You make some good points bluff. Agreed on the issue of continuity. Not the whole secret, you mentioned a couple of exceptions. Although, at SE Iowa Joe O'B was there what 7, 8, or more, and before that Jim Wyatt must have been there 12 or 13? As far as Jay Spoon, hey you pay your money and take your choice. It might indeed be worth it for even 2 or 3 years. It would be a fun ride for however long. I guess if history could repeat with him what happened at Wabash Valley any school would be willing to do it. I didn't want to leave the impression I was totally against Jay, I am certainly not. I would be very excited if he were to get the job. Anyway, it should be an exciting next few weeks in Region 16.