Nixa 7-1 @ Carthage 7-0 . Who ya got ?
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This is going to be a hard one to choose. I’m going to have to go with Nixa though.
Webb may have beat them, but I’ve thought all year that Carthage isn’t up to snuff and they didn’t play Webb so we didn’t get to see that, but I’ll take Nixa by 14.
Webb may have beat them, but I’ve thought all year that Carthage isn’t up to snuff and they didn’t play Webb so we didn’t get to see that, but I’ll take Nixa by 14.
I'm not sure I'd take either team by more than 3 . I haven't seen Carthage but based upon this year's results...it could go either way .
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Game won't be very close regardless of winner. Carthage at home could be a tough order for Nixa but maybe we get to see how DMGB handles preparing his young team for tough road test the sequel
Seen it lots of years: A good team rolling along undefeated handling everything with ease needs to get knocked on their backside to be motivated to pay attention to details and get better. I think Webb supplied needed attitude adjustment and it appears Nixa took up the challenge and responded nicely. Should be a heck of a game. Will it be streamed anywhere?
I really like Nixa's head coach. Pretty impressive in his first year. He has a lot of young talent, so they will be a force in years to come. This should be a great game. I will take Carthage by 7. I think this will be a really high scoring game, something like 45-38. Best of luck to both teams!
This one is hard to say.
Nixa doesn't look to have many weaknesses besides Webb City. But I haven't watched them aside from some highlights so I honestly don't know a ton about them. Their passing could shred Carthage D.
To me, Carthage has cleaned up a lot of problems from early in the season except for giving up big plays, particularly with initial pressure busting a play but failing to finish it off. Also on kick returns. It was particularly evident at Republic but it's been an observation in several games. I'd imagine this game will have the Tigers more focused but we'll see.
Probably one of those games that comes down to a mistake or timing of who has the ball at the right time. The last 'big' game between these teams was the quarterfinals a few years ago... Carthage won by 2 after stopping a 2pt attempt at the end of the game. However there was also that play at the half where the Nixa QB inadvertently took a knee instead of spiking the ball and the time ran out on their FG attempt that if made could have changed the outcome. The year before Carthage lost by 2 in the district final to Nixa. So there is some history of good games here.
I still think Carthage wins this game but maybe by only a TD. Something like 35-42.
KDMO Carthage/Jim Taylor will have it streamed on boxcast app and the Carthage Sports Channel on YouTube.
Nixa doesn't look to have many weaknesses besides Webb City. But I haven't watched them aside from some highlights so I honestly don't know a ton about them. Their passing could shred Carthage D.
To me, Carthage has cleaned up a lot of problems from early in the season except for giving up big plays, particularly with initial pressure busting a play but failing to finish it off. Also on kick returns. It was particularly evident at Republic but it's been an observation in several games. I'd imagine this game will have the Tigers more focused but we'll see.
Probably one of those games that comes down to a mistake or timing of who has the ball at the right time. The last 'big' game between these teams was the quarterfinals a few years ago... Carthage won by 2 after stopping a 2pt attempt at the end of the game. However there was also that play at the half where the Nixa QB inadvertently took a knee instead of spiking the ball and the time ran out on their FG attempt that if made could have changed the outcome. The year before Carthage lost by 2 in the district final to Nixa. So there is some history of good games here.
I still think Carthage wins this game but maybe by only a TD. Something like 35-42.
KDMO Carthage/Jim Taylor will have it streamed on boxcast app and the Carthage Sports Channel on YouTube.
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One thing that makes this game particularly interesting is that Carthage must not only win, but must win by 10 points in order to secure the number 1 seed in their district. I could easily foresee a bizarre situation where Carthage scores a go-ahead touchdown to go up 28-21 with 30 seconds left, but is then forced to onside kick to try and get a field goal and win by 10. Nixa then recovers the onside kick, but fails to score. Carthage ends up winning the game and the conference, but gets stuck in the number 2 seed behind Webb City due to the 1 point win over Carl Junction week 2.
I don't know the ins and outs of the formula but wouldn't it also depend on how Webb City does? I would think it would be difficult to leap WC considering they have an extra game that was played up a class. And they will most likely beat willard by 5 TDs.
The number of games doesn’t matter at all. A team with 1 game played can be #1 seed over a team with 8-9 games
In that situation I really doubt that Carthage would onside kick and risk a tying score just to try to secure a #1 district seed. While I think Ozark looks to be a tougher district semifinal match-up and home field in a district championship is great, the winner of the game gets a conference championship. If Carthage needed a 10 point win to secure a postseason bid that would be different.
The best WC can do is beat Willard by 13+. It marginally helps WC if Kickapoo wins. Otherwise Carthage controls their destiny for the # 1 seed. I don’t know if it takes a 10 point win or not but that is probably close.
Actually, it does matter depending on what you did in that one extra game. And Webb did well. So that helps their “per game” district rating whereas Carthage, who did not play, doesn’t have the extra game to pull them up just a bit had they done well in it.
Looks like Carthage does indeed need to win by 10+ points to leapfrog Webb (actually I think it has to be by 11) assuming Kickapoo wins against a 1 win Hillcrest and Webb wins by 13+ as expected. It's really close.
No doubt without the quickly scheduled Kickapoo game for Webb, Carthage would have the lead right now and be in the drivers seat for the 1 seed. That .83 difference in Class multiplier is huge as well as the extra opponents win (.05) if Kickapoo holds serve. Of course if Webb hadn't lost Week 1 this wouldn't be a discussion.
No doubt without the quickly scheduled Kickapoo game for Webb, Carthage would have the lead right now and be in the drivers seat for the 1 seed. That .83 difference in Class multiplier is huge as well as the extra opponents win (.05) if Kickapoo holds serve. Of course if Webb hadn't lost Week 1 this wouldn't be a discussion.
that’s right. With Nixa being Class 6 now, they get the extra points for playing up whereas C5 Webb playing C5 Willard now doesn’t do that
Kickapoo will beat Parkview, who may be one of the worst 5 teams in the state regardless of class. It is ironic that Central left the OC this year because they may have had a better chance to beat Parkview than they do anyone on their current schedule.
Yeah, it should be 11 points and not 10 points. I got a couple of different results depending on how I calculated it. I had the wrong numbers entered for Neosho even with the overtime loss. MSHSAA isn't explicitly clear on whether or not overtime games factor into strength of schedule. Neosho took Willard to overtime and lost, however; that extra five points split over eight games (Carthage) instead of nine games (Webb City) seems to be enough to swing it down from an 12-point to an 11-point cutoff. A Hillcrest upset of Kickapoo could also swing things to allow for just a 10-point win by Carthage.
- Carthage by 11 over Nixa
- Kickapoo over Hillcrest in regulation
- Joplin over Neosho in regulation
- Ozark over Carl Junction in regulation
- Branson over Republic in regulation
- Webb City over Willard by 13+ in regulation
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I got this one @BoosterBosko . Nerd alert!!!! Who talks about district points on a football forum.Yeah, it should be 11 points and not 10 points. I got a couple of different results depending on how I calculated it. I had the wrong numbers entered for Neosho even with the overtime loss. MSHSAA isn't explicitly clear on whether or not overtime games factor into strength of schedule. Neosho took Willard to overtime and lost, however; that extra five points split over eight games (Carthage) instead of nine games (Webb City) seems to be enough to swing it down from an 12-point to an 11-point cutoff. A Hillcrest upset of Kickapoo could also swing things to allow for just a 10-point win by Carthage.
Yields:
- Carthage by 11 over Nixa
- Kickapoo over Hillcrest in regulation
- Joplin over Neosho in regulation
- Ozark over Carl Junction in regulation
- Branson over Republic in regulation
- Webb City over Willard by 13+ in regulation
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This is literally everyone on this thread talking about math and district points
Kickapoo plays Hillcrest. The week they were supposed to play Parkview it got canceled and instead played Webb.
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