Not A Good Look For Mizzou
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The Mid American Conference is waiting. Ball St. and Central Michigan would LOVE to have the Tiggers on the schedule.
After getting Young/Palmore yesterday afternoon I feel quite a bit better about the class. Losing the WRs the last week to Ohio State and Notre Dame stings but from what I heard at the recruiting reception yesterday in Columbia, a lot of the big boys came after several of our commits late and we held them off. The overall ranking is disappointing and the lack of Missouri kids is not a positive. The 2018 class is the best in this state in decades, so Barry will have a chance to turn things around with recruiting. And obviously, after two down years it would really help if the 2017 Tigers can have a big season on the gridiron too.
This class appears to be one that can exceed the rankings. Lots of potential with this group. If that potential can turn into results, time will tell.
4 and 5 star kids will not ever go to MIZZOU in droves but they do need to find a way to keep instate kids at home.
When MU caved in to a fringe professional political group, it lost credibility. This is on top of all the basketball scandals. Mizzou's brand is tarnished as hell. I'm steering my D1 recruits away from there... Just like Coach Nickerson, I'm blackballing that school.
Undergraduate enrollment is down more than 2,100 students in 2016, or almost 8 percent, this semester compared to fall 2015, and almost three-quarters of that loss comes from the freshman class.
As of the first day of classes, Mizzou enrolled 4,799 freshmen — the smallest class in almost a decade. That number is down more than 1,600 incoming freshmen from fall 2015.
Undergraduate enrollment is down more than 2,100 students in 2016, or almost 8 percent, this semester compared to fall 2015, and almost three-quarters of that loss comes from the freshman class.
As of the first day of classes, Mizzou enrolled 4,799 freshmen — the smallest class in almost a decade. That number is down more than 1,600 incoming freshmen from fall 2015.
So much here I disagree with...I'll start with the football aspect. A protest that happened 14 months ago is not impacting football recruiting. The reality is that two subpar seasons coupled with hiring a guy who wasn't a splashy hire (although I think he will be a good coach) is the culprit. They just need to win.
You mention "all the basketball scandals" which at this point basically entails a booster not strictly monitoring his internship program unless you are talking about the Ricky Clemons stuff from nearly 15 years ago. They are struggling in basketball because they made a bad hire and simply don't have the athletes. Not because of a protest and not because of scandal.
Finally speaking about the protest in a broad sense, an event that occurred roughly 452 days ago, there is a new University President on the way, the Chancellor left, the Athletic Director left, and Gary Pinkel is no longer the football coach. I am confused why anyone would blackball an institution when so much time has passed and the leadership has completely flipped. I am an alum, fan, TSF donor, etc. so perhaps I am biased in the matter, but frankly at some point people need to move on. The people that still hold the events against the University today are in my mind folks that have other grievances and agendas and simply don't like MU. And that's okay. But don't hide behind the protest.
I was born and raised a true Tiger Fan! But I definitely believe that spoiled little rich brat put a huge black eye on Mizzou and it doesn't seem to be healing very fast! I think Odom is a great leader and the kids love him but in my opinion he has to get some quality big boys up front on both sides of the ball and two line coaches that are lights out! You can have the best QB in the stadium but if he is running scared all night it's tough to succeed!
You are wearing some thick black&gold glasses if you can't see that MU's brand is severely tarnished. And you are absolutely out of touch if you don't think parents of student athletes don't remember seeing the debacle that took place with "student protests," and the aftermath of that. I've heard many parents say they will steer their students and student athletes away from that institution. The enrollment numbers don't lie...that is a significant DROP in enrollment. That lack of enthusiasm is also impacting recruiting. It may take longer than many realize to recover.
Your hatred is showing. It is happening at institutions all across the country. For what ever reason ESPN and national media has a hard on for MU. All it takes is one winning season and all is recovered.
My hatred? I am indifferent, or impartial. I'd always pull for Missouri over Kansas or K-State. Even cried after the Nebraska kick-the ball touchdown and the fifth down game with Colorado. No, I am a realist and an observer. Merely conveying the sentiment I'm hearing and experiencing. Again, the enrollment numbers don't lie. And this recruiting class doesn't either.
I appreciate the earnest response. I do not disagree that it affected enrollment. It's tough to say how much. We knew that it was going to drop due to the decline in high school graduates in the state of Missouri. But I think the notion that there was rampant racism hurt MU out of state (particularly Chicagoland) and a lot of conservatives took exception with the supposed liberal agenda of the school and it affected things instate. Unfortunately MU was in a bad spot and taking it from both sides.
In terms of athletics, MU didn't have anyone de-commit because of it. I am sure it had an impact on the 2016 class in particular but it is hard to say how much. Time heals all wounds and I sincerely hope with each passing day that it becomes less of an issue. We'll see.
Composite Recruiting ranking for Missouri
2012 32nd
2013 43rd
2014 39th
2015 25th
2016 43rd
2017 50th
2012 32nd
2013 43rd
2014 39th
2015 25th
2016 43rd
2017 50th
Sure don't seem like it. Not the only shot you have taken at Mizzou.
You are right though, enrollment #s are down, but it won't last forever. I new baskeball coach, a winning football season on top of America short term memory and all of a sudden all will be forgotten. Your overreaction to the situation is far to great to be a realist.
Enrollment down...recruiting down...basketball abysmal...football not so good. Brand tarnished. Am I the only one seeing this?
I'm not enough of a downer to think it will always get worse...time will heal things. But I don't have on black and gold glasses and not see the train needs an overhaul.
Totally agree. Completely new leadership, new AD, 2nd year football coach, and soon a new basketball coach. Lots of change occurring which is probably good.
Former Professor Melissa Click saying "Get some muscle over here," did the tarnishing.
If I'm up against Mizzou for a recruit...this one is going to the parent's inbox...all I'm saying.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...=57a13fbdecc083c4febb47c143c9691b&action=view
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...=57a13fbdecc083c4febb47c143c9691b&action=view
Nah, just looked really bad. SMU getting the death penalty is tarnishing. If Penn St. can overcome raping of children, I am sure MU will overcome Melissa Click.
Did she ever find another job?
The only place she should be working is one where you wear a hat and say, "would you like fries with that, sir?"
Not to belabor this, but PAST BEHAVIOR is the best predictor of FUTURE behavior. With a huge commitment to attend a college and put your life into it, little differences mean a lot.
By the looks of things, I think she may be at UC Berkley...
Steering away equates to "hatred" now? As I said above, "with a huge commitment to attend a college and put your life into it, little differences mean a lot."
Most of the D1 level recruits in next years class are from St. Louis. Mizzou will have a tough time getting those kids.
Everyone that you could possibly blame for CS1950 (Wolfe, Loftin, Pinkel, and Rhodes) are gone. So aren't they doing exactly what you suggest?
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