OMG Mueller looks lost
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I live with a person who has hearing loss.
It was really important to Mueller to find the questioner. It makes a huge difference for the hearing impaired to be facing directly at the speaker.
It was really important to Mueller to find the questioner. It makes a huge difference for the hearing impaired to be facing directly at the speaker.
Peter Quill
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Who did worse Mueller or Mark Zuckerberg?
Nothing loss or gained for all parties involved. Only more arguments.
Nothing loss or gained for all parties involved. Only more arguments.
I have to agree, if anything Mueller is trying very hard to walk a line neutrality, he has made it very clear to both parties that he will not be a pawn for either side.
It looks like Mueller hasn’t read the Mueller report...
He has already “clarified” (read changed) his answer on that so, no..
It looks like Mueller hasn’t read the Mueller report...
he is struggling... but it is clear he is not going to be lead around by the nose by either party. This was a huge waste of time.
He said he had never heard of Fusion GPS under oath! Never heard of. Democrats are consuming a lot of antacids today.
Peter Quill
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“I will let you read it.”
“I defer to the report.”
“I don’t agree with......”
“I don’t recall.”
“I don’t remember.”
“What was that, can you please repeat.”
What other term am I missing here?
“I defer to the report.”
“I don’t agree with......”
“I don’t recall.”
“I don’t remember.”
“What was that, can you please repeat.”
What other term am I missing here?
The entire investigation was a huge waste of time.
As someone who has had to testify before (and not nearly in that volatile a setting) it can be extremely challenging to remember EVERY detail. The entire investigation is a sham, but you still feel sorry for the guy.
Peter Quill
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Winner, slight edge to the democrats as at the minimum they will get Trump after out of office. Add to that not much information was divulged on the Steele dosier or Fusion GPS.
Losers, Mueller and the American People.
Losers, Mueller and the American People.
Both sides will point to something saying they scored points, However I don't think there was anything revealed in his testimony that could really sway someone from the other side to go oh my that changed my mind. The battle lines are drawn and pretty much stayed the same after all of this.
The only thing that I can say for certain is Mueller really looked like a feeble old man up there, which is so sad that he has had such a great career but will probable be more remembered for this performance or lack of a good performance.
So in the words of Biden, We need some younger people to step up into leadership rolls...
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Peter Quill
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Yes I had just commented to the wife that Democrats and Republicans today heard only what they wanted to hear so I guess things are normal in Washington?Both sides will point to something saying they scored points, However I don't think there was anything revealed in his testimony that could really sway someone from the other side to go oh my that changed my mind. The battle lines are drawn and pretty much stayed the same after all of this.
The only thing that I can say for certain is Mueller really looked like a feeble old man up there, which is so sad that he has had such a great career but will probable be more remembered for this performance or lack of a good performance.
So in the words of Biden, We need some younger people to step up into leadership rolls...
1. The Russians interfered in our election.
2. Their goal was to hurt Clinton/help Trump.
3. Trump’s campaign welcomed their help.
4. There was much contact between Russia and the campaign.
5. They could not prove anyone conspired.
6. Trump repeatedly tried to block and deter the investigation.
7. Many of Trump’s people lied to Mueller.
8. Trump was not exonerated.
9. It was not a witch hunt or hoax.
Tell me one thing I listed above that is not true.
2. Their goal was to hurt Clinton/help Trump.
3. Trump’s campaign welcomed their help.
4. There was much contact between Russia and the campaign.
5. They could not prove anyone conspired.
6. Trump repeatedly tried to block and deter the investigation.
7. Many of Trump’s people lied to Mueller.
8. Trump was not exonerated.
9. It was not a witch hunt or hoax.
Tell me one thing I listed above that is not true.
1. The Russians interfered in our election.
How do you define interfered, did they change anybodies vote, then I would say no. did they campaign for Trump yes, however you would have needed to be an idiot to not realize that Russia wanted Trump to win. .
2. Their goal was to hurt Clinton/help Trump.
Clinton didn't need much help in this, most of the pain she felt was self inflicted. She was never honest with the electoral. She should have released her speeches to the large banks and she should have been more open and honest about the server and email.
3. Trump’s campaign welcomed their help.
This is no secret, he is on TV asking Russia to find those lost email, so what is your point refer to your first question, most people already knew this and voted for him anyways, because he was HONEST, Hillary was trying to cover up.
4. There was much contact between Russia and the campaign.
Probable, but did they get anything, honestly they didn't and Mueller even said as much. Had they gotten something then I think more would be in Jail.
5. They could not prove anyone conspired.
yep
6. Trump repeatedly tried to block and deter the investigation.
I would, you would any normal person would if they felt somebody was trying to de-legitimize your win?
7. Many of Trump’s people lied to Mueller.
and those that were caught are in Jail.
8. Trump was not exonerated.
Proable not., but had there been no investigation there would not have been any interference. So which came first the chicken or the egg?
9. It was not a witch hunt or hoax.
Agree in part, but I would still like to prob more into this on why it was done. Again nothing in this testimony changed my mind about Trump. If anything thru all of this it has turned me off more to the Dems, I was leaning more towards the Dems, but after Hillary lost and the way they went about things, blaming the loss on Russia instead of just looking at some of their own failed polices and why some people are turned off by them come on. I would have preferred the Dems come out of this and said hey we heard you loud and clear and these are the things we believe in and are going to change. Sometimes after a loss you need some reflect on what you did wrong and what you did right and fix what when wrong improve yourself.
Tell me one thing I listed above that is not true.[/QUOTE]
How do you define interfered, did they change anybodies vote, then I would say no. did they campaign for Trump yes, however you would have needed to be an idiot to not realize that Russia wanted Trump to win. .
2. Their goal was to hurt Clinton/help Trump.
Clinton didn't need much help in this, most of the pain she felt was self inflicted. She was never honest with the electoral. She should have released her speeches to the large banks and she should have been more open and honest about the server and email.
3. Trump’s campaign welcomed their help.
This is no secret, he is on TV asking Russia to find those lost email, so what is your point refer to your first question, most people already knew this and voted for him anyways, because he was HONEST, Hillary was trying to cover up.
4. There was much contact between Russia and the campaign.
Probable, but did they get anything, honestly they didn't and Mueller even said as much. Had they gotten something then I think more would be in Jail.
5. They could not prove anyone conspired.
yep
6. Trump repeatedly tried to block and deter the investigation.
I would, you would any normal person would if they felt somebody was trying to de-legitimize your win?
7. Many of Trump’s people lied to Mueller.
and those that were caught are in Jail.
8. Trump was not exonerated.
Proable not., but had there been no investigation there would not have been any interference. So which came first the chicken or the egg?
9. It was not a witch hunt or hoax.
Agree in part, but I would still like to prob more into this on why it was done. Again nothing in this testimony changed my mind about Trump. If anything thru all of this it has turned me off more to the Dems, I was leaning more towards the Dems, but after Hillary lost and the way they went about things, blaming the loss on Russia instead of just looking at some of their own failed polices and why some people are turned off by them come on. I would have preferred the Dems come out of this and said hey we heard you loud and clear and these are the things we believe in and are going to change. Sometimes after a loss you need some reflect on what you did wrong and what you did right and fix what when wrong improve yourself.
Tell me one thing I listed above that is not true.[/QUOTE]
Peter Quill
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After the hearings Mueller pulls up to drive thru.
Wendy's: "What can I get for you today?
“Mueller: "I can't get into that."
Wendy's: "You can't get into what?"
Mueller: "It's in my report."
Wendy's: "What report?"
Mueller: "I take your question."
Wendy's: "Sir, this is a Wendy's."
Wendy's: "What can I get for you today?
“Mueller: "I can't get into that."
Wendy's: "You can't get into what?"
Mueller: "It's in my report."
Wendy's: "What report?"
Mueller: "I take your question."
Wendy's: "Sir, this is a Wendy's."
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Obviously you either didn’t read the Mueller report (That’s ok most people haven’t) or your ethical standards and mine are not a match.
“I would, you would” uhhhh no. I wouldn’t.
He tried to get McGahn to falsify information.
He lied about the Trump Tower meeting.
He tried to get multiple people to lie to Mueller. He floated pardons to people to get them to lie. He tried to fire Mueller to stop the investigation. He tried to get Sessions to only focus the investigation on future elections.
I wouldn’t do any of that. I would rather quit.
Probably? There was well over 100 occurrences of contact. Manafort passed polling data to Russia so they could laser focus their efforts on individuals in areas critical for Trump to win. If their use of social media got two different sides to show up for fake protests/rallies that means they effectively altered people’s behavior.
They had an impact.
Probably? Trump was NOT exonerated. Period.
He said "Generally yes" to both questions, which is NOT definitive.
Let's quit misrepresenting things.
This was a disaster for Nadler and him homies today anyway you want to spin it.
The fact Duck is going back to the original report as opposed to today confirms that.
Mueller was obviously appointed for his credibility and then shelved while the others (Clinton leftists) went to work. The person who learned the most about the report today was......Mueller. He was the figure head and nothing more. He was used then and today and it is pretty exposed as such.
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It's been shown many times how the Russians social media campaign sowed discourse throughout the country that was meant to divide us and help Trump. In a close election it doesn't take much to make a difference. Don't forget that Manafort passed along internal polling data and voter info to a guy that no doubt passed that info on to those that were doing this so they could target their attacks in the right places.
Poor Duck,
When I think of him, the song from John Connolly comes to mind, with a few changes
"I don't know why I keep believing you need me"
"When you've proved so many times it ain't true"
"And I can't find one good reason for staying "
"Maybe by leaving would be the best for you "
"But these lib colored glasses "
"That I'm looking through "
"Show only the beauty "
"Cause they hide all the truth"
"And they let me hold on to the good times, Obama times,"
"The ones I used to hear when I worshiped you"
"And they keep me from feeling so cheated, defeated "
"When the electorial vote, shows me a fool"
" These lib colored glasses"
"That I'm looking through "
"Show only the beauty "
"Cause they hide all the truth "
"So I just keep on hopin, believing "
"That by counting the many times, I've lied"
"You'll believe me when I say Trumps guilty "
" And I can lay these lib colored glasses aside"
" But these lib colored glasses"
"That I'm looking through "
"Show only the beauty "
"Cause they hide all the truth "
When I think of him, the song from John Connolly comes to mind, with a few changes
"I don't know why I keep believing you need me"
"When you've proved so many times it ain't true"
"And I can't find one good reason for staying "
"Maybe by leaving would be the best for you "
"But these lib colored glasses "
"That I'm looking through "
"Show only the beauty "
"Cause they hide all the truth"
"And they let me hold on to the good times, Obama times,"
"The ones I used to hear when I worshiped you"
"And they keep me from feeling so cheated, defeated "
"When the electorial vote, shows me a fool"
" These lib colored glasses"
"That I'm looking through "
"Show only the beauty "
"Cause they hide all the truth "
"So I just keep on hopin, believing "
"That by counting the many times, I've lied"
"You'll believe me when I say Trumps guilty "
" And I can lay these lib colored glasses aside"
" But these lib colored glasses"
"That I'm looking through "
"Show only the beauty "
"Cause they hide all the truth "
That would be Bill Barr. That was the reason Mueller look so lost at sea. He had to make sure he heard each word when they were quoting him and then look it up. He had to be measured when responding to anything. I'm sure he has all of his cognitive faculties.
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