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Newburg Tournament results

(1) Steelville: 67
(8) Laquey: 17

(4) Crocker: 53
(5) Dixon: 39

(2) Newburg: 59
(7) Springfield Rush: 26

(3) Cuba: Too Much
(6) Bourbon: Not Near Enough
 
Hearing that the games scheduled for tonight are still on. Anyone know the times?
 
I thought u coached at Crocker? I saw a tweet that said they play at 530 vs Steelville girls. I will take crocker in an upset. 53 to 50.
 
I thought u coached at Crocker? I saw a tweet that said they play at 530 vs Steelville girls. I will take crocker in an upset. 53 to 50.
Correct!
Newburg vs. Cuba tonight at 4:00. Steelville vs. Crocker 5:30
 
Correct!
Newburg vs. Cuba tonight at 4:00. Steelville vs. Crocker 5:30
Why not just leave the game times alone? If the other four schools couldn’t make it, then the 4:00 and 5:30 slots would be open and the winners side of bracket would remain with original game times. Seems like 4:00 game would really cut down the attendance, which in turn would cut admissions. Money lost for Newburg.
 
Why not just leave the game times alone? If the other four schools couldn’t make it, then the 4:00 and 5:30 slots would be open and the winners side of bracket would remain with original game times. Seems like 4:00 game would really cut down the attendance, which in turn would cut admissions. Money lost for Newburg.

Game times were switched due to the amount of snow on the back roads and getting kids home before a really good refreeze set in. Cuba was hit pretty hard, so just a safety thing for young drivers. Hats off to Newburg for thinking about the safety of kids and moving these up, even with taking a cut on the entry costs.
 
How does a semi-final of a tourney get two of the worst officials in the area....CALLING TOGETHER!!??!?!!? I understand there is a shortage of refs but at least pair the jr high level officials with quality varsity ones... It is an absolute travesty to the athletes in this area that don't play at Waynesville, Rolla or Lebanon...They get shell shocked as soon as they travel out of the area due to the tic tac foul calling BS by the cellar dweller officials of the St. Robert association. Don't punish the athletes and coaches because they coach or play at a rural school and not in the OC.
 
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How does a semi-final of a tourney get two of the worst officials in the area....CALLING TOGETHER!!??!?!!? I understand there is a shortage of refs but at least pair the jr high level officials with quality varsity ones... It is an absolute travesty to the athletes in this area that don't play at Waynesville, Rolla or Lebanon...They get shell shocked as soon as they travel out of the area due to the tic tac foul calling BS by the cellar dweller officials of the St. Robert association. Don't punish the athletes and coaches because they coach or play at a rural school and not in the OC.

So what team got in foul trouble?
 
How does a semi-final of a tourney get two of the worst officials in the area....CALLING TOGETHER!!??!?!!? I understand there is a shortage of refs but at least pair the jr high level officials with quality varsity ones... It is an absolute travesty to the athletes in this area that don't play at Waynesville, Rolla or Lebanon...They get shell shocked as soon as they travel out of the area due to the tic tac foul calling BS by the cellar dweller officials of the St. Robert association. Don't punish the athletes and coaches because they coach or play at a rural school and not in the OC.

So true, so true! The entire Frisco League is swamped with mediocre officials. Mediocre is being kind here. There is just a small handful of quality officials that can be found calling the games in the Frisco League. Don’t get me wrong, I understand that everyone makes mistakes and even the best officials sometimes make a wrong call, but at least the good ones know the rules and are consistent in their approach. Hoopsquad is quite right. Poor officiating does a disservice to the kids that are playing their hearts out. Many players are penalized because of the officials “anticipation” of a foul when in reality it was simply a remarkable defensive play. I appreciate all the officials for taking the time to become an official. Without them, it would be extremely difficult to schedule and play games. But if you’re going to be an official, put forth your best effort. For you officials out there that might be reading this, go back and read your rule book. Understand what the rules are and how to apply them. The side of the backboard is not out of bounds. A carry/palmed ball requires the ball to rest in the palm and doesn’t matter how high the dribble is so long as the hand stays on top of the ball. There is no such thing as over the back. Understand what defensive position is and what constitutes a block, charge or player control foul. Traveling requires the player to have control of the ball; can’t travel if ball is not in player’s control. Just because the ball hits a players hands and falls to the floor and is picked up, doesn’t mean the player dribbled the ball. So the player is still eligible to dribble the ball. Yet most officials will call a double dribble in this instance. A double dribble would require that the player intentionally put the ball to the floor. I could go on and on. But I’ve already beat this dead horse before when I commented about the Frisco League officiating.
 
I have a hard time believing the officials in the st Robert association being assigned those games are missing the above examples
 
I have a hard time believing the officials in the st Robert association being assigned those games are missing the above examples

Then you obviously haven’t watched many Frisco games. No, they don’t miss all those calls every game and not every official from Frisco has missed calls like the ones mentioned. However, every example I gave has occurred THIS season. And the anticipation of a foul which results in a blown whistle has happened numerous times. Yet once the whistle has been blown, there is no putting that sound back inside that whistle. Officials NEVER admit right then it was a blown call. The call stands. However, officials have apologized twice THIS season to the same player for this very thing. However, the game was over on one occasion and on the other occasion the official apologized between quarters on the throw in.
And I apologize, no official has made an “over-the-back” call and reported it that way to the score table. But there are always parents and fans screaming for this very call and many calls have been made because of this. This call is always a “push” and this call SHOULD require actual contact. Simply tipping the ball away from behind or being a good rebounder or tall girl and getting the rebound from the girl in front should not be penalized by the official. Again, contact must occur.
I guess I shouldn’t be so hard on Frisco officials, because I’ve seen all of these calls made in all leagues. But it sure seems like there’s substantially more questionable calls during Frisco League games. But my view is probably skewed because I watch more Frisco games than I do from the other nearby Conferences.
I also want to be clear that there are a few very good officials from the FL. But there’s many more that aren’t so good. And I have no idea how many or which ones belong to the St. Robert Association.
I also agree with Hoopsquad that some of these officials should stick with the junior high games. It’s incumbent upon coaches to be honest in their MSHSAA assessments of these officials. Maybe then the not-so-good ones will be excluded from varsity tournament games. I can promise you there are several that you will NOT see anywhere near the state tournament. Some probably won’t be given the opportunity to officiate districts either. At least I hope not. If your going to be an official, KNOW the rules. Pick the book up occasionally and refresh yourself of the rules of the game. Get out and watch games during the state tournament and witness good officiating. Try and make yourself better.
I know this post comes across as I’m one of those spectators that constantly hound the refs and place blame on them when the game doesn’t go the way I had hoped. But I’m not that person. I never blame the officials for the loss of a game. And I don’t sit around hen pecking about every little call that I disagree with. I’m pretty reserved. But there’s no reason for varsity level officials to not get the call right in the examples that I gave. And if they continue to get these calls wrong, they should NOT be officiating any varsity level tournament and probably not even any varsity level games.
 
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