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bullitpdq68 said:
I don't think anybody on here hates Trinity or the kids or there racial makeup, jealous of the talent they assembled and the rules by which they were able to assemble this super small class team....yeah maybe. I just think what you believe to be racial hate is just incorrect, I hope Trinity is providing good for all kids in the inner city, I would be interested to see if they are providing as much financial aid to those who just want a better education versus those who play sports? That would be an interesting stat to see to back up what you are saying about Trinity providing an opportunity for all inner city kids, not just those who excel in sports?

If you have been on this board for any amount of time you would also know that this debate has been going on for years. And that it has mainly centered around small class private schools, for years Valle took the brunt of this, so it is nothing new, and I don't know their racial makeup but nobody from there has ever played the race card when trying to defend themselves, so I can pretty much assure you this is not about race.

This is about small class private schools being able to assemble more talent than a small public school could ever playing by the same set of rules that both have to abide by. So that clearly creates an unfair advantage especially in the small classifications such as class 1,2 or 3. I truly believe that if Trinity was a class 5 or 6 school that they would not be discussed on here much if at all, probable like CBC. But the fact that they were a class 2 and now class 3 school was able to assemble more D-1 talent than CBC a class 6 school only shows that small class rural schools and big city private schools are playing by different set of rules when assembling teams. And you are on the record as bragging about that. So this has truly created a very large talent gap between small class public schools Class 1, 2 and 3 and private schools and brought to the forefront the difference in which a small class private school can assemble a team versus a small rural public school can.

Trinity was able to hand pick their athletes from a town of over 1 million people versus small rural schools have to assemble theirs from the kids who reside within the district boundaries which usually has a population of just in the thousands. Big big difference especially in small classifications schools.
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Major League baseball has the "Lifes not fair League", its called Triple A.
 
bullitpdq68 said:
I don't think anybody on here hates Trinity or the kids or there racial makeup, jealous of the talent they assembled and the rules by which they were able to assemble this super small class team....yeah maybe. I just think what you believe to be racial hate is just incorrect, I hope Trinity is providing good for all kids in the inner city, I would be interested to see if they are providing as much financial aid to those who just want a better education versus those who play sports? That would be an interesting stat to see to back up what you are saying about Trinity providing an opportunity for all inner city kids, not just those who excel in sports?

If you have been on this board for any amount of time you would also know that this debate has been going on for years. And that it has mainly centered around small class private schools, for years Valle took the brunt of this, so it is nothing new, and I don't know their racial makeup but nobody from there has ever played the race card when trying to defend themselves, so I can pretty much assure you this is not about race.

This is about small class private schools being able to assemble more talent than a small public school could ever playing by the same set of rules that both have to abide by. So that clearly creates an unfair advantage especially in the small classifications such as class 1,2 or 3. I truly believe that if Trinity was a class 5 or 6 school that they would not be discussed on here much if at all, probable like CBC. But the fact that they were a class 2 and now class 3 school was able to assemble more D-1 talent than CBC a class 6 school only shows that small class rural schools and big city private schools are playing by different set of rules when assembling teams. And you are on the record as bragging about that. So this has truly created a very large talent gap between small class public schools Class 1, 2 and 3 and private schools and brought to the forefront the difference in which a small class private school can assemble a team versus a small rural public school can.

Trinity was able to hand pick their athletes from a town of over 1 million people versus small rural schools have to assemble theirs from the kids who reside within the district boundaries which usually has a population of just in the thousands. Big big difference especially in small classifications schools.
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But in the “Its not just MoSports” post its a guy in there talking about “I bet Trinity kids get bad grades” “whats their ACT scores?” And then even the guy who made this post is claiming that the Trinity kids are from bad backgrounds (he’s literally saying that without any knowledge) this is the most positive thing to ever happen to them????? Like WHAT?!?!?!??!??!? The trash Racial undertones are everywhere in Mo Sports. Even worse maybe you can say that about Cardinal Ritters location, Trinity is a nice area of North County lol like these guys are speaking from pure ignorance
 
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MORock said:
As many on this board know, I am a Rockhurst guy and a supporter of private schools. I've been lurking with interest in the recent threads primarily about Trinity and Ritter; two schools about which I know little. What I do know is that both schools primarily serve African American communities that are being poorly served by their local public schools.

Unfortunately today, the reality of high school sports is that schools with money, or primarily affluent populations (like a Rockhurst for example) will have an advantage. No different than say Staley (as opposed to say Winnetonka). Parents with money provide opportunities for specialized training, better nutrition, ability to not "have to work" and instead focus on school/sports, and a safe place to sleep at night. It seems to me that schools like Trinity and Ritter are providing at least an opportunity for a better education in a less distracting, and likely safer environment. So what if many of these kids aren't Roman Catholic. The mission of these schools should be to help the disadvantaged - regardless of religion. My bible shows Jesus reaching out to all people - not just his own. For many of the kids that just won state at Trinity I am betting that the experience is one of the more positive ones that they have had in their lives to this point. Good for them, and shame on those who would deny their celebration. Why should these kids be stuck in an environment where they would never have an opportunity for that success. Let's also remember that not every kid at Trinity is an athlete, many are there because it is safe, and just better than their neighborhood option. I hope the opportunity that they receive is a great step towards long-term success in life - which is what builds better communities.

As for my school (Rockhurst), and recruiting. I find it interesting that it is not unusual for those that want to cast aspersions (you know who you are), generally point to athletes who happen to be African American. Why is that? Do you make the assumption that just because a kid is African American that they don't have the academic ability, or that they don't have parents willing to make the sacrifice to send their boys to school at a place where the opportunity for academic and athletic success might be greater? Would you be surprised that these young men end up at places like West Point, or the University of Chicago? Just like our broader student population, some of these boys have two parents, some have one. Some come from money, some don't, and some come from Catholic grade schools, some don't. At Rockhurst we attract boys from throughout the city - unapologetically. You might be surprised to know however that transfers in after Freshman year are rare, and unless it is from a relocation I am not sure it is allowed after Sophomore year. Generally a class starts with about 280 and graduates about 250, so we go the other direction. Do boys come to Rockhurst because they want to be part of the football tradition - no doubt. Just as kids come there for the academic reputation. There are boys with financial means, and ones without. I am aware of young men (who are not athletes - but receive aid) who leave their house(s) every morning at 5:30 AM to catch the multiple buses that get them to school. The mission of our school is to educate and develop the full person, and this means developing talents outside of academic pursuits - including athletics. I think this is also (or should be) the mission of public schools. Unfortunately, while well intentioned many public schools - especially in less affluent communities don't have the resources to provide comparable opportunities. BTW, Over 40% of our boys receive some form of aid - athletes and non, Black, White, Hispanic, and Asian. The aid comes from fundraising (Annual Giving, Major Donors, Endowed Scholarships, and various fundraising events) which provides somewhere in the neighborhood of $2-3 million per year.

My appeal; let's check the veiled racism at the door. Let's look at the real issue which isn't public/private, but those schools with money (or located in affluent areas) and those without. Break the classes down by socio-economics (and community support) and you might have a the first fair classification for sports in MSHSAA history.
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I think what insults people is the puerile nature of the talent grab by these OTHER schools (not Rock--Freshman recruiting) but bringing in Juniors or Seniors like its some of kind of **cked up youth league all-star team. There is no integrity in bringing in junior and senior ringers, then pumping your chest because you were able to do that. And what a hot load to think they have been helped academically. Bringing in ringers after their sophomore year is nothing but making an AAU All-star team. And MSHSAA should put an end to it.
 
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BPcompete said:
But in the “Its not just MoSports” post its a guy in there talking about “I bet Trinity kids get bad grades” “whats their ACT scores?” And then even the guy who made this post is claiming that the Trinity kids are from bad backgrounds (he’s literally saying that without any knowledge) this is the most positive thing to ever happen to them????? Like WHAT?!?!?!??!??!? The trash Racial undertones are everywhere in Mo Sports. Even worse maybe you can say that about Cardinal Ritters location, Trinity is a nice area of North County lol like these guys are speaking from pure ignorance
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I cannot speak for anybody else on this board, but for me honestly I could not tell you the racial makeup of the team, I have not seen any pictures of the team or kids well the QB flipping off the crowd I did see that one. All I can tell you is that most of the people I know and talk with discuss a lot of what I have seen discussed on this board over the years. And usually it has more to do with what I mentioned in the other post. I don't blame parents for trying to give their kids better opportunities even if going thru private schools. I just don't think it is fair in all cases to be able to assemble all that talent as a small class school. Again no small class public school will ever be able to compete on that same level. Yes Lamar beat these kids when they were sophomores, but they were clearly out coached you could see these kids had some really raw talent and would only get better.

Also I don't think out of state kids should be competing for Missouri sports titles. It just takes away from our kids. Now I have nothing against them wanting to better their education thru private schools in Missouri, but I don't think they should be allowed to compete be it in academic bowls or sports.
 
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BPcompete said:
But in the “It's not just MoSports” post its a guy in there talking about “I bet Trinity kids get bad grades” “whats their ACT scores?” And then even the guy who made this post is claiming that the Trinity kids are from bad backgrounds (he’s literally saying that without any knowledge) this is the most positive thing to ever happen to them????? Like WHAT?!?!?!??!??!? The trash Racial undertones are everywhere in Mo Sports. Even worse maybe you can say that about Cardinal Ritters location, Trinity is a nice area of North County lol like these guys are speaking from pure ignorance
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Maybe. Here's a thought. Student-Athletes that can make it in rigorous classrooms already possess intelligence, or enough intelligence to compete with nonathletes or in this case football players. Or in this case remain eligible. Do these kids get developed in a quality environment or don't they? That's the question that needs to be asked. I think the answer is yes. Nothing is stopping rural kids from joining Trinity if it's this important. We are free to choose.

Let's not pretend that ACT scores are not an intelligence test. It's the best way we have of predicting success in college. Whether you can run fast or not has never been the sole determining factor unless your Lebron.

Trinity Catholic and other private and exceptional public schools do well because of many other variables that have already been pointed out.

Pointing out racial undertones on the MO Sports board is not the least bit helpful or appropriate.
 
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Maybe. Here's a thought. Student-Athletes that can make it in rigorous classrooms already possess intelligence, or enough intelligence to compete with nonathletes or in this case football players. Or in this case remain eligible. Do these kids get developed in a quality environment or don't they? That's the question that needs to be asked. I think the answer is yes. Nothing is stopping rural kids from joining Trinity if its this important. We are free to choose.

Let's not pretend that ACT scores are not an intelligence test. It's the best way we have of predicting success in college. Whether you can run fast or not has never been the determining factor unless your Lebron.

Trinity Catholic and other private and exceptional public schools do well because of many other variables that have already been pointed out.

Pointing out racial undertones on the MO Sports board is not the least bit helpful or appropriate.
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All of the guys Im not referring to are offended by the racial post. MOST of you this isnt the case. Im just pointing out specific instances that made me cringe. The ones I referenced have clear prejudices. I wouldnt expect you guys to even pick it up. But saying and assuming that winning the stste championship is the first and only positive thing that has happened in a Trinity’s players life is disgusting.
 
RawMeat said:
It doesn’t.
Quit playing the role of the victim. It’s more self-demeaning than it is productive.

And I focused on YOU because YOU‘RE the one that has brought it up at least three times. It’s old...and disgusting. Just because you fly the flag doesn’t make it real. Grow up and quit being a pussy.
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MORock said:
As many on this board know, I am a Rockhurst guy and a supporter of private schools. I've been lurking with interest in the recent threads primarily about Trinity and Ritter; two schools about which I know little. What I do know is that both schools primarily serve African American communities that are being poorly served by their local public schools.

Unfortunately today, the reality of high school sports is that schools with money, or primarily affluent populations (like a Rockhurst for example) will have an advantage. No different than say Staley (as opposed to say Winnetonka). Parents with money provide opportunities for specialized training, better nutrition, ability to not "have to work" and instead focus on school/sports, and a safe place to sleep at night. It seems to me that schools like Trinity and Ritter are providing at least an opportunity for a better education in a less distracting, and likely safer environment. So what if many of these kids aren't Roman Catholic. The mission of these schools should be to help the disadvantaged - regardless of religion. My bible shows Jesus reaching out to all people - not just his own. For many of the kids that just won state at Trinity I am betting that the experience is one of the more positive ones that they have had in their lives to this point. Good for them, and shame on those who would deny their celebration. Why should these kids be stuck in an environment where they would never have an opportunity for that success. Let's also remember that not every kid at Trinity is an athlete, many are there because it is safe, and just better than their neighborhood option. I hope the opportunity that they receive is a great step towards long-term success in life - which is what builds better communities.

As for my school (Rockhurst), and recruiting. I find it interesting that it is not unusual for those that want to cast aspersions (you know who you are), generally point to athletes who happen to be African American. Why is that? Do you make the assumption that just because a kid is African American that they don't have the academic ability, or that they don't have parents willing to make the sacrifice to send their boys to school at a place where the opportunity for academic and athletic success might be greater? Would you be surprised that these young men end up at places like West Point, or the University of Chicago? Just like our broader student population, some of these boys have two parents, some have one. Some come from money, some don't, and some come from Catholic grade schools, some don't. At Rockhurst we attract boys from throughout the city - unapologetically. You might be surprised to know however that transfers in after Freshman year are rare, and unless it is from a relocation I am not sure it is allowed after Sophomore year. Generally a class starts with about 280 and graduates about 250, so we go the other direction. Do boys come to Rockhurst because they want to be part of the football tradition - no doubt. Just as kids come there for the academic reputation. There are boys with financial means, and ones without. I am aware of young men (who are not athletes - but receive aid) who leave their house(s) every morning at 5:30 AM to catch the multiple buses that get them to school. The mission of our school is to educate and develop the full person, and this means developing talents outside of academic pursuits - including athletics. I think this is also (or should be) the mission of public schools. Unfortunately, while well intentioned many public schools - especially in less affluent communities don't have the resources to provide comparable opportunities. BTW, Over 40% of our boys receive some form of aid - athletes and non, Black, White, Hispanic, and Asian. The aid comes from fundraising (Annual Giving, Major Donors, Endowed Scholarships, and various fundraising events) which provides somewhere in the neighborhood of $2-3 million per year.

My appeal; let's check the veiled racism at the door. Let's look at the real issue which isn't public/private, but those schools with money (or located in affluent areas) and those without. Break the classes down by socio-economics (and community support) and you might have a the first fair classification for sports in MSHSAA history.
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I copied the post by the OP (a Rockhurst guy) for this thread. The poster went into detail for 3 paragraphs SPECIFICALLY detailing his views on the racial components. You haven’t had SHIT to say to him about it and you definitely didn’t get emotional like you did when I responded to another guy that DID address the OP.

The fact is that MORock must’ve hit pretty close to the mark with his OP with you, but you’re too much of a pussy to read a post that mentions the pretty obvious racial component ... so you lose your shit. You’re also too much of a pussy to address the guy that actually started the thread, or the 4 guys that agreed with it. Nope, you’re here acting fake insulted because you’re outraged that I’m a Trinity fan that co-signed on the issue.

Idk, maybe you need to deal with your issues outside of a message board. People that DON’T rob banks don’t get furious when other people talk about bank robbers.
 
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BPcompete said:
All of the guys Im not referring to are offended by the racial post. MOST of you this isnt the case. Im just pointing out specific instances that made me cringe. The ones I referenced have clear prejudices. I wouldnt expect you guys to even pick it up. But saying and assuming that winning the stste championship is the first and only positive thing that has happened in a Trinity’s players life is disgusting.
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The fact that Trinity will accept students regardless of skin color makes your outrage troublesome in your mind, not mine.
 
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MORock said:
As many on this board know, I am a Rockhurst guy and a supporter of private schools. I've been lurking with interest in the recent threads primarily about Trinity and Ritter; two schools about which I know little. What I do know is that both schools primarily serve African American communities that are being poorly served by their local public schools.

Unfortunately today, the reality of high school sports is that schools with money, or primarily affluent populations (like a Rockhurst for example) will have an advantage. No different than say Staley (as opposed to say Winnetonka). Parents with money provide opportunities for specialized training, better nutrition, ability to not "have to work" and instead focus on school/sports, and a safe place to sleep at night. It seems to me that schools like Trinity and Ritter are providing at least an opportunity for a better education in a less distracting, and likely safer environment. So what if many of these kids aren't Roman Catholic. The mission of these schools should be to help the disadvantaged - regardless of religion. My bible shows Jesus reaching out to all people - not just his own. For many of the kids that just won state at Trinity I am betting that the experience is one of the more positive ones that they have had in their lives to this point. Good for them, and shame on those who would deny their celebration. Why should these kids be stuck in an environment where they would never have an opportunity for that success. Let's also remember that not every kid at Trinity is an athlete, many are there because it is safe, and just better than their neighborhood option. I hope the opportunity that they receive is a great step towards long-term success in life - which is what builds better communities.

As for my school (Rockhurst), and recruiting. I find it interesting that it is not unusual for those that want to cast aspersions (you know who you are), generally point to athletes who happen to be African American. Why is that? Do you make the assumption that just because a kid is African American that they don't have the academic ability, or that they don't have parents willing to make the sacrifice to send their boys to school at a place where the opportunity for academic and athletic success might be greater? Would you be surprised that these young men end up at places like West Point, or the University of Chicago? Just like our broader student population, some of these boys have two parents, some have one. Some come from money, some don't, and some come from Catholic grade schools, some don't. At Rockhurst we attract boys from throughout the city - unapologetically. You might be surprised to know however that transfers in after Freshman year are rare, and unless it is from a relocation I am not sure it is allowed after Sophomore year. Generally a class starts with about 280 and graduates about 250, so we go the other direction. Do boys come to Rockhurst because they want to be part of the football tradition - no doubt. Just as kids come there for the academic reputation. There are boys with financial means, and ones without. I am aware of young men (who are not athletes - but receive aid) who leave their house(s) every morning at 5:30 AM to catch the multiple buses that get them to school. The mission of our school is to educate and develop the full person, and this means developing talents outside of academic pursuits - including athletics. I think this is also (or should be) the mission of public schools. Unfortunately, while well intentioned many public schools - especially in less affluent communities don't have the resources to provide comparable opportunities. BTW, Over 40% of our boys receive some form of aid - athletes and non, Black, White, Hispanic, and Asian. The aid comes from fundraising (Annual Giving, Major Donors, Endowed Scholarships, and various fundraising events) which provides somewhere in the neighborhood of $2-3 million per year.

My appeal; let's check the veiled racism at the door. Let's look at the real issue which isn't public/private, but those schools with money (or located in affluent areas) and those without. Break the classes down by socio-economics (and community support) and you might have a the first fair classification for sports in MSHSAA history.
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Trinity added 19 new players to their roster from the previous year (excluding Frosh.) 9 new upper classmen (Juniors and Seniors) So tiny little Trinity does this. How many does big Rock add? Wow...what would happen for Lathrop and Lamar if they could add 9 new football upperclassmen to their rosters?
 
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FistOH said:
Pointing out racial undertones on the MO Sports board is not the least bit helpful or appropriate.
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It’s obvious A LOT of posters on this thread have a serious aversion to the mere DISCUSSION of anything race-related in their reactions to Trinity. What’s really telling is that (outside of the original poster) the responses have been to either rage TF out, remain completely silent on the subject, claim you’re entirely unaware that Trinity’s team is almost entirely black (while the student body is almost 50/50), or say mentioning the elephant in the room isn’t helpful or appropriate.
 
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RawMeat said:
No , Captain SJW, you’re the one who’s been wanting to cry racism over and over. Go squat in your litterbox.
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When you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the only one that yelps is the one that gets hit. MORock nailed you pretty good, obviously. You wouldn’t be up in your feelings like this if you didn’t feel exposed. Can’t say I’m surprised.
 
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It’s obvious A LOT of posters on this thread have a serious aversion to the mere DISCUSSION of anything race-related in their reactions to Trinity. What’s really telling is that (outside of the original poster) the responses have been to either rage TF out, remain completely silent on the subject, claim you’re entirely unaware that Trinity’s team is almost entirely black (while the student body is almost 50/50), or say mentioning the elephant in the room isn’t helpful or appropriate.
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I'm not willing to discuss race with a poster that's an avatar of a learned ideology.

It's predictable, simple and repeated over and over with complete lack of original thought.

I can learn it in half a day at my local community college in any class under the umbrella of the Humanities department.

I can dispense its inaccuracy in 5 minutes.

Or in other words, it's a waste of time.

It's not the least bit helpful or even remotely appropriate.
 
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Buddy, truth be told, I didn’t even read his post.
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I stopped reading his post when he implied Trinity players come from essential homelessness with no positive influence nor anything to look forward to in life. I like his “attempt” to be on our side but the generalization stuff for me is worse.
 
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It’s obvious A LOT of posters on this thread have a serious aversion to the mere DISCUSSION of anything race-related in their reactions to Trinity. What’s really telling is that (outside of the original poster) the responses have been to either rage TF out, remain completely silent on the subject, claim you’re entirely unaware that Trinity’s team is almost entirely black (while the student body is almost 50/50), or say mentioning the elephant in the room isn’t helpful or appropriate.
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You do understand that MoRock has been on this board....well since 2001, most of us over the years have engaged with him or CEOmateral enough times over this private versus public debate that it got old. These two use to be on here bragging all the time about the ROCK and defending their record and recruits. Well then for some reason Rock decided to play a two game home and away with Webb City and guess what happened. Rock got the crap beat out of them twice. It was nice to see actually, a little old rural class 4 Webb humbly smack down the mighty Rock, and guess what after that MoRock and CEO pretty much disappeared and really nobody has seen much of them since those @$$ beatings.

Well fast forward to now and the public versus private debate is in full swing again and one of them decides to join in not even having a clue as to what is going on...we have been down this road with him before, he might never post again. But hey he was able to brag about the Rock while playing the Race card.
 
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bullitpdq68 said:
You do understand that MoRock has been on this board....well since 2001, most of us over the years have engaged with him or CEOmateral enough times over this private versus public debate that it got old. These two use to be on here bragging all the time about the ROCK and defending their record and recruits. Well then for some reason Rock decided to play a two game home and away with Webb City and guess what happened. Rock got the crap beat out of them twice. It was nice to see actually, a little old rural class 4 Webb humbly smack down the mighty Rock, and guess what after that MoRock and CEO pretty much disappeared and really nobody has seen much of them since those @$$ beatings.

Well fast forward to now and the public versus private debate is in full swing again and one of them decides to join in not even having a clue as to what is going on...we have been down this road with him before, he might never post again. But hey he was able to brag about the Rock while playing the Race card.
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Well, whatever his motives were, he definitely knew you guys well enough to know that specifically mentioning race as a reason y’all hate on Trinity so heavily would cause collective heads to explode.

You aren’t surprised at the reactions and, frankly, I’m not either.
 
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I'm not willing to discuss race with a poster that's an avatar of a learned ideology.

It's predictable, simple and repeated over and over with complete lack of original thought.

I can learn it in half a day at my local community college in any class under the umbrella of the Humanities department.

I can dispense it's inaccuracy in 5 minutes.

Or in other words it's a waste of time.

It's not the least bit helpful or even remotely appropriate.
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FBisLife12 said:
Well, whatever his motives were, he definitely knew you guys well enough to know that specifically mentioning race as a reason y’all hate on Trinity so heavily would cause collective heads to explode.

You aren’t surprised at the reactions and, frankly, I’m not either.
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I am not surprised because it is the card that private school supporters love to play so they can keep the status quo. Truth be known you guys like being able to exploit the rules and have the upper hand so you can brag about beating the crap out of small class schools who could never compete, because they just don't have access to the same level of talent as Trinity does.

How good would Trinity be if they were located in a rural county in Missouri and could only recruit from that limited talent pool Versus now being in St Louis, were they can recruit from over 2.8 million kids, yet limit their total enrollment so they, or specifically "you" can come on here and brag about beating the crap out tiny rural schools that don't have access to same level of talent as Trinity. Does that make you feel like a big man....
 
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FBisLife12 said:
Well, whatever his motives were, he definitely knew you guys well enough to know that specifically mentioning race as a reason y’all hate on Trinity so heavily would cause collective heads to explode.

You aren’t surprised at the reactions and, frankly, I’m not either.
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FBisLife12 said:
Well, whatever his motives were, he definitely knew you guys well enough to know that specifically mentioning race as a reason y’all hate on Trinity so heavily would cause collective heads to explode.

You aren’t surprised at the reactions and, frankly, I’m not either.
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9 new upper classmen (Juniors and Seniors)
10 new Sophs added (more understandable)

But come on, this is a Chicago-style Pop Warner ringer team. Any kids related to Danny Almonte?
 
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FBisLife12 said:
Well, whatever his motives were, he definitely knew you guys well enough to know that specifically mentioning race as a reason y’all hate on Trinity so heavily would cause collective heads to explode.

You aren’t surprised at the reactions and, frankly, I’m not either.
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The question is then, why is it OK for you or Rock to conflate race equality or educational services with a group of boys making up a football team?
Are you black? Does that make it OK?
 
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I am not surprised because it is the card that private school supporters love to play so they can keep the status quo. Truth be known you guys like being able to exploit the rules and have the upper hand so you can brag about beating the crap out of small class schools who could never compete, because they just don't have access to the same level of talent as Trinity does.

How good would Trinity be if they were located in a rural county in Missouri and could only recruit from that limited talent pool Versus now being in St Louis, were they can recruit from over 2.8 million kids, yet limit their total enrollment so they, or specifically "you" can come on here and brag about beating the crap out tiny rural schools that don't have even close to same level of talent. Does that make you feel like a big man....
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The rules are the rules. Don’t like them? Want to change them? Then get your AD to vote with the overwhelming majority of schools that are public, and change them. I understand that it’s more fun to bitch about Trinity winning one state championship than it is to actually do something real. It’s entertaining to see fans whose teams lost to private schools that aren’t even Class 3 be more outraged by Trinity than they are about the private schools in their OWN classifications with multiple championships.

It’s hilarious that you put the responsibility of changing rules that YOU don’t like on the private schools that enjoy the advantage and don’t have an issue with the rules. I enjoy watching you guys.
 
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FBisLife12 said:
The rules are the rules. Don’t like them? Want to change them? Then get your AD to vote with the overwhelming majority of schools that are public, and change them. I understand that it’s more fun to bitch about Trinity winning one state championship than it is to actually do something real. It’s entertaining to see fans whose teams lost to private schools that aren’t even Class 3 be more outraged by Trinity than they are about the private schools in their OWN classifications with multiple championships.

It’s hilarious that you put the responsibility of changing rules that YOU don’t like on the private schools that enjoy the advantage and don’t have an issue with the rules. I enjoy watching you guys.
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Is this the best you can come up with when losing a debate.....twist others words to fit your narrative.

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Is this the best you can come up with when losing a debate.....twist others words to fit your narrative.

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This isn’t a debate. It’s a bunch of anonymous country folks bitching about Trinity Catholic. I don’t want you to change your minds. I don’t want you to like the rules, or Trinity, or private schools, OR St. Louis.

I enjoy watching you bitch and cry and complain. I enjoy the veiled racist shit some of you guys post, and how RawMeat loses his mind because race gets mentioned.

I like the rules. I wouldn’t be hurt if they changed, but I’m here to enjoy watching you guys scream into pillows. I’d be surprised if ANY of you actually take your issues to a coach or AD about voting for a rule change. You enjoy bitching even more than I enjoy watching you do it.
 
Eagles_Ball said:
Holler at me when a public school can give a kid a scholarship to a kid to attend their school that doesn't live within their district lines. Until then, no, they don't follow the same rules.
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County schools bussed kids that lived in St. Louis City out to the suburbs for 30 years as part of the Voluntary Desegregation Program. It’s already been happening. Kids don’t get scholarships, but there are plenty of kids enrolled in public suburban schools that live outside of the districts today.

I’m guessing you didn’t know that.
 
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