first Bass Pro Shop Themed football stadium and team. Just go ahead and change the name of the team too. Johnny Morris Presents the Bass Pro Shop Bucks. Their jerseys can be camo with hunter orange lettering.
 
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Have a contact very high up in the Rams organization. Said a couple yrs ago that the Chargers are getting bent on the LA deal. The city will never finance a new stadium again.
 
I’ve heard this rumor as well. They are also talking to another city if STL doesn’t work out.
 
Do you really think STL would ever get another NFL team again. I wouldn’t think so that’s my 2cents

If it makes a lawsuit which is a bigger embarrassment for the league go away?

Yeah I absolutely think they'd give the city another team.
 
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Why would they add a 4th team to Florida when the other 3 have had major attendance issues this decade?

Because unless you look at the St. Louis metro area, San Antonio, Orlando, and Portland are the largest markets in the country without an NFL team. It's the same reason L.A. got two NFL teams to begin with, they look at population and potential.

Also the reason the city/county split hurts St. Louis from an optics standpoint.

St. Louis City with 318,000 people is the 68th largest city in the country. Smaller than Tulsa.

Factor in St. Louis county and the population jumps to a little over 1.3 million and the 9th biggest city in the country.
 
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Because unless you look at the St. Louis metro area, San Antonio, Orlando, and Portland are the largest markets in the country without an NFL team. It's the same reason L.A. got two NFL teams to begin with, they look at population and potential.

Also the reason the city/county split hurts St. Louis from an optics standpoint.

St. Louis City with 318,000 people is the 68th largest city in the country. Smaller than Tulsa.

Factor in St. Louis county and the population jumps to a little over 1.3 million and the 9th biggest city in the country.
They tend to look primarily at TV market size, and StL is a top-20 market, which makes them the largest market without an NFL team by far.
 
Do you think the fans would support the NFL here again? I know they supported the Rams up until the very end, but the league was as responsible for them leaving as Kronke was. I know when the Rams left I quit watching any NFL at all. They will survive without my dollars and screen time, but I can't imagine their would be loads of people willing to pay out big dollars for PSL's, season tickets again. I much prefer the college game. You see some variance in offenses, the rivalries, the characters like Mike Leach, calling the hogs, etc type of stuff much more interesting to me than NFL..
 
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Do you think the fans would support the NFL here again? I know they supported the Rams up until the very end, but the league was as responsible for them leaving as Kronke was. I know when the Rams left I quit watching any NFL at all. They will survive without my dollars and screen time, but I can't imagine their would be loads of people willing to pay out big dollars for PSL's, season tickets again. I much prefer the college game. You see some variance in offenses, the rivalries, the characters like Mike Leach, calling the hogs, etc type of stuff much more interesting to me than NFL..

No idea. I think if we got something in writing that they couldn't remove the team for 50 years or longer people might be more willing to buy in.
 
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We had season tickets from day 1 - 2012 ish. Had reasonably priced seats with pretty cheap PSL's. I know that they are much more expensive now. I would imagine a lot of the folks who had several thousand dollars tied up in PSL's and yr 1 tickets would be pretty apprehensive to give out more money.

I have a hard time believing the league would ever say "sorry STL, we realize we screwed you over and we would like to make this right" and send another team this way.

Maybe that new loop area trolley could lead to the new stadium and bring it out of money woe's.....what another mess.
 
If the NFL knows there is more money to be made they can and will fund a stadium.

There is no way the NFL would fund a stadium in STL. It sets a bad precedent for other cities and investing in STL is not attractive enough to spend that kind of cash especially when they are other cities that would not require NFL funding. if they didn't pay for the stadium in LA, they won't pay for the one in STL.
 
I have a hard time believing the league would ever say "sorry STL, we realize we screwed you over and we would like to make this right" and send another team this way.
I do too...but the theory from those that believe this is the NFL wants no part of the discovery process involving the move. If the lawsuit goes far enough, that will eventually happen. I'm of the belief the city will eventually take the money.
 
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