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Shortening The Season

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Does anyway else feel like this sports season just goes on to long? This sport is a month longer than any other sport during the school year, and that is only if you make it a few games into the playoffs in football. I just don't see why we can't get this done by the end of February, and I mean with state being the last week of Feb.. Any of the kids who really want to take this sport to the next level are going straight into club ball anyway, so they wouldn't be hurt. You can see it more and more with the mediocre teams and down, but some good teams too, that they are done with the sport by February anyway. And many of the club athletes can't wait to get into club ball, and the many of the others can't wait for track, soccer or baseball. At least for me Im good with it. With officials getting harder and harder to come by, we might have to go this route anyway. Less games, shorter season. Just a thought
 
To a point I understand what you are saying. We go one week during the season with no games plus have 1 game a week on two separate weeks. So in that three week span during the season we play 2 games. I think we can still play 25 games but cut down the season by 2 weeks. Still get plenty of practice in and have your 25 games season plus the tournament.
 
I agree somewhat also. Back in the day, we would have a 2 or 21/2 week layoff over Christmas. Maybe get back in for a couple of practices the last week and pick up again after the new year. Now, they play and practice right through the holidays. No wonder they are losing interest in February. A lot of games this time of year you see no effort from one or both teams.
 
NO!

Leave it alone!

My God some schools in Texas and Arkansas and other southern states play up to 40 games in a high school basketball season.

It'll mess up all the historical stats, etc.
 
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NO!

Leave it alone!

My God some schools in Texas and Arkansas and other southern states play up to 40 games in a high school basketball season.

It'll mess up all the historical stats, etc.

half the school year is to long. Just my opinion. I respect yours
 
Boy, snowflakes a plenty in here.

It's been this way for 70-80 years. Maybe even longer.

Are people really that soft these days? The season is the season! The End!

If people really want to change things, GET RID OF CONFERENCES! The districts should be the new conferences, just like Arkansas.
 
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Boy, snowflakes a plenty in here.

It's been this way for 70-80 years. Maybe even longer.

Are people really that soft these days? The season is the season! The End!

If people really want to change things, GET RID OF CONFERENCES! The districts should be the new conferences, just like Arkansas.


Oh geesh. Drugs?
 
Boy, snowflakes a plenty in here.

It's been this way for 70-80 years. Maybe even longer.

Are people really that soft these days? The season is the season! The End!

If people really want to change things, GET RID OF CONFERENCES! The districts should be the new conferences, just like Arkansas.

The purposes of districts are for playoff pairings. Conferences have long established rivalries (and some new ones). You are playing for something more than just the postseason. Missouri should be the model for other states for having BOTH conferences and districts and never try to copy states that have gotten rid of conferences.
 
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I think the time for conferences has come and gone. No kid today cares about it unless you choke in post-season play and only have a conference title to brag about. Until recent times, most conferences didn't give out trophies or have any sort of recognition for winning a conf. title other than adding a year to a banner in the gym that none of the seniors get to see unless they come back for a reunion 20 years later. I think conferences should be the new districts (play home & home) to determine the seeds for the post-season tournament. If you want to have a regular season champ, fine with me.
 
I think the time for conferences has come and gone. No kid today cares about it unless you choke in post-season play and only have a conference title to brag about. Until recent times, most conferences didn't give out trophies or have any sort of recognition for winning a conf. title other than adding a year to a banner in the gym that none of the seniors get to see unless they come back for a reunion 20 years later. I think conferences should be the new districts (play home & home) to determine the seeds for the post-season tournament. If you want to have a regular season champ, fine with me.

Conference championships are a huge deal (at least in Northern Missouri). If you don't think that Monroe City and Palmyra girls winning last night behind a more than capacity crowd to (potentially) win the CCC or Milan having an entire community get together before sending their teams off to get ready to play for the GRC championship Saturday, then you are not paying attention to what is going on in either community. Conference games take priority in re-scheduling games when games are postponed. Some have even been played AFTER postseason is over. That is how big conferences are here. They have NOT come and gone.

Also, you need to do a little research before you make comments about conferences giving out trophies or giving recognition. I am writing a book on the history of the GRC. Conferences were a big deal 90 years ago and they are a big deal now.
 
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Does anyway else feel like this sports season just goes on to long? This sport is a month longer than any other sport during the school year, and that is only if you make it a few games into the playoffs in football. I just don't see why we can't get this done by the end of February, and I mean with state being the last week of Feb.. Any of the kids who really want to take this sport to the next level are going straight into club ball anyway, so they wouldn't be hurt. You can see it more and more with the mediocre teams and down, but some good teams too, that they are done with the sport by February anyway. And many of the club athletes can't wait to get into club ball, and the many of the others can't wait for track, soccer or baseball. At least for me Im good with it. With officials getting harder and harder to come by, we might have to go this route anyway. Less games, shorter season. Just a thought
Tell Otto Porter Jr. that.
 
Conference championships are a huge deal (at least in Northern Missouri). If you don't think that Monroe City and Palmyra girls winning last night behind a more than capacity crowd to (potentially) win the CCC or Milan having an entire community get together before sending their teams off to get ready to play for the GRC championship Saturday, then you are not paying attention to what is going on in either community. Conference games take priority in re-scheduling games when games are postponed. Some have even been played AFTER postseason is over. That is how big conferences are here. They have NOT come and gone.

Also, you need to do a little research before you make comments about conferences giving out trophies or giving recognition. I am writing a book on the history of the GRC. Conferences were a big deal 90 years ago and they are a big deal now.

90 years yes and maybe in your part of MO, but down here the OC didn't give out trophies until last year. The media spends three seconds on which team has won this or that conference, then drops the subject as quickly as yesterday's newspaper in favor of the post-season. I don't like it, BUT IT'S REALITY!
 
Tell Otto Porter Jr. that.

Did you mean Coban Porter? yeah I heard about him. Sorry to hear that. And for every other kid, not named Porter, who season was shortened over a injury. So if you figured maybe 2 games a week. You really dont think you can squeeze 4 more games in 2 weeks less time? I would also venture to say. The winter sports season, has the least amount of kids participating, for most schools, yet it takes up the most amount of time. All i said was by the end of February
 
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Did you mean Coban Porter? yeah I heard about him. Sorry to hear that. And for every other kid, not named Porter, who season was shortened over a injury. So if you figured maybe 2 games a week. You really dont think you can squeeze 4 more games in 2 weeks less time? I would also venture to say. The winter sports season, has the least amount of kids participating, for most schools, yet it takes up the most amount of time. All i said was by the end of February
No I meant Otto Porter Jr from Scott County Central, that did NOT play summer ball. He turned out to be pretty good and played high D-1 and is doing quite well in the NBA. Basketball has the least amount of kids playing because it takes less players than baseball, track or football, and football only plays ONE game a week.
 
Does anyway else feel like this sports season just goes on to long? This sport is a month longer than any other sport during the school year, and that is only if you make it a few games into the playoffs in football. I just don't see why we can't get this done by the end of February, and I mean with state being the last week of Feb.. Any of the kids who really want to take this sport to the next level are going straight into club ball anyway, so they wouldn't be hurt. You can see it more and more with the mediocre teams and down, but some good teams too, that they are done with the sport by February anyway. And many of the club athletes can't wait to get into club ball, and the many of the others can't wait for track, soccer or baseball. At least for me Im good with it. With officials getting harder and harder to come by, we might have to go this route anyway. Less games, shorter season. Just a thought
First, Football and basketball are the same length in seasons now. Football is August-November and basketball November-First of March. You add in Thanksgiving break and Christmas break and you lose time in the season. Also you do not get much done early in the season if your school has football because the play-offs go into December now and then kids need a few days off before basketball in small schools. Not sure what the answer is, but IMO the sport season is just fine. Kids are doing something constructive and keeps them out of trouble as well.
 
First, Football and basketball are the same length in seasons now. Football is August-November and basketball November-First of March. You add in Thanksgiving break and Christmas break and you lose time in the season. Also you do not get much done early in the season if your school has football because the play-offs go into December now and then kids need a few days off before basketball in small schools. Not sure what the answer is, but IMO the sport season is just fine. Kids are doing something constructive and keeps them out of trouble as well.

There's another factor in the length of the season--snow days. The winter sports season needs to be slightly longer just to accommodate losing time to snow. Most schools have had rescheduled games this year and the Washington Tournament is on their fourth date for the championship game.
 
90 years yes and maybe in your part of MO, but down here the OC didn't give out trophies until last year. The media spends three seconds on which team has won this or that conference, then drops the subject as quickly as yesterday's newspaper in favor of the post-season. I don't like it, BUT IT'S REALITY!
So you want to eliminate conferences for the entire state because they don’t matter in HALF the state. Makes sense to me.
 
First, Football and basketball are the same length in seasons now. Football is August-November and basketball November-First of March. You add in Thanksgiving break and Christmas break and you lose time in the season. Also you do not get much done early in the season if your school has football because the play-offs go into December now and then kids need a few days off before basketball in small schools. Not sure what the answer is, but IMO the sport season is just fine. Kids are doing something constructive and keeps them out of trouble as well.

first. Football districts start at the end of the 3rd month. Basketball districts start at the end if the 4th month. Second. All kinds of teams play in tournaments over the holiday weekends. They practice during that time so why not play games. Also someone mentioned texas. Well i just pulled up katy high school and yes they have already played 30 games at this time and started around the same time. Unlike football most serious basketball players go right into club where they will play another 30 games. For record purposes im saying you will still play the same amount of games. As for as the snow argument, the same thing happens with baseball and the spring storms. I guarantee you more baseball games get lost because of rain than basketball and snow
 
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Most teams are done by the end February anyway. The teams playing into March are the good teams who are the most likely to not want the season to end anyway. I do think basketball started a week later this year didn't it?
 
Most teams are done by the end February anyway. The teams playing into March are the good teams who are the most likely to not want the season to end anyway. I do think basketball started a week later this year didn't it?

all sports did
 
Been talking to some veteran referees, good referees, and they are saying when they try to retire they get begged into returning, one more year, but not nearly enough young people are taking up the whistle. They further say they don't blame them and they have had it with coaches and fans and their behavior. Point is at this rate the season may be shortened by virtue of not enough refs to do all games at present level.
 
Been talking to some veteran referees, good referees, and they are saying when they try to retire they get begged into returning, one more year, but not nearly enough young people are taking up the whistle. They further say they don't blame them and they have had it with coaches and fans and their behavior. Point is at this rate the season may be shortened by virtue of not enough refs to do all games at present level.
This is sad that people can't behave at games. Refs are human, they are going to make mistakes, but they don't deserve to be abused like some fans do.
 
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So you want to eliminate conferences for the entire state because they don’t matter in HALF the state. Makes sense to me.
Anybody can eliminate their own conference affiliation anytime they want to. No school is forced to be in a conference that chooses not to.
 
Been talking to some veteran referees, good referees, and they are saying when they try to retire they get begged into returning, one more year, but not nearly enough young people are taking up the whistle. They further say they don't blame them and they have had it with coaches and fans and their behavior. Point is at this rate the season may be shortened by virtue of not enough refs to do all games at present level.

Exactly right. There isn't enough refs to go around. Might also end up not seeing freshman teams because of that also. And like we stated, any kid wanting to play more can move to club. You couldn't pay me enough to ref. I would venture to say, they don't want to come back due to fans more than the coaches.
 
Kids only have so many opportunities to play an actual game in high school. Why cut that short? And playing in AAU, Club and summer ball games are not the same as all as playing on a high school team.
 
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Kids only have so many opportunities to play an actual game in high school. Why cut that short? And playing in AAU, Club and summer ball games are not the same as all as playing on a high school team.

Where did i ever say playing less games? We mentioned Katy Texas. They have 30 games in as of last week. 30 games is plenty for a season. You can do it in a shorter period of time.
 
Agree with the comment that by the end of Feb and districts, most teams are done for the season, and the ones left still want to keep playing. It is a long season, but it's wintertime. A lot worse things kids could be doing than playing ball.

The Mineral Area Conference Tournament for boys and girls was this past week at Mineral Area College, which has hosted the conference tournament going on 50 years. Great atmosphere and always a packed house Friday and Saturday nights. Most likely the largest crowd most of the teams play in front of all year.
 
Agree with the comment that by the end of Feb and districts, most teams are done for the season, and the ones left still want to keep playing. It is a long season, but it's wintertime. A lot worse things kids could be doing than playing ball.

The Mineral Area Conference Tournament for boys and girls was this past week at Mineral Area College, which has hosted the conference tournament going on 50 years. Great atmosphere and always a packed house Friday and Saturday nights. Most likely the largest crowd most of the teams play in front of all year.
This tournament is one of, if not the best, ran tournaments in which I’ve ever been associated. That includes Christmas tournaments in Park Hills, Cape Girardeau and Bloomfield.
 
Been talking to some veteran referees, good referees, and they are saying when they try to retire they get begged into returning, one more year, but not nearly enough young people are taking up the whistle. They further say they don't blame them and they have had it with coaches and fans and their behavior. Point is at this rate the season may be shortened by virtue of not enough refs to do all games at present level.

Lolol
There's a simple solution to not having to deal with fans and coaches and we all know what it is...and I'm just talking about the misses that every legally blind person in the stadium can see.
 
I think the time for conferences has come and gone. No kid today cares about it unless you choke in post-season play and only have a conference title to brag about. Until recent times, most conferences didn't give out trophies or have any sort of recognition for winning a conf. title other than adding a year to a banner in the gym that none of the seniors get to see unless they come back for a reunion 20 years later. I think conferences should be the new districts (play home & home) to determine the seeds for the post-season tournament. If you want to have a regular season champ, fine with me.
It's been this way for 70-80 years. Maybe even longer.

Are people really that soft these days? The season is the season! The End!
 
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I think the time for conferences has come and gone. No kid today cares about it unless you choke in post-season play and only have a conference title to brag about. Until recent times, most conferences didn't give out trophies or have any sort of recognition for winning a conf. title other than adding a year to a banner in the gym that none of the seniors get to see unless they come back for a reunion 20 years later. I think conferences should be the new districts (play home & home) to determine the seeds for the post-season tournament. If you want to have a regular season champ, fine with me.
How would you seed your district based on what were conference games when you have class 3,4 and 5 teams in your conference? That's what the SEMO conference has and more often than not it's NOT the class 5 schools that win the conference.
 
How would you seed your district based on what were conference games when you have class 3,4 and 5 teams in your conference? That's what the SEMO conference has and more often than not it's NOT the class 5 schools that win the conference.

Well, in AR the conferences are based on class. Class 7A West, or Class 4A Region 3 etc.
 
Well, in AR the conferences are based on class. Class 7A West, or Class 4A Region 3 etc.
We ain't in Arkansas. In Arkansas you have to beat somebody about 3 times to get them out of the playoffs. If term pulls off an upset in their district the team they beat gets another shot at it, or if the top team wins they under dog gets another at them. Very strange system they have.

They would have to totally reconstruct the conferences around here to do the district tournament like you're talking about.
In the MAAA conference they have a large and small school regular season title.
 
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