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Stevedangos
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He is the most feckless man who has ever been President of our Country. What an embarrassment to the position that used to be called "Leader of the Free World"
GW had was supposed to have them all trained up before he left office. How mnay years do we have to train them to make them actually fight someone instead of handing over the nice new weapons we gave them? Maybe that;s the plan, they talk us into giving a gazillion dollars worth of weapons so they can give them to ISIS and act like they didn't mean to.
I get tired of hearing that. Iraq's military capabilities were destroyed. That was the "mission accomplished". Had nothing to do with the damn re-build or re-training.
Actually it was to signal an end to 'major combat operations'..
Bush was such an epic fail. He screws up everything he touches and always has.
His generation and type (silver spoon never held accountable) led our country in the crapper.
Ouch.
It was a bad look, though - it was a clear example of how Bush's team had no clue what it meant to invade a sovereign nation rife with sectarian issues.
They defined the mission as taking out Saddam and ignored everything else.
The quote was "We don't yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the Iraqis"
That quote is telling in a number of ways - how has it taken this long? What do we want from Iraq? What are we trying to accomplish?
What's also telling is I don't think anyone really has a complete strategy. Syria/Iraq/ISIS is a total mess.
Until Assad decides to fight ISIS, Iraq decides to empower its Sunni minority, and the Saudis and Qataris stop bankrolling jihadists, the US basically cannot win.
We can win.
We can leave them to kill each other without harming ours.
Thanks Shrub.
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ag-man
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I think that's overrated as a theory. Cheney had a lot of power but Bush didn't let Cheney do things he disagreed with. Bush just trusted a lot of very incompetent people and wasn't smart enough to overrule them to make better decisions.
Pretty much. Iraq's military capabilities were destroyed but I don't believe there ever was a plan in place to move forward.
The US military accomplished the mission that the president gave them. They destroyed the govt of Iraq's military capability. After that the mission changed to dealing with insurgents and re-building a fair, representive, working govt and infrastructure. There was no effective plan put forward to do that and there still isn't. That was the failure.
That was and is the failure, yes. But the #1 reason it is a failure is because it's not, inherently, a military problem. You can't bomb people into getting along.
Lol. You can if you bomb enough. But that is not the point. It was about the "mission accomplished" not whether it was right or wrong to do it in the first place.
If you bomb them enough, I suppose you can get them to agree they hate you, but that's about it.
Wouldn't you hate us?
Imagine another country coming into the US and doing what we do.
I think we don't think enough about the impact of our actions. Drones are a very good example of this
Ha, good one.
I guess that silver spoon did feed you a sense of humor throughout your life.
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