So eating Red Meat fresh or processed is not bad for you

[bueno_Tuco]

For 30 years doctors and scientists have been preaching for you to limit your consumption of red meat

Now pier reviewed results from a long term study concludes there is no statistical evidence to back those claims up, and now they say it’s probably actually good for you

Brought to you by the same folks pushing Global Warming

 

[3Rfan]

For 30 years doctors and scientists have been preaching for you to limit your consumption of red meat

Now pier reviewed results from a long term study concludes there is no statistical evidence to back those claims up, and now they say it’s probably actually good for you

Brought to you by the same folks pushing Global Warming

Not exactly in the same business.

 

[Veerman_12]

Not exactly in the same business.

Science? Yeah that's the same business.

 

[millerbleach]

Not exactly in the same business.

If in no other way, they both are busy bodies interfering and attempting to control others personal behavior while being proven wrong seemingly every time.

 

[Veerman_12]

If in no other way, they both are busy bodies interfering and attempting to control others personal behavior while being proven wrong seemingly every time.

You still talking science, or being more specific? Because if you use a phone, medicine, or drive a car you trust science.

 

[millerbleach]

You still talking science, or being more specific? Because if you use a phone, medicine, or drive a car you trust science.

I was referring to the topic of this thread. Both instances cited have tried to control personal behavior for "the greater good" while their claims got proven wrong over time.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I was referring to the topic of this thread. Both instances cited have tried to control personal behavior for "the greater good" while their claims got proven wrong over time.

Cigarettes don't cause cancer

 

[Veerman_12]

I was referring to the topic of this thread. Both instances cited have tried to control personal behavior for "the greater good" while their claims got proven wrong over time.

That's how science works though, you use the best observable information you have and if that information changes, you change your message.

It's not "evil science" with an agenda necessarily, it may just be that they have new information.

 

[SadButTrue]

That's how science works though, you use the best observable information you have and if that information changes, you change your message.

It's not "evil science" with an agenda necessarily, it may just be that they have new information.

Bang. Miller gets schooled.

 

[Veerman_12]

So glad we agree. Those busy bodies trying to interfere and control my sister’s reproduction decisions have got to go.

Your sister has no right to murder a child. If she doesn't want to get pregnant she should close her legs.

 

[millerbleach]

That's how science works though, you use the best observable information you have and if that information changes, you change your message.

It's not "evil science" with an agenda necessarily, it may just be that they have new information.

I don't have a problem with science. It is "science" with a political motivation that I have a problem with.

 

[Cardsfan74]

So glad we agree. Those busy bodies trying to interfere and control my sister’s reproduction decisions have got to go.

Has someone told her she had to have sex??? Unless they have she has total control over her reproductive decisions. You must have missed Junior High Health class huh

 

[millerbleach]

It’s not a child. A one month old fetus could not possibly survive a birth. You going to force me to adapt your other religious beliefs too? Or should we follow the U.S. law?

Is it a child at 8 months? When does it become a child? If you are worried about the first month, advocate for laws that allow abortion in only the first month of pregnancy......or until viable.....or whatever point you believe it becomes a child.

 

[millerbleach]

So glad we agree. Those busy bodies trying to interfere and control my sister’s reproduction decisions have got to go.

I know of no reproductive decision your sister doesn't have control over unless she is raped.

 

[Veerman_12]

It’s not a child. A one month old fetus could not possibly survive a birth. You going to force me to adapt your other religious beliefs too? Or should we follow the U.S. law?

Is it human?

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Is it a child at 8 months? When does it become a child? If you are worried about the first month, advocate for laws that allow abortion in only the first month of pregnancy......or until viable.....or whatever point you believe it becomes a child.

Your repubs allow abortion

 

[Veerman_12]

Your repubs allow abortion

Republican governors and state legislators in red states do their very best to restrict it while staying in compliance with Roe v. Wade.

At the federal level there's really nothing Republicans can do to overturn a Supreme Court ruling.

Not sure if you're trolling or uninformed?

 

[Expect2Win]

I don't have a problem with science. It is "science" with a political motivation that I have a problem with.

What is the "political motivation" to people eating healthier?
I think you are extremely hypocritical. You whine constantly to 3R for links yet someone posts a study you like, you jump to support it.
Buena I respect you, but I am not sure I agree with the premise.
You posted results from a controversial study, which is what I found when I did a search for the study you mentioned. I think this quote says enough.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/health/red-meat-low-quality-evidence-controversy-wellness/index.html
"NutriRECS's own data show that a moderate reduction in red and processed meat consumption within a healthy eating pattern can reduce total mortality by 13%, heart disease mortality by 14%, cancer mortality by 11% and type 2 diabetes risk by 24%," said Hu.

 

[Veerman_12]

What is the "political motivation" to people eating healthier?
I think you are extremely hypocritical. You whine constantly to 3R for links yet someone posts a study you like, you jump to support it.
Buena I respect you, but I am not sure I agree with the premise.
You posted results from a controversial study, which is what I found when I did a search for the study you mentioned. I think this quote says enough.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/health/red-meat-low-quality-evidence-controversy-wellness/index.html
"NutriRECS's own data show that a moderate reduction in red and processed meat consumption within a healthy eating pattern can reduce total mortality by 13%, heart disease mortality by 14%, cancer mortality by 11% and type 2 diabetes risk by 24%," said Hu.

I mean it's the same intellectual laziness that permeates everything these days, people start with a conclusion and with the advent of the internet can find more than enough data to support that conclusion.

The problem is, that's completely backwards from how things ideally SHOULD work. Gather information and THEN form a conclusion.

Whether it's pseudo-scientific articles, twitter, 24 hour biased media, etc, people can justify their position without ever having to acknowledge or even hear dissenting opinion. That's a real problem, because it leads to throngs of ill informed people who are all convinced they're absolutely right about whatever due to their daily reinforced confirmation bias.

 

[Veerman_12]

It’s not a child. A one month old fetus could not possibly survive a birth. You going to force me to adapt your other religious beliefs too? Or should we follow the U.S. law?

Is it human?

Crickets...

 

[Veerman_12]

All of its organs cannot function outside the mother so no. It’s not a human being. I don’t believe it is even considered a fetus until week 11 or so.

What species is it?

 

[Veerman_12]

All of its organs cannot function outside the mother so no. It’s not a human being. I don’t believe it is even considered a fetus until week 11 or so.

What species is it?

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