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Mccaffrey #4 seed alone..

Do you think any voters would want to change their vote now?

McCaffrey is really, really good. And extremely versatile.
 
It was Iowa. That's like Webb playing the east side of the state.


Yeah he broke the all purpose yards record and all their games were against Iowa. Come on Veer lose your SEC rose colored glasses for one post. Henry who is one conventional and will be likely the 4th to 5th running back taken in the draft won it. We all get it the dudes a beast and a very good running back. But Henry had 359 carries for 2061 yards and a whopping 11 catches for 91 yards. McCaffrey had 337 carries for 2019 yards and 45 receptions for 645 yards plus he returns punts..Best OFFENSIVE weapon I saw all year. Elliot will hands down be the first running back drafted.
 
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Yeah he broke the all purpose yards record and all their games were against Iowa. Come on Veer lose your SEC rose colored glasses for one post. Henry who is one conventional and will be likely the 4th to 5th running back taken in the draft won it. We all get it the dudes a beast and a very good running back. But Henry had 359 carries for 2061 yards and a whopping 11 catches for 91 yards. McCaffrey had 337 carries for 2019 yards and 45 receptions for 645 yards plus he returns punts..Best OFFENSIVE weapon I saw all year. Elliot will hands down be the first running back drafted.
Who played against better defenses?

Mizzou put 450 yards up on BYU. SEC defenses ate them alive.

The End.
 
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Who played against better defenses?

Mizzou put 450 yards up on BYU. SEC defenses ate them alive.

The End.


Your right that sophmore sucks, he wasnt in the SEC cant be any good. Elliot wasnt either, want to bet he goes before your Heisman boy?
THE END..
 
Your right that sophmore sucks, he wasnt in the SEC cant be any good. Elliot wasnt either, want to bet he goes before your Heisman boy?
THE END..
Why do you argue like kenny? I never said he sucked. Heck i don't even remember commenting about Bama's back...maybe you can show me that.

I can tell you the SEC is the absolute best conference in America and there is no doubt. The number one reason is defense. You put stanford in the SEC and they lose 3 or 4 games minimum.
 
Why do you argue like kenny? I never said he sucked. Heck i don't even remember commenting about Bama's back...maybe you can show me that.

I can tell you the SEC is the absolute best conference in America and there is no doubt. The number one reason is defense. You put stanford in the SEC and they lose 3 or 4 games minimum.

The SEC East was not good. You can pretend they were, but they were not.
 
Why do you argue like kenny? I never said he sucked. Heck i don't even remember commenting about Bama's back...maybe you can show me that.

I can tell you the SEC is the absolute best conference in America and there is no doubt. The number one reason is defense. You put stanford in the SEC and they lose 3 or 4 games minimum.


Argue? I guess you should comment to my post and I shouldn't to yours? I said " how did he not when the Heisman" you said " who played against tougher defenses" if you aren't talking aboutHenry who the hell you talking about?
 
Argue? I guess you should comment to my post and I shouldn't to yours? I said " how did he not when the Heisman" you said " who played against tougher defenses" if you aren't talking aboutHenry who the hell you talking about?
arguing is fine. Just don't attribute comments and stances to others when they just aren't true.
Put stanford in the SEC and they're mizzou without the defense. BYU was supposed to beat down Mizzou . Guess what..they don't have SEC speed so Mizzou's offense(and defense) flourished.

8-2 for a reason.
 
The SEC East was not good. You can pretend they were, but they were not.
2-1 in bowls. Undefeated last year in bowls.

Go ahead and list all the other conferences that did that.

And FSU underachieves...NFL talent and stars and got two thumpins to show for it.
 
2-1 in bowls. Undefeated last year in bowls.

Go ahead and list all the other conferences that did that.

And FSU underachieves...NFL talent and stars and got two thumpins to show for it.

Do bowls matter now? Are you really trying to argue that the SEC East was good? Come on man.

FSU underachieved after putting how many players into the NFL? Do you realize how young they were this year? It's going to really suck for you the next few years.
 
Do bowls matter now? Are you really trying to argue that the SEC East was good? Come on man.

FSU underachieved after putting how many players into the NFL? Do you realize how young they were this year? It's going to really suck for you the next few years.
Did I say bowls didn't matter?
Mizzou had over half of two deep freshman and sophomores. Might be a REALLY long couple years for you.

SEC>*
South Carolina (worst team in SEC) beat ACC division champ UNC.

Game.
Set
Match
 
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arguing is fine. Just don't attribute comments and stances to others when they just aren't true.
Put stanford in the SEC and they're mizzou without the defense. BYU was supposed to beat down Mizzou . Guess what..they don't have SEC speed so Mizzou's offense(and defense) flourished.

8-2 for a reason.


What are you talking about? I copied your post. What isn't true? You asked who played against tougher defenses MY POST, I talk only about McCaffrey you bring up BAMA because Henry is who won it. If you weren't talking about him as I asked who were you talking about? So nowhere do I quote your comments incorrectly I COPIED YOUR POST. There is no mistaking what you meant Henry's D > McCaffreys D. Rushing receiving kick returner who cares who played against tougher defenses? My point was McCaffrey did everything.
 
Did I say bowls didn't matter?
Mizzou had over half of two deep freshman and sophomores. Might be a REALLY long couple years for you.

SEC>*
South Carolina (worst team in SEC) beat ACC division champ UNC.

Game.
Set
Match

Yes Mizzou looked really talented in their 5-7 season against a bad division. FSUs defense shutout the SEC Leasts best team.

Game
Set
Match
 
2-1 in bowls. Undefeated last year in bowls.

Go ahead and list all the other conferences that did that.

Not exactly the same but PAC12 North is 6-2 in bowls over the past 2 years which includes the Oregon debacle this year or it would have been 7-1. SEC East is 7-1 over last 2 years.
 
Kenny was talkin about all the great NFL talent FSU has sent the last couple years.

All that talent and getting thumped in bowl games? STARS!!

All of that talent and a national championship to show for it. Mizzou gets beat worse in the regular season than FSU did the last two years in bowl games.

You lose this many impact players, it's pretty hard to sustain, unless you are Bama. You really need to educate yourself.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...as-so-loaded-it-had-nfl-quality-players-in-at
 
BUT they get all those STARS !!! every year. Why can't they just reload?

They also don't have 5-7 seasons or lose to Indiana or Vanderbilt. Consistently going 10-2, 11-1, playing in the conference championship, and having a legit yearly shot at a national championship is what all those STARS gets them.

10 wins is considered a disappointing year at FSU, obviously Jimbo is doing something right.
 
The same reason Bama doesn't win a Natty with having a #1 recruiting class every year.

It's like hitting yourself with a 9lb hammer over and over, discussing this with Bobby.
 
Besides, if you're talking about the talent sent to the NFL in the last two years from FSU, you would need to look at the FSU teams from 2 & 3 years ago, not this years team. We have yet to see the talent this years team will send to the NFL.

If you look at what those players did last year and the year previous, yeah they were pretty good.
 
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Besides, if you're talking about the talent sent to the NFL in the last two years from FSU, you would need to look at the FSU teams from 2 & 3 years ago, not this years team. We have yet to see the talent this years team will send to the NFL.

If you look at what those players did last year and the year previous, yeah they were pretty good.
Wouldnt great recruiting classes preclude results like they had against oregon and houston . Im fairly sure those teams dont get stars like fsu.
 
In ’09 Alabama had the No. 2 class and in ’08 it had the No. 3 recruiting class. Oregon brought in four 5-star studs from 2008 to 2014 while Alabama snagged a “measly” 27 5-star athletes from high school.

With the top-paid coaches in the nation and best athletes nationwide, Alabama should never lose a single game. That is my expectation and I’m not even a big Tide fan; however, Alabama finds a way to lose at least one game each year. How does that happen?


Funniest thing is, there are elite athletes everywhere lining up to sign with Alabama to be a back-up and ultimately underachieve the team’s potential. How sad!


Then I look at Oregon, who signs a single 5-star blue-chip occasionally and yet consistently overachieves.


This is a few lines in a post on FISHDUCK.COM
 
Could Mizzou beat Iowa this year? Or would Iowa playing Mizzou be like playing the east side of the state?

It would have been close for 3 quarters. 21-6 final. I enjoyed watching Iowa but Mizzou's defense was plenty good enough to keep them in a game with Iowa.
 
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