Question on districts.
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Should be 1,2 5,6 and 3,4 7,8 like it was 3 years ago. Your scenario was two years ago according to MSHSAA brackets.
And what date with class assignments be announced. Is the announcement date for district assignments the same?
Yeah, it was according to Coach Claas 'a Junior league' last year. My early guess is Clark County takes it, but there are several in the mix.
Surprised no one on this forum has predicted football class breakdowns. Should be released after jamborees. New teams like Bayless (I think) and Doniphan (for sure) among others should make for some small changes. Very curious to see breakdowns of each class and district.
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The amount of time, effort, math involves in doing that isn't worth it.
Besides, they're always wrong, or at least slightly off because teams will add or drop football, and unless all the information is available there's really no point in devoting multiple hours to trying to figure it out.
This. Used to do this every cycle, now its too complicated.
So if both Liberty schools moved up, then who do you think moved down?
Is there a cascade of others moving up from class 4 into 5?
If so: Platte County into 5? Webb City into 5?
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Is there a cascade of others moving up from class 4 into 5?
If so: Platte County into 5? Webb City into 5?
There were 44 teams in Class 5 last cycle and 7 teams dropped mid-cycle. If there is no net change from that point, there would be just 37 teams in Class 5. I'm guessing the actual number is about 40 teams. Joplin will obviously be Class 6. Ozark should be the 2nd smallest Class 6 school just one student ahead of Lee's Summit (nondirectional). Nixa should be the largest Class 5 school and will likely be Class 6 the following year. Note that Nixa and Ozark could end up in either Class 5 or Class 6 if MSHSAA's enrollment numbers that they have posted are not finalized. Carthage is solidly Class 5 as the 4th largest COC school. Republic and Branson most likely will remain in Class 5 barring a large drop in the number of teams fielding football teams. Neosho could easily end up in Class 4 or Class 5, but is slightly more likely to end up in Class 4 even with the Neosho Christian co-op. Willard could remain in Class 5 or move down to Class 4 as well. Webb City and Carl Junction are solidly Class 4 again. Bolivar will remain in Class 4 barring a large decrease in the number of football teams in which case they could drop to Class 3.
Prediction:
COC Large (1000+ enrollment)
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Joplin - 6
Ozark - 6
Nixa - 5
Carthage - 5
Republic - 5
Branson - 5
Willard - 4
COC Small (Enrollment < 1000)
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Neosho/Neosho Christian - 4
Webb City - 4
Carl Junction - 4
Bolivar - 4
Note also from schedules that Bolivar has effectively been booted from the Conference despite not voting to exit the conference of their own volition and the remaining 10 schools are effectively playing for a combined COC Title.
Prediction:
COC Large (1000+ enrollment)
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Joplin - 6
Ozark - 6
Nixa - 5
Carthage - 5
Republic - 5
Branson - 5
Willard - 4
COC Small (Enrollment < 1000)
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Neosho/Neosho Christian - 4
Webb City - 4
Carl Junction - 4
Bolivar - 4
Note also from schedules that Bolivar has effectively been booted from the Conference despite not voting to exit the conference of their own volition and the remaining 10 schools are effectively playing for a combined COC Title.
Here's a look at Class 5 on one extreme with just 33 teams. Note that Columbia probably goes east this time and Carthage likely gets gerrymandered into a Kansas City district due to the absence of Neosho and Willard.
Here's a look at Class 5 on one extreme with just 33 teams. Note that Columbia probably goes east this time and Carthage likely gets gerrymandered into a Kansas City district due to the absence of Neosho and Willard.
It’s starting to sound like we just need to go back to 5 classes.
Anyone have the time to put together a five class breakdown using last years numbers? That would be cook to see.
Here's a look at Class 5 on one extreme with just 33 teams. Note that Columbia probably goes east this time and Carthage likely gets gerrymandered into a Kansas City district due to the absence of Neosho and Willard.
Missing Grain Valley and Platte County...both will be Class 5.
There would have to be 45 teams for Grain Valley to end up in Class 5 and 56 for Platte County. This would be a net increase of +8 and +19 teams respectively over the end of last cycle. Grain Valley making the jump is plausible, but there's no way that Platte County moves up.
Curious as to why you would reference COC Large and COC Small and put teams such as Webb and CJ and Neosho under "Small"? None have ever been in the COC Small, which was an actual conference division or label as recently as last year.
You forgot they are only counting 9-11 now. Also, you have to account for the massive increase over the census from the last cycle, which has now been several years. Those two factors make their jump very possible.
I checked their number 9 to 11 on the DE data...and Platte County 9-11 is like 20 kids behind Webb...exactly the same as Kearney.
With the new enrollment counting only 9th-11th grades, Neosho, Webb City and Carl Junction will all see their adjusted enrollment total drop below 1000 students. It is my understanding that the cutoff for the Large Division is 1000+ enrollment. This is why Carl Junction was in the COC Large last cycle even though it would have made more sense for them to be placed in the Small Division so that you would have an even 8 teams in each division.
That line of demarcation never existed. The COC was always two distinctively different conferences. It was never one conference divided by enrollment. Carl Junction applied and was accepted by the Large because they wanted to play with he big boys. Bolivar choose to remain in the small for years because they liked beating up on smaller schools.
I'm using outdated numbers. I'll put it this way, Grain Valley was already bigger than Kearney and will be Class 5. Platte County will be bigger than Kearney...but possibly under the Class 5 threshold.
Also keep in mind that with all the realignment COC Small no longer exists.
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