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The system caused people to end up in prison. Get with the program, abolish the system, and make a system that creates no murderers, thiefs, drug traffickers and rapists and all will be hunky dory.
I think the end game is to handicap the police in such away they become ineffective,demoralized and a easy target to blame for all the woes created by those in charge. Then those in charge can sweep in with a total rebuild and install a new system that they control with their cronies from top to bottom. Of course this new police force will answer only to the power structure that has been entrenched for decades in these cities but has of yet been able to gain total control over those on the force and legal power structure of the Blue that tends not to be of the same mindset of the leaders in the Dem held cities..
These revolutionaries intentionally never explain what they will replace the system with.
Doesn't 'defund' mean cut ALL funding for something? Where is that happening to a police department? I guess Butler County is 'defunding' the Sheriff's Department since they are having budget issues and they have had to lay off more deputies, same could happen in the city of Poplar Bluff because of budget issues. Hey are NOT cutting All the jobs but they are cutting some and not replacing several others the they come open.
Amazing how an economic crash leads to budget cuts which the right is supposed to be in favor of since they are for balanced budgets and all that fiscal responsibility. Now those budget cuts are defunding cops. Guess they will be thrilled to pay the tax increase to prevent budget cuts.
We are in favor of cutting bogus,ineffective and dehumanizing Social Programs that never ever work. We are in Favor of Increasing Police and the Military spending always.
But what we have now is a cutting of Big City police budgets which helped clean up places Like NYC/Chicago and make them tourist destinations but it will be a return to the 60's and 70's crap holes that once was the Norm in those places. Of course they are often shifting more money in to the Very Programs that have failed for the last 50 years...You know to the Mental health and Social worker fields because you know Street Crime is basically a Mental Issue LOL. And a Social Worker can clearly talk these people into becoming Good citizens ....Oh Brother
But with that said I could careless really because the are going to reap what the sow, on some surface level I feel bad because the very people who need the police the most will now have no where to turn to, the rich will have private security and gated communities. The Middle Class will keep their police in the Suburbs to keep the Crime contained in the Inner cities. The inner cities will get more dangerous, more violent and poorer. And they will continue to Cry Foul and blame everyone but themselves and their actions.
They will continue to elect the same type of leaders, continue to call for the Same type of bogus do nothing programs and the cycle will continue.
They are not just cutting budgets either they are hamstringing the Police and making them nurse maids as opposed to a Protective force that can use Equal or Greater force when confronted with Violent and dangerous situations....I love the response by the Police. ...
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They are cutting lots of stuff around here, not just positions, but the power and water HAVE stay on and the streets have to be passable so they can't go too deep there. Some is outright cuts and others are not replacing retirees.
We pay for what we use monthly but we don't produce our own. The local government absolutely provides our power and water in Poplar Bluff. We have City Light and Water/Sewer and we have a City Street Department, and Police. The county has a sewer and water system for those not on their own well and septic system, they have county road and bridge workers and the Sheriff's department. Poplar Bluff and Butler County are hardly considered liberal. ALL of these employees are paid by the city or the county. Where do you get power and water from in towns where you live?
3R, you may as well be talking to the wall. Local and city governments are in dire straits with loss of revenues from covid, so budgets cuts are coming across the board. But according to reps, all cuts to law enforcement are "defunding the police". Does BLM now control local law enforcement budgets?
Pure Fox news BS.
Here is what you don’t understand. Yes, Covid has ransacked businesses and created loss of revenue for them. Thus, them having to relook at their budgets.
But that’s not what you and the Dems are talking about. You guys want to defund the police because you think they are doing a poor job. Not ONE Dem has suggested defunding the police because Covid has hurt revenue’s for these businesses. NOT ONE!!!!
Ever since the GF death, it’s been all defund the police. Now it is “relocate” because you guys realize how stupid you sound to actually defund/take money away from law enforcement.
Stop bringing up the loss of revenues from Covid! Not one elected Dem is using that as their reasoning for wanting to defund/relocate funds for the police. So you sure as hell don’t get to use it!
The vast majority of Dems in Congress and in America do not favor "defunding the police" - it's being led by radicals in the cities and being used by repubs as a weapon to point at all Dems. There will be some large cities that divert funding to mental health issues and police in schools, which Biden has said he favors. To insinuate that police departments all over the country are all going to go under some big structural change is just the usual repub sound bite scare tactic that repubs are riding like the ponies at Fairmont Park. Do you actually believe the police depts. in Columbia, Joplin, and Sikeston are going to replaces police with social workers? But they will face budget cuts, just like the rest of local agencies dependent on tax revenues.
Just more repub scare tactics.
Really? All the heavyweight Democrats are publically supporting police and telling Americans how wonderful policemen are?
If our culture decides the Police are bad, our Law Enforcement will erode way before the Neo Marxist vote to abolish the police.
Y'all act like the furthest left is going to take over. They are 10 percent of the population. The radicals are not taking over. Heck Kasich is speaking at the democratic convention. That sure is not a defund police radical.
Really??
Biden has adopted Bernie, AOC and Beto’s plans as his own.
That’s about as far left as you can get.
I don't know who are all of the Dem politicians that are pushing Defund Popo. Granted, I'll give you the fact that AOC and Nancy are nuts, but I don't see the big Dem push for it. You say MANY, I say a few. Admit I don't know every politician's stance. Both parties are going to have to address police use of force in some form for their conventions. Regardless, the traditional police force is not going to change much in Hometown, USA.
Of course the traditional police force isn’t going to change in Hometown, USA. Why would it? There’s no crime there. Or VERY little.
Defunded the police of New York, Chicago, Atlanta etc is the problem. And it will happen. And murders, burglaries, violence etc will go up. It already has.
Biden has not joined the call of protesters for whom “defund the police” became a rallying cry after Floyd’s killing in Minneapolis. Biden has proposed more money for police, conditioned on improvements in their practices.
“I don’t support defunding the police,” Biden said last month in a CBS interview. But he said he would support tying federal aid to police based on whether “they meet certain basic standards of decency, honorableness and, in fact, are able to demonstrate they can protect the community, everybody in the community.”
Biden added in remarks Wednesday to reporters: “We don’t have to defund the police departments; we have to make sure they meet minimum basic standards of decency.”
Biden’s criminal-justice agenda, released long before he became the Democrats’ presumptive presidential nominee, proposes more federal money for “training that is needed to avert tragic, unjustifiable deaths” and hiring more officers to ensure that departments are racially and ethnically reflective of the populations they serve.
“I don’t support defunding the police,” Biden said last month in a CBS interview. But he said he would support tying federal aid to police based on whether “they meet certain basic standards of decency, honorableness and, in fact, are able to demonstrate they can protect the community, everybody in the community.”
Biden added in remarks Wednesday to reporters: “We don’t have to defund the police departments; we have to make sure they meet minimum basic standards of decency.”
Biden’s criminal-justice agenda, released long before he became the Democrats’ presumptive presidential nominee, proposes more federal money for “training that is needed to avert tragic, unjustifiable deaths” and hiring more officers to ensure that departments are racially and ethnically reflective of the populations they serve.
Biden was asked point-blank twice if he supports defunding the police and twice he responded ‘yes.” He added on things that were outside the scope of the question because he’s a rambling lunatic, but the fact is, he said “yes” twice.
Just a month ago in early June Biden’s campaign rapid response director Andrew Bates said, “Vice President Biden does not believe that police should be defunded.” What changed?
Just a month ago in early June Biden’s campaign rapid response director Andrew Bates said, “Vice President Biden does not believe that police should be defunded.” What changed?
You have NO idea what you're talking about. YOU asked if our local government provides water and power. I said YES and explained how it works here. What we pay for our power and water wouldn't even come close to paying the salaries for all the folks that keep it all up and running. It 'might' cover the cost of the equipment it takes to keep it all running. A few years ago we voted for an increase in our water and sewer bill that would update our local sewage treatment plant because the DNR has said it's way out of compliance. That project finally got under way late last year.
In the entire quote, he specifies that funds would be allocated for mental health issues and school policing. And he is on record as saying several times he opposes DTP since that interview.
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Then why hasn’t he came out and said he’s completely against the protesters holding signs that say “Defund the Police?”
That’s his base. Where’s he at??
When Biden had his mind, he was a flip-flopper. No consistency. No philosophy. Circular. Whatever gets it closer to crap.
What does K call a Mayor that orders his police department to stand down, and then the Police tell the public they're on their own?
Police have to clean up for bad parenting. But they are the problem.
I know that's the lamest excuse of all....Street crime is a Mental health issue.....Nope Nada a Complete lie... statistically it's a Drug issue with almost 60-80% of all street crime being drug related ...depends on who's stats you belief but clearly Drugs drive Street level crime. Mental health is just away to bamboozle the weak softies into backing Defunding aka relocating(reallocate
) funds to bogus Social Services to pay some cronies.
