Private Schools Don't Recruit...
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Notice how it doesnt say missouri students only
They want those kids to come back who started going to Miege. LolNotice how it doesnt say missouri students only
I thought it was interesting that football was the first and most visible component of the ad.
Seriously, what would happen if Webb City started running ads saying "Move here and play with champions in our successful and tradition rich football program!"
Seriously, what would happen if Webb City started running ads saying "Move here and play with champions in our successful and tradition rich football program!"
Roderique would be in jail and locals would be throwing molotov cocktails at their field ....all hell would break loose ...he would lose all credibility ....towns would picket and loot .... national guard would be called in for protection of the town ....however a post like that in a private school is just called "Tuesday"
Precisely. Everyone knows that no parent in their right mind would ever choose to send their kid to Webb City to be a part of their stellar tradition of championship football. I’m sure it’s pure chance, coincidence and magical water that makes them so dominant. It couldn’t POSSIBLY be in part because so many talented kids want to play for Webb City.
Parents selling their house and moving into the district happens some . No doubt . Difference is they aren't recruited . People willingly moving to Webb happens a bit but they have to make major financial decisions to do so because you ACTUALLY have to live in the district and even then you MAY not be eligible to play the next year...but if I live in Livonia Michigan ....I can still go to CBC if I have my private jet to get me there daily etc
It’s sweet that you’re convinced of the purity of public school football. All you have to do to be able to attend a public school is reside within their district. Homeownership isn’t required. The easiest way to obtain an eligibility exception is by moving into a public school’s district.
The private jet joke was creative, though.
Let's say player (a) moves from Joplin to Webb as a sophomore (parents relocate and everything) however Joplin school says they moved for athletic reasons ....boom ..player (a) is ineligible as a junior even though he lives in Webb City. This is a reality for Webb's #3 rb . He had to sit out last year for no real reason however if he decided to play for say micds ...no big deal and they would cover his "tuition"
The same can happen to a private school, Valle had a kid transfer from SG public but had to sit a yr because SG wouldn't release him several yrs ago
I don't buy if but even so ...ever seen a Facebook post for SG trying to get players ? Off topic some but I'm a big fan of the Neosho Holliday classic basketball tournament. A few years ago they had a team from Bel Aire Kansas (witchita) they were a 1 a school with 11 d-1 players ....most being international players ...buddy Heild was on that team ......is that fair ? Did they have to sit out from moving from Lithonia? Did Ladue guys sit out from moving from Nigeria? Nothing to see there but a kid moves 5 miles and road blocks left and right . Seems like an equal playing field
Wow! Are you jealous or bitter? Name the kids on Webb City's team that are from SWMO or SEK that didn't move here before 7th grade. I'll wait...…..
EVERY kid that transfers is automatically deemed ineligible by MSHSAA. The parents can request immediately eligibility and if the originating school challenges it, then initial eligibility is denied by MSHSAA.
This is the part you should pay attention to. The parents can request a hearing with MSHSAA’s Appeals Committee after the first day of the school year. The parent or representative much present their case in person and that’s where all of the family’s documents are presented. If ANY of at least 10 criteria are met (like moving into another district) then eligibility is granted. Tuition being covered at a private school has nothing to do with MSHSAA and eligibility.
Nope. Not jealous OR bitter. I’m just not naive enough to try and convince myself that if I lived in SWMO and I wanted my kid to play for one of the most dominant FB programs in the state that I WOULDN’T move to Webb’s district so he could play for them. Idk about you, but I purposely enrolled my kids where I did because I wanted the best environment for them, and that included athletics. I knew what high schol they’d go to and that’s why I live where I live. You don’t think parents in SWMO do the same for their kids? I’m surprised that’s unheard of for you.
Congrats to the Rock. Proud of my school (and my son’s) for getting to the Show-Me Bowl. Great accomplishment. Also, great job with winning the Cross Country State Championship, the 3rd place finish in Soccer today, and the top ten Swimming and Diving finish. As well I would be remiss not to mention:
We aren’t perfect, but we try to live our Men for Others credo. We recruit students and families to become part of our tradition. BTW - It was enjoyable to hear the last names of a number of my classmates today as their sons competed on the field... tradition.
A.M.D.G.
- Senior Leyton Rebori who had perfect scores on both the ACT and SAT
- The 5 young men selected for the state choir (approx. 20% of the students are in the choir program - including many athletes)
- The Engineering and Robotics students who build “mobile Halloween costumes” for disabled children
- The Hurtado Scholars program - providing the opportunity for nominated (by their teachers) boys to receive preparation - beginning in 5th grade, for a college prep education, helping to ensure opportunity and success when they get to high school. These boys all come from mid-town or Northeast neighborhood Catholic schools. BTW I am quite happy that these kids have the opportunity for a Jesuit education that their parents would not be able to afford.
- Provide opportunities for boys in the Boys Hope Girls Hope program to attend the school. Here’s a great example and he also plays football https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article220982015.html
We aren’t perfect, but we try to live our Men for Others credo. We recruit students and families to become part of our tradition. BTW - It was enjoyable to hear the last names of a number of my classmates today as their sons competed on the field... tradition.
A.M.D.G.
Do all athletes pay full tuition and pass the entrance exam? This is a yes or no question.
This is correct. ^^
But kids/parents have found a loophole that they transfered for "safety" reasons not athletic reasons. And that overrides any objections a previous school had about the transfer. Making kid eligible instantly.
Pass the exam - yes, or have to attend/pass summer school. No different than any other student.
Pay full tuition, doubtful. Of course approximately 40%+ of students receive some aid. The financial aid program is run through a national organization - similar to college.
Play by the rules - yes.
Should students who do not have means to pay full tuition be disallowed from extracurricular activities? This is a yes or no question.
Isn't eduction the #1 reason a student goes to school?
Simple solution. Any student that transfers public or private is ineligible for 1 year. no exceptions. This may hurt some families that move for legit reasons but would make the abusers of the system decide if not playing football for a year worth it. Eighth graders could decide private or their feeder school with no penalty.
Simple solution. Any student that transfers public or private is ineligible for 1 year. no exceptions. This may hurt some families that move for legit reasons but would make the abusers of the system decide if not playing football for a year worth it. Eighth graders could decide private or their feeder school with no penalty.
Funny word “option.” Generally it means one can make a choice between multiple alternatives. In your world however, there is no option only a mandate.
I am proud that my school makes the option of a Jesuit education available to any student with the ability and desire, regardless of means.
You would have fit in quite well in 1917 Russia. Thanks for your input comrade.
Any with ability,,,,,what does Rockhurst do with students who apply to go to school there but don’t have the grades??? If they can’t pass the admissions test they are toast aren’t they??
For schools to be part of MSHSAA they should be required to accept each and every student like public schools are
Students who don’t have the academic ability are denied admission. A true college prep education isn’t for everyone. I don’t think they are “toast,” they just have different talents. We are fortunate here in KC that there are a number of options for kids.
As for your second paragraph, you ought to consider joining BHP/Veer in his local Soviet collective. A great opportunity for both of you to rise to the middle.
Peter Quill
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To me the advertising and recruitment are expected because they are a private school. I mean how else are they going to get players.
The real question is are these kids they recruit actually paying the tuition the same as Mr Budweiser’s VP of technologies kid. The only difference here let’s be honest is talk about money and grades.
The real question is are these kids they recruit actually paying the tuition the same as Mr Budweiser’s VP of technologies kid. The only difference here let’s be honest is talk about money and grades.
Those actually were MSHSAA’s rules. Then administrators from the overwhelming majority of high schools in the state (public schools) realized how ridiculous it was after the uproar from public school families.
Nope. It isn’t about money OR grades. It’s about public school fans flipping out and crying “unfair” when a rural public school gets beaten by a private school. Then it becomes the hot thread for days and people say crazy things like demanding to know how much other people pay in tuition. I LOVE it.
Peter Quill
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The next level in the debate is where these private schools play. While I feel private should play against public in my humble opinion they should be taxed with playing schools twice their size in the playoffs. Does the multiplier currently do that?
That always crosses my mind.
Most of these schools have incredibly high academic standards... which is what brings in the big donors. The odds that all the random athletes can meet these academic standards is about zero.
That's just reality and law of averages.
That’s a really good point. Speaking frankly, I think privates SHOULD have their own State Championship or (as California does) have an Ooen and Public Division for championships. The biggest barrier to that is Missouri’s size (# of schools) but a better class multiplier would be something that wouldn’t require a total overhaul. Let public schools decide if they want to compete with privates and end the annual complaints. The voices get louder as more and more fans watch their seasons end, then the bitching gets louder.
What’s notable is that Classifications assume that larger enrollments mean better teams because they have a larger pool of kids and (presumably) better athletes as a result. It’s the number of participants and commitment to the program that are the more significant variables. A Class 2 team with 80 kids will probably compete with a Class 5 team with 35.
I saw an ad and a billboard advertising the sports programs at Missouri Military Academy? Where is the outrage and anger over them?
You pack a lot of drama, pumpkin. Comparing a high school athletics situation to soviet russia.
You'll make a fine mother in law someday.
Im positive at least one set of siblings that struggled in a lesser south kc district found a way to pass that tough test. Guess d1 running backs get a sliding scale.
This is an emotional topic, MORock. If MSHSAA’s actual rules don’t lessen the hurt in their butts, then your testimonials won’t either. Just sit back and enjoy the show. Maybe lob a stone here or there to keep the tears flowing.
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