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NCAA read the writing on the wall

If someone wants to pay a kid for his autograph, I never quite understood how you could forbid that. But it certainly will favor schools in larger markets.
 
I’m not a fan of college athletes getting paid.
I’m even less of a fan of corporations pirating these kids’ names and jersey numbers to profit without sharing the Joy.
Fair enough.
Hopefully we see some positive on the small scale like kids in towns like pittsburg and maryville getting some free stuff/ and meals for being such a huge part of the community. One of the few positives I could see out of it.
 
nice to see some progressive thinking out from out west breaking down some small minded old school barriers. these kids are making these universities millions among the other special interest entities. a tip of the cap to the great state of California.
 
If someone wants to pay a kid for his autograph, I never quite understood how you could forbid that. But it certainly will favor schools in larger markets.

It will favor the Blue Bloods. I don't really oppose in in principal but it is easy to see how boosters could easily exploit this. I just want to go on record that Mississippi St will be on probation for something in this area in about 5-6 years. They are usually ahead of the curve.
 
The slippery slope is I don’t see how you can allow a player to profit from their name, image or likeness and complete in the NCAA but not have an agent and compete.

By what method does a player monetize themselves without some sort of agent?

I think the problem is people want see the players as being exploited. Debatable as a 4-year scholarship is worth a lot of $ but I won’t argue that Tua doesn’t bring more value to Alabama than he gets from a scholarship. I think this solution just opens the door to a bunch of agent shaming the system and a lot of the stuff the NCAA has tried to get out the game for years is going to be encouraged.
 
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You had me right up to “the great state of California”.

Thumbs up anyway...but I don’t have to like it, by gum!

gotcha...but id consider a state in our union thats the 5th largest economy in the world not chopped liver. i guess if it was more like texas or florida the citizens of the fly over states would think differently...idk.
 
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gotcha...but id consider a state in our union thats the 5th largest econony economy in the world not chopped liver. i guess if it was more like texas or florida the citizens of the fly over states would think differently...idk.

Texas will turn blue in the next decade.
Go to a Walmart is Galveston. Not many pale faces.
 
Then there has to be a tough guy a-hole who wants to punish young people.

 
Then there has to be a tough guy a-hole who wants to punish young people.


curious how much that guy has made in government or financial connections he has waiting for him once he leaves office. if the potus was for it he would be tight lipped. major scumball politician
 
I suppose a free college education is not enough anymore?
Maybe these exploited, underpaid athletes need to go down
to the administrative building on the day monthly tuition is due
and let them see how the other half lives....smh..
 
I believe it was around $10K a year...
I don't remember ever writing a check to pay for tuition, books..etc.
I DO REMEMBER, getting my housing check in all hundred dollar bills...

I guess back in the stone age we were playing for free also....
 
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I believe it was around $10K a year...
I don't remember ever writing a check to pay for tuition, books..etc.
I DO REMEMBER, getting my housing check in all hundred dollar bills...

I guess back in the stone age we were playing for free also....

calm down tough guy
 
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Hahaha...I'm totally calm Duck...
Honestly, I'm all for student athletes...
However, I find it fascinating that a free college education
isn't a big deal anymore...

The NCAA has opened up a pandora's box of sh!t on this one...
and it will affect virtually every aspect of "amateur college sports"...

What's Nick Sabin gonna do when one of his top offensive players
decides that he isn't getting paid enough and decides to hold out?
Is college sports ready for this bs?
 
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If this means we don’t have Clemson, Bama, and OSU in the playoff almost every year, I am for it.

If it means more of the same I will eventually stop watching as I did the last two New England Super Bowls. I went on vacation and didn’t watch the super bowl 2 years ago and My life did not fall apart, just like it won’t if some poor college athlete gets a couple of hundred bucks for doing a meet and greet at a used car lot in Lincoln Nebraska.
 
Duck...you and I both know that these big time college programs and
their "student-athletes" aren't concerned about a couple hundred bucks
at a meet and greet at a used car lot in Lincoln, Nebraska.
To that starting QB at Clemson, or the stud WR at OSU, or the
All-SEC Defensive Tackle at Alabama..it all about the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars from merchandising, autographed memorabilia,
and /or being on the cover of sports-themed video games...
When Nike, EA Sports, and Gatorade eventually ruin college football with the NCAA's blessing...Is Clemson, OSU, and or Alabama ready to negotiate
105 different contracts with 105 different agents??
 
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Lets assume an athlete spends 21 hours a week doing things for a sport. (thats a low estimate if you include weights, meetings, etc ) Missouri minimum wage is 8.60 and hour. 21 x 8.6 x 56 = $10113.6
The average athletic scholarship is around $8400 just including D1 and D2 prospects. So just accounting for those numbers an athlete is losing money participating in a sport as opposed to working at McDonald's. Obviously you get more intrinsic value from sports but just from a financial aspect scholarships do not even match minimum wage most of the time.
 
A coach at a slightly above average D-1 school might make $4 million a year + a car and other goodies. How about we make that 1 million and split the rest with every athlete at that school? This mentality that one person should have riches heaped upon them while everyone else works their arses off still just blows my mind.
 
A coach at a slightly above average D-1 school might make $4 million a year + a car and other goodies. How about we make that 1 million and split the rest with every athlete at that school? This mentality that one person should have riches heaped upon them while everyone else works their arses off still just blows my mind.
You could even take that 3 million and apply it the whole university and you could knock tuition down by $150 bucks a kid which seems small but annually thats $600 bucks and if it was in student loan repayment it would come out a little over $2700 over the life of the loan which if it effected every student that way would come out to 67.5 million annually in savings for students
 
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No one should make $5 million for coaching college football. They aren’t founders of the school, brilliant entrepreneurs, curers of cancer or risk takers of any sort. When Dabo is gone from Clemson, I am pretty sure they will still have a team.
 
this isnt rocket science..once college football became a "biz" this was going to happen eventually. football drives the bus more and more. the volleyball parents arent complaining.
 
You could even take that 3 million and apply it the whole university and you could knock tuition down by $150 bucks a kid which seems small but annually thats $600 bucks and if it was in student loan repayment it would come out a little over $2700 over the life of the loan which if it effected every student that way would come out to 67.5 million annually in savings for students
You are really bad at math. Please consider hiring a financial planner.
 
The issue, in my humble opinion is...this will absolutely get out of hand.
The NCAA is not equipped to handle the shit storm they've just created...
Every player, from first string to third string kicker is gonna get
an agent and start demanding maximum compensation regardless of
what "Their Likeness" technically means in agent and or lawyer talk...
 
The issue, in my humble opinion is...this will absolutely get out of hand.
The NCAA is not equipped to handle the shit storm they've just created...
Every player, from first string to third string kicker is gonna get
an agent and start demanding maximum compensation regardless of
what "Their Likeness" technically means in agent and or lawyer talk...
Not if it is just payment for likeness. That is why I was largely against "salary" or any other compensation for playing the sport. As of now, they play the game for the scholarship, they make their money off of endorsements, etc.

I agree that it could pretty easily (and probably will) get out of hand.
 
Lets assume an athlete spends 21 hours a week doing things for a sport. (thats a low estimate if you include weights, meetings, etc ) Missouri minimum wage is 8.60 and hour. 21 x 8.6 x 56 = $10113.6
The average athletic scholarship is around $8400 just including D1 and D2 prospects. So just accounting for those numbers an athlete is losing money participating in a sport as opposed to working at McDonald's. Obviously you get more intrinsic value from sports but just from a financial aspect scholarships do not even match minimum wage most of the time.

Where do you get the scholarship number? I think that would only pay the food and snack bill for most D-1 athletes. You haven't even started on tuition, fees and r&b.
Not familiar with D-2 but it sounds low.
 
Where do you get the scholarship number? I think that would only pay the food and snack bill for most D-1 athletes. You haven't even started on tuition, fees and r&b.
Not familiar with D-2 but it sounds low.

D-1 FBS football players on scholarship get a full ride. All the other levels can be on partial scholarships. If that helps.
 
The issue, in my humble opinion is...this will absolutely get out of hand.
The NCAA is not equipped to handle the shit storm they've just created...
Every player, from first string to third string kicker is gonna get
an agent and start demanding maximum compensation regardless of
what "Their Likeness" technically means in agent and or lawyer talk...
They've never been in control of all of the money that is already flowing to players

A lot of what this is going to do is put some of the dirty money out there in the open
 
gotcha...but id consider a state in our union thats the 5th largest economy in the world not chopped liver. i guess if it was more like texas or florida the citizens of the fly over states would think differently...idk.
Florida was actually a part of this! DeSantis is a proponent of this change. California isn't the only one - a number of big states told the NCAA it had to evolve or they were all going to pass laws that forced the change on them
 
No one should make $5 million for coaching college football. They aren’t founders of the school, brilliant entrepreneurs, curers of cancer or risk takers of any sort. When Dabo is gone from Clemson, I am pretty sure they will still have a team.
The reason these coaches made $7-9 M a year is because the NCAA arbitrarily made it so that players couldn't get their actual share of the $$$ that's floating around. If Kentucky boosters and Nike/Adidas/Under Armour could pay their players, some of that Calipari money would be going to the 18-22 year old kids. Same with Saban at Alabama.

Coaches will still make a lot, but recruiting is going to fundamentally be changed now. Wait until you see the sponsorship deals that Landry's Seafood is going to have for players who want to play in Houson
 
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