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[LHSTiger81]

that 2013 team wasnt quite as loaded as 2015 and 2017. But thats one thing I wont sit here and argue. its PATHETIC that we didnt win in 2017. That team was so much more talented than everyone in Class 2. Like mud bowl vs Lamar or not that was sad. Lamar had no business

no business? Yes, LN was loaded with talent, as all the D1 offers reflected, but that game was a battle and Lamar came out on top. There had to be some talent on Lamar's side of the ball in order for that outcome. So, in that sense, you use the term "talent" but perhaps "potential" would be a better term. No disrespect to those kids who played on that LN team. The one's who ended up getting D1 scholly's deserved them.

 

[Bleeding Red and Black]

that 2013 team wasnt quite as loaded as 2015 and 2017. But thats one thing I wont sit here and argue. its PATHETIC that we didnt win in 2017. That team was so much more talented than everyone in Class 2. Like mud bowl vs Lamar or not that was sad. Lamar had no business

Couldn’t be at that 2017 game, had to listen to it instead and it sucked! With high school kids, in the mud and rain, you never know what will happen. I didn’t have a dog in the fight, haven’t in several years.

 

[Bleeding Red and Black]

Lamar lost in the semifinals. You’re a pretty shitty fan. Smh

Only kinda shitty!! Notice I still remember though the state record 7 straight STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS!

 

[FBisLife12]

Couldn’t be at that 2017 game, had to listen to it instead and it sucked! With high school kids, in the mud and rain, you never know what will happen. I didn’t have a dog in the fight, haven’t in several years.

Lamar earned the win. The sloppy field negated LN’s speed and Lamar made fewer mistakes. The difference was one missed tackle and the decision to try to kick an extra point into the wind, to tie, instead of going for 2, to win. It was a great game.

 

[BPcompete]

Couldn’t be at that 2017 game, had to listen to it instead and it sucked! With high school kids, in the mud and rain, you never know what will happen. I didn’t have a dog in the fight, haven’t in several years.

The Game is on Youtube.

 

[BPcompete]

no business? Yes, LN was loaded with talent, as all the D1 offers reflected, but that game was a battle and Lamar came out on top. There had to be some talent on Lamar's side of the ball in order for that outcome. So, in that sense, you use the term "talent" but perhaps "potential" would be a better term. No disrespect to those kids who played on that LN team. The one's who ended up getting D1 scholly's deserved them.

NOOOOOOOO business. None. That LN team had 15 or so D1 guys on it. Many others D2. 3 thousand yard rushers. And over 150 offers across the team and Im not exaggerating any part of this.

If you put a team with these things in the hands of a more competent coach they’d win going away. Lamar had Lucas and a few other guys but its no way any team under Class 6 should’ve been touching that team.

 

[LHSTiger81]

NOOOOOOOO business. None. That LN team had 15 or so D1 guys on it. Many others D2. 3 thousand yard rushers. And over 150 offers across the team and Im not exaggerating any part of this.

If you put a team with these things in the hands of a more competent coach they’d win going away. Lamar had Lucas and a few other guys but its no way any team under Class 6 should’ve been touching that team.

could've, should've,,,,, didn't - both teams had to play in that weather. Oh, we were all aware of all the offers... That's the magic of High School football,,, shit happens.

 

[LHSTiger81]

NOOOOOOOO business. None. That LN team had 15 or so D1 guys on it. Many others D2. 3 thousand yard rushers. And over 150 offers across the team and Im not exaggerating any part of this.

If you put a team with these things in the hands of a more competent coach they’d win going away. Lamar had Lucas and a few other guys but its no way any team under Class 6 should’ve been touching that team.

It must have looked like the hill billies invaded with all the camo on the Lamar sideline at that game..

 

[bullitpdq68]

NOOOOOOOO business. None. That LN team had 15 or so D1 guys on it. Many others D2. 3 thousand yard rushers. And over 150 offers across the team and Im not exaggerating any part of this.

If you put a team with these things in the hands of a more competent coach they’d win going away. Lamar had Lucas and a few other guys but its no way any team under Class 6 should’ve been touching that team.

Exactly, lots of talent squander by a coach that is probable more qualified to coach youth than high school. I have to ask why are these kids picking these schools with such horrible coaching? If I was them and had that much talent I would move to to a better football school?

 

[Keyboard_QB]

Lamar earned the win. The sloppy field negated LN’s speed and Lamar made fewer mistakes. The difference was one missed tackle and the decision to try to kick an extra point into the wind, to tie, instead of going for 2, to win. It was a great game.

Was there. It didn't exactly go down like that. Lamar's speed especially on defense was also negated by the conditions. Injuries to key offensive producers that left them sidelined, also hindered Lamar. There was little if any wind, or my cheap disposable parka would have been in Illinois, and that "decision" to kick it was early in the fourth quarter, not at the end of the game. I still think it was the right one, both teams struggled all game to make any kind of yardage. The likelihood of either team being successful on a 2 pt conversion is not very high. Neither team made many, if any mistakes. Penalties were few and far between. Lamar made one more big play that was the difference.

 

[Keyboard_QB]

NOOOOOOOO business. None. That LN team had 15 or so D1 guys on it. Many others D2. 3 thousand yard rushers. And over 150 offers across the team and Im not exaggerating any part of this.

If you put a team with these things in the hands of a more competent coach they’d win going away. Lamar had Lucas and a few other guys but its no way any team under Class 6 should’ve been touching that team.

You guys seem to totally miss the point. Football, like no other sport, is a TEAM game. Every position matters, and those individuals in those positions can in no way do enough on their own, regardless of their talent. The whole is way way more than the sum of its parts. The best TEAM is the one with the highest score at the end of the game, or the one hoisting the trophy after Thanksgiving.

Also there were way less than 15 D1 guys on that LN team, but us hillbillies are used to the city folks over-exaggerations. Prove me wrong.

From what I can tell Coach Reed is a great man, great coach, and truly cares about his kids. Kudos to him for what he has done.

 

[BPcompete]

Exactly, lots of talent squander by a coach that is probable more qualified to coach youth than high school. I have to ask why are these kids picking these schools with such horrible coaching? If I was them and had that much talent I would move to to a better football school?

WONT get an argument from me. the Lamar peeps think this is an insult to them. it may be but Im not meaning to. Its about 15-20 coaches in Missouri that if I give them that roster its no way they arent winning a State Championship. Better "recruiter" than coach. Like I was already skeptical but that 2017 team was ridiculous. No way any good coach doesnt win with that team

 

[LHSTiger81]

What's that old saying about x's and o's vs Johnny's and Joe's?

 

[BPcompete]

You guys seem to totally miss the point. Football, like no other sport, is a TEAM game. Every position matters, and those individuals in those positions can in no way do enough on their own, regardless of their talent. The whole is way way more than the sum of its parts. The best TEAM is the one with the highest score at the end of the game, or the one hoisting the trophy after Thanksgiving.

Also there were way less than 15 D1 guys on that LN team, but us hillbillies are used to the city folks over-exaggerations. Prove me wrong.

From what I can tell Coach Reed is a great man, great coach, and truly cares about his kids. Kudos to him for what he has done.

Great! Still no competent coach loses with that team, sorry.

Also I think we're all adults and have played football so we have no issue grasping the concept of "Team". But football is also a sport were if you're more talent you shouldnt lose unless an exceptional player who can overcome the talent gap (Lucas was great but LOL no) or there is a massive gap in coaching/discipline (under the same umbrella) and scheme. Thats what Im questioning

 

[Keyboard_QB]

Then you weren’t watching CBC win Class 6, Vianney win Class 5, MICDS in the Class 4 Championships, or Trinity vs Ritter in the Class 3 State Championship Game last year. The last I heard, Lamar was owned by Cassville for the conference title then got overpowered by some team that’d never won State before.

You can tune in to ESPN this September and watch two more high powered St. Louis private schools, too.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/hig...dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=dlvr

If being "owned" is getting beat by a field goal after time expired then I guess we use different dictionaries. The same is true for your use of "overpowered", but if that means losing by one score in a tight game, I guess I stand corrected.

10 straight years of state semi-final football, which also includes 7 rings, is a pretty good stat to compare. Whatcha got? Oh yeah 3 semifinals and some district championships.

 

[Keyboard_QB]

Oh Really? Because a 8 to 6 score I dont think would be considered "knocking the crap" out of anything. Also that game was BEFORE last year so you in fact did hear of the school before last year.


LAST YEAR Lamar was busy getting smacked in the mouth and out the playoffs. So I understand why last year may be a little cloudly for you.

I think he was referring to the bewilderment of the players on the LN team, not the score. It was very apparent not long into the game, they hadn't been hit like that very often. Battle of a game, and very fun to watch. It could have gone either way right up to the end.

Oh, and it was 7-6. We know how to block in the sticks, we made our kick.

Oh and another point....I am pretty sure Lamar made it just as far as LN last year?

 

[bullitpdq68]

You guys seem to totally miss the point. Football, like no other sport, is a TEAM game. Every position matters, and those individuals in those positions can in no way do enough on their own, regardless of their talent. The whole is way way more than the sum of its parts. The best TEAM is the one with the highest score at the end of the game, or the one hoisting the trophy after Thanksgiving.

Also there were way less than 15 D1 guys on that LN team, but us hillbillies are used to the city folks over-exaggerations. Prove me wrong.

From what I can tell Coach Reed is a great man, great coach, and truly cares about his kids. Kudos to him for what he has done.

You know anybody can care a lot about the kids, the game, the community, and they might know a lot about football and talk a good game, but that doesn't make them a good coach, just like not knowing football doesn't make you a bad man? I had a few coaches in my day I really respected as a man, but they were just so so as a coach. So not saying he is not a great man...

 

[Team Tiger]

I think there is one other element that is rarely talked about and only seems to exist in a hand full of programs in the state. That is getting 50+ kids, 10+ coaches, and 100+ parents to all buy into an all in situation. Kids have to be devoted to strength and conditioning year around, parents planning vacation around the summer football program and make sure their kids are there, coaches opening the weight room at 4am in the summer so kids can get in to lift and run before work, coaches spending endless hours year around watching film and game planning for next season. Several communities have a couple of the pieces, some have none, and few have all. LN has been knocked out by two of those few communities the last two years. I don't think it is as easy as saying a good coach could walk in and instantly win a state Championship. If coach Bailey walked in and did his thing would all those D1 athletes still be around when the season starts? Would their parents make sure they are at practice? Would they be in shape and ready to go when they get to practice? The answer may be yes to all those questions but they are all factors. Just my 2 cents.

 

[FBisLife12]

Was there. It didn't exactly go down like that. Lamar's speed especially on defense was also negated by the conditions. Injuries to key offensive producers that left them sidelined, also hindered Lamar. There was little if any wind, or my cheap disposable parka would have been in Illinois, and that "decision" to kick it was early in the fourth quarter, not at the end of the game. I still think it was the right one, both teams struggled all game to make any kind of yardage. The likelihood of either team being successful on a 2 pt conversion is not very high. Neither team made many, if any mistakes. Penalties were few and far between. Lamar made one more big play that was the difference.

Our recollections of the game aren’t different. I said “attempt to kick into the wind” ... not “the wind was why LN lost”. Lamar earned the win.

 

[FBisLife12]

If being "owned" is getting beat by a field goal after time expired then I guess we use different dictionaries. The same is true for your use of "overpowered", but if that means losing by one score in a tight game, I guess I stand corrected.

10 straight years of state semi-final football, which also includes 7 rings, is a pretty good stat to compare. Whatcha got? Oh yeah 3 semifinals and some district championships.

Read the comment I was replying to, if you want context for why my statement was worded the way it was. Lamar won’t get disrespectful statements from me, unless I’m responding to disrespectful comments in-turn. No one disputes the validity or respectability of 7 consecutive championships. It’s the sour grape shots at schools whose kids have earned scholarship offers (but didn’t win championships) that will earn a clapback.

 

[FBisLife12]

I think there is one other element that is rarely talked about and only seems to exist in a hand full of programs in the state. That is getting 50+ kids, 10+ coaches, and 100+ parents to all buy into an all in situation. Kids have to be devoted to strength and conditioning year around, parents planning vacation around the summer football program and make sure their kids are there, coaches opening the weight room at 4am in the summer so kids can get in to lift and run before work, coaches spending endless hours year around watching film and game planning for next season. Several communities have a couple of the pieces, some have none, and few have all. LN has been knocked out by two of those few communities the last two years. I don't think it is as easy as saying a good coach could walk in and instantly win a state Championship. If coach Bailey walked in and did his thing would all those D1 athletes still be around when the season starts? Would their parents make sure they are at practice? Would they be in shape and ready to go when they get to practice? The answer may be yes to all those questions but they are all factors. Just my 2 cents.

Lamar is dominant because of the culture they’ve built. It’s indisputable that they win because of it. In my mind, it’s more valuable than even the consecutive championships. There’s no school in Missouri that doesn’t envy it.

 

[bueno_Tuco]

Read the comment I was replying to, if you want context for why my statement was worded the way it was. Lamar won’t get disrespectful statements from me, unless I’m responding to disrespectful comments in-turn. No one disputes the validity or respectability of 7 consecutive championships. It’s the sour grape shots at schools whose kids have earned scholarship offers (but didn’t win championships) that will earn a clapback.

Since when is getting a scholarship offer any

Then you weren’t watching CBC win Class 6, Vianney win Class 5, MICDS in the Class 4 Championships, or Trinity vs Ritter in the Class 3 State Championship Game last year. The last I heard, Lamar was owned by Cassville for the conference title then got overpowered by some team that’d never won State before.

You can tune in to ESPN this September and watch two more high powered St. Louis private schools, too.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/hig...dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=dlvr

i saw all of those games,,,,haven’t missed the state championships in decades. Not overly impressed with any of them and Trinity /Ritter looked more like a prison riot than a football game. I would be embarrassed to be associated with either team

 

[FBisLife12]

Well honestly we grow most of our own food.

Last time I saw one of those high powered St Louis private schools With all of the elite D1 football players the boys from up the road in Lamar were knocking the crap out of them lol

Since when is getting a scholarship offer any

i saw all of those games,,,,haven’t missed the state championships in decades. Not overly impressed with any of them and Trinity /Ritter looked more like a prison riot than a football game. I would be embarrassed to be associated with either team

If you saw all those games, then the last time you “saw one of those high powered St Louis private schools With all of the elite D1 football players“ wasn’t 2017.

I don’t know what whether or not you’re impressed has to do with anything other than how you feel. You AREN’T associated with any of those teams, so you don’t have to worry about it. Your feelings didn’t affect the outcome of the games anymore than they affect whether or not college coaches decide to offer the kids scholarships.

 

[bueno_Tuco]

If you saw all those games, then the last time you “saw one of those high powered St Louis private schools With all of the elite D1 football players“ wasn’t 2017.

I don’t know what whether or not you’re impressed has to do with anything other than how you feel. You AREN’T associated with any of those teams, so you don’t have to worry about it. Your feelings didn’t affect the outcome of the games anymore than they affect whether or not college coaches decide to offer the kids scholarships.

Didn’t see any elite players out there.

What players from last years championship games are at Alabama, LSU, Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, Ohio State playing football this fall???

 

[FBisLife12]

Didn’t see any elite players out there.

What players from last years championship games are at Alabama, LSU, Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, Ohio State playing football this fall???

You’re the one that used the phrase “those high powered St Louis private schools With all of the elite D1 football players”. I still don’t see what point you’re trying to make. Likely because YOU don’t know, either. Which is why you keep moving the goalposts in your replies. I’m sure we’ll get to unpack more layers in future posts.

If you’d like, though, you can watch Jameson Williams (Ritter 2019), Cam Brown (CBC 2018), and Kam Babb (CBC 2018) at Ohio State ... Ronnie Perkins (LN 2018) at Oklahoma ... and Kyren Williams (Vianney 2018) at Norte Dame. You can go to Rivals and cruise thru the other FBS programs 2018 and 2019 kids signed.

 

[Bleeding Red and Black]

The Game is on Youtube.

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Thanks Man! Having to stay with my mom tonight as she’s had surgery and was going to have to miss Yellowstone! My night’s looking a little better now!!

 

[Cards1968]

Thanks Man! Having to stay with my mom tonight as she’s had surgery and was going to have to miss Yellowstone! My night’s looking a little better now!!

Fun show.

 

[BPcompete]

Thanks Man! Having to stay with my mom tonight as she’s had surgery and was going to have to miss Yellowstone! My night’s looking a little better now!!

The game is like two undefeated cocky teams who refuse to switch it up lol. No penalties no passes just 2 hours of teams who averaged 10 ypc all season avg 2 this game. Coaches egos at its finest neither switches up

 

[shoot90draw]

Calling all my fellow Doc Guys!! This thread needs some serious Doc Guy intervention. Stat!!

 

[BoosterBosko]

Calling all my fellow Doc Guys!! This thread needs some serious Doc Guy intervention. Stat!!

Here, here!! And all these posters complain about us! HA! They sound like a roost of squawking hens!

 

[NorthWestBleachers]

If my memory serves ... with the Lamar / Lutheran North game in the COLD, cold rain .... the kid who made the play to block that kick attempt was a younger kid not yet known to make big plays. The audience watching from home all said "WHO was that?!?!?!" Gotta love, love, love high school football.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Here, here!! And all these posters complain about us! HA! They sound like a roost of squawking hens!

Last night a a few of us booster club members were working down in the concession cleaning it and getting stuff ready for football season, and as I was power washing I thought to myself... I wonder if old Bosko ever had to do this sort of thing.

 

[BoosterBosko]

Last night a a few of us booster club members were working down in the concession cleaning it and getting stuff ready for football season, and as I was power washing I thought to myself... I wonder if old Bosko ever had to do this sort of thing.

Oh yes. When I first became involved with the Booster Club, I was down in the weeds. Doing all the heavy lifting. Once being elected president, I would make the occasional appearance on the front lines like that. Mostly for political reasons or the photo op. You know what I mean?

 

[LHSTiger81]

Last night a a few of us booster club members were working down in the concession cleaning it and getting stuff ready for football season, and as I was power washing I thought to myself... I wonder if old Bosko ever had to do this sort of thing.

Those Monett hot dogs are hard to beat.

 

[BoosterBosko]

Those Monett hot dogs are hard to beat.

Ive never been, but people on here seem to rant and rave about the Willard funnel cakes.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Those Monett hot dogs are hard to beat.

Yes we just got a bunch in. I told them I think we need to fire up the grill and test them just to make sure they are still the best in the Big 8!! I usually order me a case for the house.

 

[BoosterBosko]

Yes we just got a bunch in. I told them I think we need to fire up the grill and test them just to make sure they are still the best in the Big 8!! I usually order me a case for the house.

Ah I see! A little misuse of Booster Club funds. Hey, no judgement from me.

 

[Keyboard_QB]

Just curious what kind of hot dogs we are talking about? I consider myself an amateur connoisseur of fine charcuterie. Lamar started using Nathan's this past year, and they were a big upgrade. They also serve what many consider top shelf funnel cakes and soft pretzels as well.

 

[shoot90draw]

Just curious what kind of hot dogs we are talking about? I consider myself an amateur connoisseur of fine charcuterie. Lamar started using Nathan's this past year, and they were a big upgrade. They also serve what many consider top shelf funnel cakes and soft pretzels as well.

Easy there. Funnel cake talk on this board isnt taken lightly. Willard has been the number one here for many years. How long has Lamar been serving funnel cakes? Do they add anything to their batter? Any toppings offered? These are questions of the utmost importance!

 

[Cards1968]

Easy there. Funnel cake talk on this board isnt taken lightly. Willard has been the number one here for many years. How long has Lamar been serving funnel cakes? Do they add anything to their batter? Any toppings offered? These are questions of the utmost importance!

Willard just Lamared Lamar.