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which has proven to be safe and affective but they WILL go to their local farm store and get some horse medicine and take it for Covid???? The stuff they're taking is very dangerous to humans and the directions don't give a dosage for humans so they're just guessing how much to take.
Meanwhile right here in P.B. today they had 8 ambulances lined up outside the ER because they have no place to put the people they brought to the E.R. There are people being turned away that need some kind of treatment and they can't even get inside the building.
 
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On Meet the Depressed, they showed a list of the top 50 counties in the US with the highest infection rates. All but one voted Trump, and they voted Trump by a 40% margin, and all in the southeast US. Coincidence??
 
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kaskaskiakid said:
On Meet the Depressed, they showed a list of the top 50 counties in the US with the highest infection rates. All but one voted Trump, and they voted Trump by a 40% margin, and all in the southeast US. Coincidence??
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gotta be deep state numbers
 
If Biden would give Trump a little credit for Warp Speed and developing the vaccine and maybe try to work with him instead of against him in everything that he did maybe the country would come together a little better on this one.
 
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MOpossum said:
If Biden would give Trump a little credit for Warp Speed and developing the vaccine and maybe try to work with him instead of against him in everything that he did maybe the country would come together a little better on this one.
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I've heard him do just that. If 'the country' needs that to get a life saving shot it's the country that has a problem. I'm not sure anybody can work with Trump, if they try he stabs them in the back the first chance he gets.
 
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3Rfan said:
I've heard him do just that. If 'the country' needs that to get a life saving shot it's the country that has a problem. JI'm it sure anybody can work with Trump, if they try he stabs them in the back the first chance he gets.
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I remember Biden and Harris both saying they didn't trust the trump vaccine and wouldn't take it back during the campaign

but now they flip flop and swear it's the greatest thing since polio vaccine

why should anyone believe them
 
I like Singapore's new law - if you are unvaccinated, get the rona, and are hospitalized, you pay the bill!!!!!!!!

cardsrock15 said:
I remember Biden and Harris both saying they didn't trust the trump vaccine and wouldn't take it back during the campaign
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They were talking about Trump's disinfectant vaccine!!!;)😝😆🤣
 
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Both Harris and Biden said they would trust the doctors, specifically Dr Fauci. Cards is delusional.
 
kaskaskiakid said:
I like Singapore's new law - if you are unvaccinated, get the rona, and are hospitalized, you pay the bill!!!!!!!!
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In my lifetime that was the law here FOR EVERYTHING and it was a good system. Medical care was cheap and affordable. Then the government got involved and F'ed everything up and now we have a system we can't afford.
 
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The government is not charging my mom hundreds of dollars for insulin.

The government didn’t gouge families by jacking up the price of epipens by 400% That was Joe Manchin’s daughter.

The government doesn’t charge $2,500 for an MRI on a machine that’s been paid off for 25 years.

The government didn’t jack up the prices of hearing aids, dental crowns, CT scans, etc etc etc

We need price controls. We need government to do its job.
 
Toots_mcgee said:
The government is not charging my mom hundreds of dollars for insulin.

The government didn’t gouge families by jacking up the price of epipens by 400% That was Joe Manchin’s daughter.

The government doesn’t charge $2,500 for an MRI on a machine that’s been paid off for 25 years.

The government didn’t jack up the prices of hearing aids, dental crowns, CT scans, etc etc etc

We need price controls. We need government to do its job.
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The government DID pass a law preventing Medicare from negotiating prescription drug prices. Don't defend politicians!! They are in bed with Big Pharma!!
 
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When the CDC pushes a narrative instead of admitting and exploring viable possibilities, they come off looking like they have an agenda. It's then hard to trust them.
1. The vaccine has been effective but has questionable aspects. No drug ever gets FDA approval as fast as this did and for a good reason. One of the phases towards approval is to examine the side effects. Normally each phase takes 2-10 years simply because the side effects don't manifest early. One of the largest case studies posted these results - "The data showed a rate of about 1 in 5,000 experienced a breakthrough infection between January 17 and August 21, 2021. More recently, some populations have shown breakthrough infection rates of approximately 1 in 100 fully vaccinated people." With all of this information it's obvious that the vaccine is good but not a foolproof saving agent.
2. The CDC will not allow natural immunity protection to be equal with the vaccine. This is puzzling with all the data coming out about both. Even their own website posts this, "Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare." Every doctor I've talked to says that natural immunities are the best defense against getting or spreading COVID-19. These doctors and a lot of Americans are perplexed as to why the CDC won't admit this. Here is a senate hearing where the CDC spokesperson dances around simple questions -

3. You can call it a horse medicine all you want, Ivermectin is an FDA approved medicine for humans. There is absolutely zero difference in the medicine used to treat animals or humans. Over 20 countries have adopted Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19. The latest case studies show a 67% improvement with early treatment, 37% improvement with late treatment and 86% improvement with it being used as a prophylaxis. I know a doctor that has only lost a couple very elderly people to COVID after treating hundreds due in part to his treatment with Ivermectin. This doctor has put his practice at risk to save lives.
4. The same people that push the "my body, my choice" nonsense won't allow that mantra to be used with the COVID vaccine. Why are people so emotionally charged towards people that don't want a vaccine? If it's to save their lives, then help get people past the massive inconsistencies of the CDC and government instead of throwing around fight starting one liners. If you want to really save lives, let's head to the closest abortion clinic and lovingly talk to these precious girls that are about to end the life of their baby. THIS should get everyone emotional. The only populace that cannot speak up for themselves are being murdered at a rate that COVID will never see. My body, my choice to murder a baby but not allowable for an adult with their own decision making powers????
The bottom line is control. Concerning the unvaccinated, Biden said, our patience is wearing thin" thus ordering OSHA to tighten down on anyone not vaccinated. A government mandate to be vaccinated violates the Constitution and other federal laws. With all of these inconsistencies it's no wonder people don't trust government or their mandates. Even many serving in Congress are trying to question the inconsistencies but are running into the Fauci dance party, dancing around answering simple questions. The worst part, this is dividing good American citizens and pitting them against each other over untrustworthy political agendas.
 
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The CDC was well respected and not constantly worried about politics until the Orange d-bag started turning a pandemic into wrestle mania. He single handedly destroyed the credibility of GOP, DOJ, FBI, CDC and more. He is a cancer on our country.
 
kaskaskiakid said:
I like Singapore's new law - if you are unvaccinated, get the rona, and are hospitalized, you pay the bill!!!!!!!!



They were talking about Trump's disinfectant vaccine!!!;)😝😆🤣
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Shouldn't the bill be between the Insurance companies and the patients paying the premiums?

Or are you just talking about people who get the Freebie care?
 
Toots_mcgee said:
The CDC was well respected and not constantly worried about politics until the Orange d-bag started turning a pandemic into wrestle mania. He single handedly destroyed the credibility of GOP, DOJ, FBI, CDC and more. He is a cancer on our country.
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LOL Orange Man....bad. That is your answer? He has limited Control over those Agency's and literally the FBI went after on the word of a Clinton Operative.
 
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LOL Orange Man....bad. That is your answer? He has limited Control over those Agency's and literally the FBI went after on the word of a Clinton Operative.
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Are you that blind? Trump ran the DOJ. He pressured Sessions to resign for disagreeing with him and appointed the puppet William Barr to rubber stamp his directives. He bullied people in every gov department who disagreed with him, and tarnished people's reputation. Trump tried to control all agencies under federal control to suit his needs. To say he had "limited control" is laughable, but predictable considering the source.
 
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You overstate how much control Trump had...I don't refute at all that he tried to use hardcore tactics to get his way. But every President has done that in the Past. He just was resisted more than any President. He got little done from all his BS.

Literally the FBI was still under control of the Clintons and Obama after Trump was elected as it's has now been Proven beyond a shadow of a doubt with the FBI finally coming forward that the Steel Dossier was a complete and total hit job. It might be a bit natural to be hardcore to with those who are actively attacking you without cause and evidence.
 
If you notice, it's the Trumpers who keep bringing up the Lying King Donald. Biden has 2 yrs to turn things around, but he's still a 1 term president. Dems have to find another candidate for '24. But I don't think Orange Man Bad can win after Jan 6 BS. That proved to Americans, besides the cult, just how crazy and dangerous the MFer is.
 
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Trump campaigned in 2016 on infrastructure. A bipartisan 2T deal was reached and then Trump pulled the plug.

Biden got infrastructure passed. Other than a tax cut for billionaires and stealing money from the military budget for a fence, what did Trump actually accomplish besides losing the popular vote twice?
 
kaskaskiakid said:
If you notice, it's the Trumpers who keep bringing up the Lying King Donald. Biden has 2 yrs to turn things around, but he's still a 1 term president. Dems have to find another candidate for '24. But I don't think Orange Man Bad can win after Jan 6 BS. That proved to Americans, besides the cult, just how crazy and dangerous the MFer is.
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He has zero chance IMO.
 
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House committee releases new evidence from investigation into Trump administration interference with CDC during Covid-19 pandemic

The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis released to CNN on Friday new evidence showing how US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials were pressured by Trump administration officials to alter scientific guidance and prevented from communicating directly with the public.
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Please link the actual article the Twitter stuff is very suspect to say the least in their analysis.
 
MGHS said:
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House committee releases new evidence from investigation into Trump administration interference with CDC during Covid-19 pandemic

The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis released to CNN on Friday new evidence showing how US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials were pressured by Trump administration officials to alter scientific guidance and prevented from communicating directly with the public.
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Please link the actual article the Twitter stuff is very suspect to say the least in their analysis.
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so the CDC at the time was telling people NOT to wear a mask ,,,,,,,,and they were upset that people were wanting to filter the crap they were putting out??? The CDC reports to the president and they way it is ran is 100% up to him and nobody else.

CDC does not currently recommend the use of facemasks to help prevent novel #coronavirus. Take everyday preventive actions, like staying home when you are sick and washing hands with soap and water, to help slow the spread of respiratory illness.

SO they were telling people something that we now know is 100% wrong, and were upset because the President didnt want them to be holding press conferences telling the American people what to do??

Sounds like Trump made the correct call
 
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so the CDC at the time was telling people NOT to wear a mask ,,,,,,,,and they were upset that people were wanting to filter the crap they were putting out??? The CDC reports to the president and they way it is ran is 100% up to him and nobody else.

CDC does not currently recommend the use of facemasks to help prevent novel #coronavirus. Take everyday preventive actions, like staying home when you are sick and washing hands with soap and water, to help slow the spread of respiratory illness.

SO they were telling people something that we now know is 100% wrong, and were upset because the President didnt want them to be holding press conferences telling the American people what to do??

Sounds like Trump made the correct call
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But your cool with election results lies being spread by the president?
 
Expect2Win said:
But your cool with election results lies being spread by the president
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Politics....Both sides always think that way....

blogs.lse.ac.uk

Many Democrats think that the 2016 election result was rigged

Previous studies have found that after an election, supporters of the losing candidate tend to be more likely to believe that votes were counted improperly. So how did Donald Trump’s claims t…
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www.yahoo.com

Hillary Clinton Maintains 2016 Election ‘Was Not On the Level’: ‘We Still Don’t Know What Really Happened’

Hillary Clinton is sticking with her conviction that the 2016 presidential election was not conducted legitimately, saying the details surrounding her loss are still unclear."There was a widespread understanding that this election [in 2016] was not on the level," Clinton said during an interview...
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Not sure anyone is cool with it but it's how the game is played..
 
MGHS said:
Politics....Both sides always think that way....

blogs.lse.ac.uk

Many Democrats think that the 2016 election result was rigged

Previous studies have found that after an election, supporters of the losing candidate tend to be more likely to believe that votes were counted improperly. So how did Donald Trump’s claims t…
blogs.lse.ac.uk blogs.lse.ac.uk


www.yahoo.com

Hillary Clinton Maintains 2016 Election ‘Was Not On the Level’: ‘We Still Don’t Know What Really Happened’

Hillary Clinton is sticking with her conviction that the 2016 presidential election was not conducted legitimately, saying the details surrounding her loss are still unclear."There was a widespread understanding that this election [in 2016] was not on the level," Clinton said during an interview...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

Not sure anyone is cool with it but it's how the game is played..
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I'm pretty sure Clinton conceded.
 
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I guess I missed it when Hillary had a rally AFTER the election and encouraged people to March to the capitol and take back their country.
 
I literally post a Video of his concession and you Tell me to grow up. Does your eye's and ears and grey matter not work. Seriously you can watch the video. He conceded. Just like Hillary....and neither believed the results of their respective elections . So why are you so emotional about Trumps not accepting it but you just ignore the other side not accepting
 
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