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Toots_mcgee

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Was this reaction rehearsed? Planned?
No way in hell this was following protocol.

 
You can't compare that to saying Someone is the Next Hitler, a Existential threat to democracy, and that that person will turn America into a Dictatorship and oppress and kill millions.

Are you that thin skinned as Marxist? Or do you just want to have a Power position where anything leftist say no matter how vile and disgusting is accepted and anything even if it's a catchy tongue in cheek slogan from the other side is cancel worthy and falsely labeled as vile. No need to respond to this I know your desire.


I mean the Right laughs at Trumps Orange Tan and Bad Comb over and even joins in on those laughable things.
If the Left had some button with that nobody on the Conservative side is going to give to cents about it or even think to compare it to your comparison.
 
You can't compare that to saying Someone is the Next Hitler, a Existential threat to democracy, and that that person will turn America into a Dictatorship and oppress and kill millions.

Are you that thin skinned as Marxist? Or do you just want to have a Power position where anything leftist say no matter how vile and disgusting is accepted and anything even if it's a catchy tongue in cheek slogan from the other side is cancel worthy and falsely labeled as vile. No need to respond to this I know your desire.


I mean the Right laughs at Trumps Orange Tan and Bad Comb over and even joins in on those laughable things.
If the Left had some button with that nobody on the Conservative side is going to give to cents about it or even think to compare it to your comparison.
So enough about what the GOP VP candidate said...
 
Are you talking about his Never Trumper days? And the stuff he said about Trump? The fact that he called him a fraud and reprehensible? Clearly JDV was misinformed and has learned a thing or two since 2016/2017. And it obvious that Trump is willing to let those things go.

Or that Vance said there are some good Ideas in the 2025 project and Some he disagrees with?

I mean when you have hundreds of people contributing to a Document good and bad things will filter in that not all agree with.
 
Are you talking about his Never Trumper days? And the stuff he said about Trump? The fact that he called him a fraud and reprehensible? Clearly JDV was misinformed and has learned a thing or two since 2016/2017. And it obvious that Trump is willing to let those things go.

Or that Vance said there are some good Ideas in the 2025 project and Some he disagrees with?

I mean when you have hundreds of people contributing to a Document good and bad things will filter in that not all agree with.
Or maybe he's sucking up to get what he wants.

You guys are a cult.

Watch and see.
 
Why would we move? Trump isn't reading the MoSports message boards and he isn't going after white men.
 
Watch and Seeing is all any of us can do. But I'm pretty confident if Trump is elected and JDV is VP the economy will get better and those who are not unhinged and full of hate will be
Why would we move? Trump isn't reading the MoSports message boards and he isn't going after white men.
Wait what? I guess how you define a Dictator is Different than most because a true Hitler will go after any and all of his Political Opponents and citizens who deviate from their Ideology. And MoSports as a forum would definitely be under the eye of Hitler and those who disliked the Supreme leader would be on the Chopping block so to speak.


If Trump is the Hitler the Dems say he is then he would go after anyone on the Left he deems a Threat regardless of their Race.

All people on the conservative side would be fine regardless of their color or orientation.

It's sort of Odd you think Trump if he is Hitler is just gonna round up minorities and concentration camp them. . Wouldn't it be smarter to take the Wealth and Assets from his Wealthy Political Opponents first and foremost and most of those would be White Men!!



But in Truth Trump isn't Hitler and he has No plans to end democracy, steal wealth from his political opponents or put people in concentration camps that is just leftist lies.

This is a ideological war it has nothing to do with Race or orientation, this is about Capitalism, Constitutionalism vs Communism, Authoritarianism.
 
Watch and Seeing is all any of us can do. But I'm pretty confident if Trump is elected and JDV is VP the economy will get better and those who are not unhinged and full of hate will be

Wait what? I guess how you define a Dictator is Different than most because a true Hitler will go after any and all of his Political Opponents and citizens who deviate from their Ideology. And MoSports as a forum would definitely be under the eye of Hitler and those who disliked the Supreme leader would be on the Chopping block so to speak.


If Trump is the Hitler the Dems say he is then he would go after anyone on the Left he deems a Threat regardless of their Race.

All people on the conservative side would be fine regardless of their color or orientation.

It's sort of Odd you think Trump if he is Hitler is just gonna round up minorities and concentration camp them. . Wouldn't it be smarter to take the Wealth and Assets from his Wealthy Political Opponents first and foremost and most of those would be White Men!!



But in Truth Trump isn't Hitler and he has No plans to end democracy, steal wealth from his political opponents or put people in concentration camps that is just leftist lies.

This is a ideological war it has nothing to do with Race or orientation, this is about Capitalism, Constitutionalism vs Communism, Authoritarianism.
Why will the economy get better?
Please be specific.
 
Why will the economy get better?
Please be specific.
Simple he will gut Biden BS Green Sham, reduce corporate tax a bit . This will instill confidence in the Energy Sector and Manufacturing sector of our economy. This will also have effect on the Wall Street sector and investments will remain steady or possibly increase. But ultimately it will be the influx of cheaper energy and corporate confidence under Trump that will adjust consumer prices back down to match those price of goods and services before the increases under Bidenflation.
 
Homeowners know what climate change is doing to our homeowners insurance. That’s just the start. You want to make it worse.

It’s universally known that Trumps plans as stated will trigger more inflation. But keep spouting your nonsense.
 
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Simple he will gut Biden BS Green Sham, reduce corporate tax a bit . This will instill confidence in the Energy Sector and Manufacturing sector of our economy. This will also have effect on the Wall Street sector and investments will remain steady or possibly increase. But ultimately it will be the influx of cheaper energy and corporate confidence under Trump that will adjust consumer prices back down to match those price of goods and services before the increases under Bidenflation.
No.
 
Simple he will gut Biden BS Green Sham, reduce corporate tax a bit . This will instill confidence in the Energy Sector and Manufacturing sector of our economy. This will also have effect on the Wall Street sector and investments will remain steady or possibly increase. But ultimately it will be the influx of cheaper energy and corporate confidence under Trump that will adjust consumer prices back down to match those price of goods and services before the increases under Bidenflation.
Corporate taxes have not changed under Biden from Trump first cuts, So if you think that is the problem now should you not be blaming Trump?
All the Green Sham you call it has done is make Solar very affordable. Having it put on my house and with the tax incentives and such I probable will end up paying less than $8,000 and will basically no longer have an electric bill. Why would you hate on that?
 
Corporate taxes have not changed under Biden from Trump first cuts, So if you think that is the problem now should you not be blaming Trump?
All the Green Sham you call it has done is make Solar very affordable. Having it put on my house and with the tax incentives and such I probable will end up paying less than $8,000 and will basically no longer have an electric bill. Why would you hate on that?
he hates it because that's how his corporate masters have programmed him.
 
Corporate taxes have not changed under Biden from Trump first cuts, So if you think that is the problem now should you not be blaming Trump?
All the Green Sham you call it has done is make Solar very affordable. Having it put on my house and with the tax incentives and such I probable will end up paying less than $8,000 and will basically no longer have an electric bill. Why would you hate on that?
I believe there are tax cuts from Trumps Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that are set to expire in 2025. What is your stance on that? I believe Biden is not extending those. I posted a Twitter Thread from an Accountant on here awhile back. Not sure if you saw it or not.

I ask you because I feel you are one of the few that isn't hardcore right or left.

I will say one of my worst mistakes was I thought the Green Energy was really going to take off when Biden got elected and the oil would suffer so I sold the majority of my stock in oil companies. Boy was I ever wrong lol.
 
Corporate taxes have not changed under Biden from Trump first cuts, So if you think that is the problem now should you not be blaming Trump?
All the Green Sham you call it has done is make Solar very affordable. Having it put on my house and with the tax incentives and such I probable will end up paying less than $8,000 and will basically no longer have an electric bill. Why would you hate on that?
Because you should pay for it on your own Dime!! Not the taxpayers responsibility.
 
he hates it because that's how his corporate masters have programmed him.
No I hate the govt taking the people’s money and then giving it to corporations in the Form of tax incentives to drive up their profits. I have no issue with a low corporate tax rate off their margin, but to heap even more on insane.
 
No I hate the govt taking the people’s money and then giving it to corporations in the Form of tax incentives to drive up their profits. I have no issue with a low corporate tax rate off their margin, but to heap even more on insane.
No you're literally regurgitating what you're spoonfed by the 'new' GOP.
 
I believe there are tax cuts from Trumps Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that are set to expire in 2025. What is your stance on that? I believe Biden is not extending those. I posted a Twitter Thread from an Accountant on here awhile back. Not sure if you saw it or not.

I ask you because I feel you are one of the few that isn't hardcore right or left.

I will say one of my worst mistakes was I thought the Green Energy was really going to take off when Biden got elected and the oil would suffer so I sold the majority of my stock in oil companies. Boy was I ever wrong lol.
Weird how they set up the middle class tax cuts to expire but the rich and corporate tax cuts are permanent.

Funny ain't it.
 
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You didn’t answer my question…
Yeah it did but they're going away.

If I was top 1% my tax cuts would stay.

Why did your GOP set it up like that? They don't care one bit about you poor people. They just play you for your vote then let it all go away.

Wake up.
 
Yeah it did but they're going away.

If I was top 1% my tax cuts would stay.

Why did your GOP set it up like that? They don't care one bit about you poor people. They just play you for your vote then let it all go away.

Wake up.
Why didn't Biden extend it? Why didn't he put something in place to make it even better?

You just hate to admit that DJT and the GOP did something to benefit you because that would hurt your narrative.

You and Toots don't think that money controls the Dems, yet the only reason Biden is likely to drop out is donors are freezing funds.

Wake up.
 
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Why didn't Biden extend it? Why didn't he put something in place to make it even better?

You just hate to admit that DJT and the GOP did something to benefit you because that would hurt your narrative.

You and Toots don't think that money controls the Dems, yet the only reason Biden is likely to drop out is donors are freezing funds.

Wake up.
Your DJT and GOP gave permanent tax cuts to the rich but wrote the tax law to sunset tax cuts for you.

And you're ok with that.

You're in a cult.

Why are you ok with the middle class tax cuts going away but the rich not? Why do you answer questions with questions?
 
Your DJT and GOP gave permanent tax cuts to the rich but wrote the tax law to sunset tax cuts for you.

And you're ok with that.

You're in a cult.

Why are you ok with the middle class tax cuts going away but the rich not? Why do you answer questions with questions?
I never said I agreed with it. Just stated that he did something that helped everyone, but you are afraid to admit it.

I asked the question about Biden, because if he cares so much about the middle class then why didn't he do something to help them? Why didn't he extend the tax cuts on them?

Why is he going to drop out when donors freeze money, but the Dems aren't bought only Republicans. You think you know everything but wont admit your party is just like the GOP. They are both bought by rich donors. The only thing you do is complain about the GOP but never explain what good the Dems have done in the last 4 years.

I'm a conservative but I don't support Trump. Stated that many times. But I'm not afraid to admit when he did something to help the people. Toots has mentioned Biden dropping insulin. That's a good thing! I'm not afraid to admit if Biden or the Dems do something good. Unlike you I'm not blind to a party. I don't agree with everything the Republicans do.
 
I believe there are tax cuts from Trumps Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that are set to expire in 2025. What is your stance on that? I believe Biden is not extending those. I posted a Twitter Thread from an Accountant on here awhile back. Not sure if you saw it or not.

I ask you because I feel you are one of the few that isn't hardcore right or left.

I will say one of my worst mistakes was I thought the Green Energy was really going to take off when Biden got elected and the oil would suffer so I sold the majority of my stock in oil companies. Boy was I ever wrong lol.
I like targeted Tax cuts. Corporate Profits after taxes have been climbing for several years, right now they are at their highest ever! Yet many say they are suffering today including you, and that the economy is bad, but again corporate profits don't show that. And now the Pubs are running on giving them even more tax cuts and more profits, not sure will help because its not helping now. So I just don't know if that is the answer. I am not sure how to word this, but I believe in tax cuts, but I believe those tax cuts should be tied to the wages a corporation pays and even benefits they offer. If a corporation is paying a living wage and their employee's are not on food stamps or any other program that we the tax payers have to prop up I think they should get a break for doing that, if they are trying to bring jobs back to America they should get a break for that. There could be other positive incentives to cut taxes for them that would help and actually could help the economy.

Green energy has been slowed by the high interest rates. When I looked at solar in 2020 you could get almost Zero interest but honestly for me the tax benefit was not good. Now interest is 7% and the tax breaks are really good, but hard to pull that trigger on that interest rate.
 
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I like targeted Tax cuts. Corporate Profits after taxes have ben climbing for several years they are at their highest ever right now! Yet many say they are suffering including you and the economy is bad but again corporate profits don't show that. And now the Pubs are running on giving them even more tax cuts and more profit not sure will help because its not helping now. So I just don't know if that is the answer. I am not sure how to word this, but I believe in tax cuts, but I believe those tax cuts should be tied to the wages a corporation pays and even benefits they offer. If a corporation is paying a living wage and their employee's are not on food stamps or any other program that we the tax payers have to prop up I think they should get a break for doing that, if they are trying to bring jobs back to America they should get a break for that. Their could be other positive incentives to cut taxes for them that would help and actually could help the economy.

Green energy has been slowed by the high interest rates. When I looked at solar in 2020 you could get almost Zero interest but honestly for me the tax benefit was not good. Now interest is 7% and the tax breaks are really good, but hard to pull that trigger on that interest rate.
I agree with you on the tax cut for paying better wages or bringing jobs back to America.

One of the main reasons I think the economy looks "good" is people my age and generation spend money as fast as they get it in. I feel my parents and grandparents had a different mindset regarding how money is spent. My wife and I are getting ready to close on a new house and when speaking with my banker, he said the most common loans he is doing right now are cash out refinance which absolutely shocked me. But I think it goes back to people spending money like crazy, but at some point I think it will catch up to them. I could be wrong.
 
I never said I agreed with it. Just stated that he did something that helped everyone, but you are afraid to admit it.

I asked the question about Biden, because if he cares so much about the middle class then why didn't he do something to help them? Why didn't he extend the tax cuts on them?

Why is he going to drop out when donors freeze money, but the Dems aren't bought only Republicans. You think you know everything but wont admit your party is just like the GOP. They are both bought by rich donors. The only thing you do is complain about the GOP but never explain what good the Dems have done in the last 4 years.

I'm a conservative but I don't support Trump. Stated that many times. But I'm not afraid to admit when he did something to help the people. Toots has mentioned Biden dropping insulin. That's a good thing! I'm not afraid to admit if Biden or the Dems do something good. Unlike you I'm not blind to a party. I don't agree with everything the Republicans do.
I said it helped me.

Face the fact: GOP uses short term breaks for you little people to permanently enrich the 1%.

YOU are the problem.
 
I said it helped me.

Face the fact: GOP uses short term breaks for you little people to permanently enrich the 1%.

YOU are the problem.
What tax breaks have the Dems put in place for you? We have had a Democratic President for 12 of the last 16 years. I know Obama made a few taxable advantages for the Middle Class, but what has Biden done? Did taxes not go down under Bush and Biden? If the Dems were putting a candidate like Obama up for nomination, they would probably walk away with this. Instead they trot Jello Brain out there. Then he is will step down and they won't even let their party vote for who they want as the candidate, but they're all for "Democracy."

I'm not saying I agree with everything the Republican Party does, but there are more issues than just taxes. If the Dems didn't align themselves with some of the far left policies with this administration, then I think they would get more moderates to swing to them.
 
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