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Sorry to Notre Dame fans

LOL. I'm a Cowboys fan but can't stand the Yankees or ND. I just have to give the Domers their due nowadays. I think they have been overrated for so long that recently they have probably been if anything underrated.
 
I just have to give the Domers their due nowadays. I think they have been overrated for so long that recently they have probably been if anything underrated.

Except they're not.
2014 went from 17 to NR
2013 went from 14 to 21
2012 NR to 4 (we all know how that worked out) This is the one time in 10 years they bettered their 'rating'.
2011 16 to NR
2010 NR to NR
2009 23 to NR
Source doesn't have 2008 and 2007. 2008 they were 7-6 and 2007 they were 3-9
2006 2 to NR
2005 20 to NR

Sorry but I like things to be factual.

http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_preseason_team.cfm?teamid=7#.VhVc5CurHfd
 
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Except they're not.
2014 went from 17 to NR
2013 went from 14 to 21
2012 NR to 4 (we all know how that worked out) This is the one time in 10 years they bettered their 'rating'.
2011 16 to NR
2010 NR to NR
2009 23 to NR
Source doesn't have 2008 and 2007. 2008 they were 7-6 and 2007 they were 3-9
2006 2 to NR
2005 20 to NR

Sorry but I like things to be factual.

http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_preseason_team.cfm?teamid=7#.VhVc5CurHfd

Not talking about the same thing. By and large ND's schedule with the exception of 2-3 games (Michigan, USC) through the 1980's was a bunch of softies and then for most of the history they skipped the bowl games.

At least nowadays they play a pretty tough schedule and no FBS schools and don't skip the bowl game. They are 4-1 with a loss by 2 at Clemson and are ranked 15th. In the same place 25 years ago they are probably still being voted in the top 10.
 
Notre Dame played poorly and still only lost by two points if they were in the SEC they'd be in the top 10. Lol

Look at how far Ol Miss jumped after they beat Alabama then they absolutely got their butts kicked by Florida who Tennessee should've beat! That conference just consistently gets the benefit of the doubt! that's just the way I see it.
 
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If you watch 4-5 games a week you know there are a lot of good teams all over the country. However, the SEC has a ton of big physical athletes. Tennessee looks like an NFL roster, but they still struggle to win. Georgia is good and just got destroyed by Bama. SEC is very good still.
 
Not talking about the same thing. By and large ND's schedule with the exception of 2-3 games (Michigan, USC) through the 1980's was a bunch of softies and then for most of the history they skipped the bowl games.

At least nowadays they play a pretty tough schedule and no FBS schools and don't skip the bowl game. They are 4-1 with a loss by 2 at Clemson and are ranked 15th. In the same place 25 years ago they are probably still being voted in the top 10.

Who on ND's schedule can be considered a legit national title contender? I know you want their schedule to be considered tough because they played OU a couple of times but as long as they keep navy, purdue, wake forest, temple, pitt, bc, etc on there that's not a tough schedule. USC isn't the team of Carroll's time. Stanford? Lost to NW. Sometimes they're good. Last year...not so much. Texas is horrible. UVA? GT was good last year. UMass? Clemson is up and down. Poorly coached(tennesee-ish) Pitt? Hugh Green ain't playin man.BC? Umm..no?

You are right that they get ranked too high. If you look at your teams preseason vs postseason rankings they're very similar.
 
Who on ND's schedule can be considered a legit national title contender? I know you want their schedule to be considered tough because they played OU a couple of times but as long as they keep navy, purdue, wake forest, temple, pitt, bc, etc on there that's not a tough schedule. USC isn't the team of Carroll's time. Stanford? Lost to NW. Sometimes they're good. Last year...not so much. Texas is horrible. UVA? GT was good last year. UMass? Clemson is up and down. Poorly coached(tennesee-ish) Pitt? Hugh Green ain't playin man.BC? Umm..no?

You are right that they get ranked too high. If you look at your teams preseason vs postseason rankings they're very similar.


USC isnt the USC of Carrolls time. LOL do you think that might have something to do with the loss of 30 Football schollys the last 3 years or the ban on post season from Mr. Carrolls Bush shenanigans?
And Clemson is up and down? Undefeated this year, 10-3 last year beat SC, 11-2 in 2013 beat Georgia, 11-2 in 2012 beat Auburn and LSU, 10-4 in 2011 beat Auburn. 42-11 the last 4 seasons isnt bad by any means.
 
Yeah when Notre Dame made that schedule they knew Texas would be down USC wouldn't be a title contender Stanford Would not be a top 20 team. I think the SEC is down I think Alabama's still the best team in that league and everybody else is chasing them. I think Missouri is average this year Auburn Tennessee South Carolina Arkansas Mississippi State I'm not sold LSU is that great and Georgia can't win a big game to save their life. Has LSU played a big team yet at all for their lofty hype!
 
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Who on ND's schedule can be considered a legit national title contender? I know you want their schedule to be considered tough because they played OU a couple of times but as long as they keep navy, purdue, wake forest, temple, pitt, bc, etc on there that's not a tough schedule. USC isn't the team of Carroll's time. Stanford? Lost to NW. Sometimes they're good. Last year...not so much. Texas is horrible. UVA? GT was good last year. UMass? Clemson is up and down. Poorly coached(tennesee-ish) Pitt? Hugh Green ain't playin man.BC? Umm..no?

You are right that they get ranked too high. If you look at your teams preseason vs postseason rankings they're very similar.

Who on anyone's schedule can be considered s national champion contender? Everyone sucks and they always have.
 
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Yeah when Notre Dame made that schedule they knew Texas would be down USC wouldn't be a title contender Stanford Would not be a top 20 team. I think the SEC is down I think Alabama's still the best team in that league and everybody else is chasing them. I think Missouri is average this year Auburn Tennessee South Carolina Arkansas Mississippi State I'm not sold use that great and Georgia can't win a big game to save their life. Has LSU played a big team yet at all for their lofty hype!

The committee can't base decisions on how good Notre Dames schedule "should" have been. It's not NDs fault. But a lot of those teams are having below average years. In the old days bowls would ignore that and let ND play in a major bowl. Not any more. If your schedule is weak, you don't get bonus points.
 
No doubt because ND has a big following they do get a leg up ! No I wouldn't get in a conference unless the money drys up in tv contracts!
 

You make it all too easy. Rag on NDs schedule, yet MU beat ZERO ranked teams to win their SEC Least title. ZERO
 
You make it all too easy. Rag on NDs schedule, yet MU beat ZERO ranked teams to win their SEC Least title. ZERO

Yet they still didn't get completely butt stomped and exposed in the postseason. Quite the contrary in fact.

Amazing how that works out. Rankings are so awesome. What was OU ranked to start last year?
 
Yet they still didn't get completely butt stomped and exposed in the postseason. Quite the contrary in fact.

Amazing how that works out. Rankings are so awesome. What was OU ranked to start last year?


I'm not following ya on the postseason thing
 
Yet they still didn't get completely butt stomped and exposed in the postseason. Quite the contrary in fact.

Amazing how that works out. Rankings are so awesome. What was OU ranked to start last year?

Yeah they got completely butt stomped in the regular season. I'm sorry did MU play in the playoffs?
 
Notre Dame played poorly and still only lost by two points if they were in the SEC they'd be in the top 10. Lol

Look at how far Ol Miss jumped after they beat Alabama then they absolutely got their butts kicked by Florida who Tennessee should've beat! That conference just consistently gets the benefit of the doubt! that's just the way I see it.
Let me see if I can follow the logic. Ole miss is overrated because they beat Alabama (who is undoubtedly a good team) but lost to a team that is undefeated but maybe shouldn't be?
 
MU won the SEC East last year without beating a single ranked team. #championships
Funny, that wasn't the narrative last season. Usc, Texas a&m, Arkansas, and Tennessee were all the "hot teams" going into their game with mizzou. Of course, mizzou won all those games, so naturally those teams suck. Oh, and they soundly beat a "good" big 10 team in a bowl.

To think mizzou wasn't good last year is asinine
 
Funny, that wasn't the narrative last season. Usc, Texas a&m, Arkansas, and Tennessee were all the "hot teams" going into their game with mizzou. Of course, mizzou won all those games, so naturally those teams suck. Oh, and they soundly beat a "good" big 10 team in a bowl.

To think mizzou wasn't good last year is asinine

Asinine is running your mouth about an undefeated FSU team, when MU got stomped by Georgia and lose to Indiana.
 
Yeah they got completely butt stomped in the regular season. I'm sorry did MU play in the playoffs?
Did FSU play in the playoffs? I'm not sure you can count that pathetic showing as 'playing'.
Everyone knew they didn't belong. What a joke. I'm just glad they got the '12 Domer treatment.
 
Asinine is running your mouth about an undefeated FSU team, when MU got stomped by Georgia and lose to Indiana.

FSU got turboed by the team that got ROLLED by OSU...that just got by Bama IIRC.

Just getting to the game only to get TURBO clocked means you didn't belong.
 
FSU got turboed by the team that got ROLLED by OSU...that just got by Bama IIRC.

Just getting to the game only to get TURBO clocked means you didn't belong.

But you're SEC Least champs right? We all know who the best team in the Least was. What was the Georgia score?

Veer logic kicking in full speed ahead this morning.

I'd say playing a top 25 SOS and going undefeated warranted them to be there. It fell apart in a big way in the second half. Let us all base the season on one game. How was Georgia and Indiana again?
 
FSU got turboed by the team that got ROLLED by OSU...that just got by Bama IIRC.

Just getting to the game only to get TURBO clocked means you didn't belong.

It means you don't belong in the championship game. FSU was the defending national champ and was undefeated going into the playoff. Regardless of how the playoff went they deserved to be there and get stomped more than anyone.

If Ohio st continues to struggle but wins every game they will belong in the playoff this year.
 
It means you don't belong in the championship game. FSU was the defending national champ and was undefeated going into the playoff. Regardless of how the playoff went they deserved to be there and get stomped more than anyone.

If Ohio st continues to struggle but wins every game they will belong in the playoff this year.

Dude is full blown stupid this morning.
 
Well Mensa boy, I don't think I was talking to you before your last post that quoted me, was I?
 
It means you don't belong in the championship game. FSU was the defending national champ and was undefeated going into the playoff. Regardless of how the playoff went they deserved to be there and get stomped more than anyone.

If Ohio st continues to struggle but wins every game they will belong in the playoff this year.

I disagree. What you did last year should have zero bearing on this year.

OU struggling last year should affect if they're added to playoff? No. It's about this year.
 
So an undefeated team with a top 25 schedule shouldn't make the playoff compared to another team with a regular season loss? #veerlogic
 
Well Mensa boy, I don't think I was talking to you before your last post that quoted me, was I?
Confusing, because you directly referenced my post while foaming at the mouth about FSU. A good inference would be that you're talking to me.
 
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Veer, do you realize these schedules are made years in advance? Not sure you have figured that out. You try and downplay ND's schedule but totally ignore Mizzou's garbage non-conference and depleted SEC LEAST schedule. Both years they have won the SEC LEAST, the division has be AWFUL. Last year they won the division without beating one single team in the Top 25. Got pasted by Georgia at home and lost to low end BIG 10 team in Indiana.

ND's schedule is as tough as anybody's. Can't help what teams do vs. other opponents. There are zero cupcakes like SEMO, Ark St., UCONN on there. They will never play a D 1AA team like other teams

For somebody that thinks ND is garbage you sure like to talk about them a lot. You are little obsessed. Must of got rejected from school there or something.

How good the schools on the ND schedule use to be is irrelevant to this season. Mizzou's schedule has nothing to do with ND.

ND is the team that starts every year rated high and finishes not nearly as high. What does that mean? It means they are over rated. Seems like a simple concept to understand.
 
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